Digital Mafia - TOWN WINS

If he wanted to get people to talk, he would have kept his vote on Meta, because Meta had yet to talk (and saying that they're handicapped is interesting but doesn't add much.) He even outright stated that Meta had been shifty from her past games; coupled with the fact that Meta wasn't talking this early this game either would have been quite a solid reason to keep his vote on her. Chaotic, on the other hand, merely hasn't spoken. He was an active participant last round. I'm more curious as to why MasPan valued getting Chaotic to talk rather than convince everyone else that Meta was the way to go. That said, the votes have been retracted, so it doesn't matter as much.

That's suffice to say that I have yet to understand the value of the 'raise the stakes' theory this early in the day. People could very well be sleeping, or busy and otherwise unable to respond. If they're seen posting elsewhere on the forum, that might be a indicator that they're deliberately keeping quiet but it's as pedantic as hunting who is viewing the thread and who is viewing in invisible mode (didn't actually know you could do that but okay, TIL); we shouldn't feel obligated to police the rest of the forum for this game.

The point was that Shidoshi basically said, "Only one vote won't ever get someone to talk because it doesn't mean anything." He still went after Meta after CJ had spoken. At no point did he say he was no longer going to vote for Meta. I call up this post where he renewed his vote for Meta after CJ had spoken. That's not to say he's not mafia, but he did nothing suspicious in my opinion.

(I reckon there should be a rule for this, but it's pretty pedantic.)

If we create a rule for that, we care far too much about the meta-game instead of the game. Like how we're jumping on people for how they acted last game, which in reality has no relevance on this game even if they have a tendency to do something. For example, last game I brought up Corn simply because he was acting how he normally does and the game prior to that, he was scum. That had no relevance on the next game and in the end I was wasting my time because of it. We need to pay attention to how people act (or don't act) in relevance to this game, not some forum option or last game, or even 20 games ago.

Thanks for the advice. It sounds pretty cruel but killing people (and cheating) is pretty cruel too.

Since apparently giving people the benefit of the doubt can no longer be trusted to work, [Vote] Shidoshi;

I'm not really sure why you thought I said you're not allowed to give people benefit of the doubt. It's just really weird when you go, "I think this person is scummy...but I'm not going to actually do anything about it until they've had time to prepare their defense." You should vote for people. You should keep anyone you think is suspicious on their toes, because you never know who is mafia and who is not. Just because you voted for Shidoshi doesn't mean you're certain they're mafia.

Please explain why raising the stakes this early is a good thing. The only excuse I can think of is that votes towards the end of the day should be the final straw and whoever you vote for is the person you want lynched, but that's still very late in the day. Days are 48 hours; even giving the 'last portion of the day' 12 hours still makes this tactic much too early to employ.

If you call someone out but don't vote for them, then they ignore you, chances are everyone will forget you ever cared about them. The topics change quickly, and the only thing that matters is a vote. You're not really raising the stakes. If you called for a lynch of that person, then yeah you'd be raising the stakes...but a single vote for them doesn't raise the stakes, unless you accompany it with a, "This person is scum, we need to lynch them."

I thought a lot of the people who were making games were opposed to putting information in names? Or maybe xBTAx wasn't part of that mob.

I believe Shidoshi said that they wouldn't make the names into a clear definition of mafia vs town. In that particular situation, my belief was First Name and Last Names sharing the same starting letter might guarantee town, and they dismissed that. That doesn't dismiss the possibility of the name itself implying what their power does.

If there's literally no purpose in the name, then why does anyone care about them?