What changes would you like to see in 4th job skills?

Great discussion, but I still see it as a thread whining about how things are unless it actually had some purpose, i.e., taking some of these ideas and emailing them to Nexon. Surprisingly companies do read emails (even Nexon!), and so it wouldn't be a wasted thread if that was its original purpose.

So we can't discuss things just for the heck of it? There would be no point in hypothetical scenarios then.

Some of these ideas are ludicrous though. I especially laugh at all of the people who want ultimates removed or nerfed with a cooldown/damage reduction. First off, how many of you rely on an ultimate user to train a lot faster? Second, how many of you, regardless of if you train with an ultimate user or not, use 2x? The same friends I discussed in my first post, the late 19x people on Khaini, don't bother complaining about ultimates, etc., but adapt to what they're given and use them to their advantage. Now, by 19x, are they asking for 4x coupons or and overall increase in EXP of monsters? Hell yea. The fact that people, even with ultimates, STILL WANT an increase in EXP tells me that removing or nerfing ultimates would just be extremely stupid. Seriously, if you're a person who wants the most EXP/hr you can get, yet wants ultimates removed, you shouldn't complain for an increase in EXP.

Either it's not the same people, or those people want justice to be done to the game. Personally, I think the "I won't train unless I have 4x" attitude is ridiculous, but everything else I'm relatively okay with.

P.S.: If ultimates caused an oh-so-bad strain on computers, then all of the All-Magician/FP/IL/Bishop runs that have occurred in the last year shouldn't have worked. The first successful All-ArchMage run in Khaini, as an example though, had 20 people using ultimates throughout the entire run, and the only dc was one person as they were coming into the altar, before ultimates were used.

It's the caching of the ultimates images that cause issues to my computer. It's (almost) smooth sailing if I can get past that. I'm fairly sure this is also the same problem with other people. Aside from that, the only issue I can see is that the extreme spammage of everything would be too processor intensive, such as when you drop a bazillion mesos in GPQ stage 3 or in one of the christmas tree maps (I mean a LOT of stuff; ultimates alone most likely won't do this, and I did test this on a really old computer).