Do You Care WHO You Marry on MS?

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Normal is a person or a group's preconceived notion of what is to be expected of someone. Existence isn't an act. You don't choose to exist. The differences between real life and the realm of anonymity are consequences and fear of having to face those consequences. The world can't be compared to the internet because everyone involved in the world isn't there intentionally, whereas everything you do online is your own decision, right down to even being on the internet in the first place. You control what you experience and can manipulate many things to work to your desire without encountering any real danger to your wellbeing. There are some risks, but they are nothing compared to those that exist in real life.

Based on logic, using your post, that would mean that people in real life do not try to hide their undesirable aspects in many ways. Why then, do people spend so much money on make up? To do their hair when getting out of bed, to dress as they want to represent themselves, to make their rooms, their actions, and their speech pointed in a specific point of view?

People manipulate others in real life. It's merely less do-able than online because it's easier to hide certain aspects, such as appearance, online.

Also, your definition of normal is skewed. If everyone fit your expectations, then you'd be living in a perfect world.

Pretty much. I mean, not exactly that there will be a punishment, but just the chance of there being one. That being reduced as much as it is online causes people to behave in completely different ways.

Completely different ways? As I said, why would someone go through the effort to act in a "completely different way"? To act not normal? To "not fit [your] perceptions of them?"

If the person that does it is stupid, what does it say about the person that gets fooled by it?

So don't get fooled by it.

Getting enjoyment out of harassing people online isn't much worse than getting enjoyment out of having people respect or care about you in an online video game.

How is harassment comparable to having someone to talk to in a nice way? They're in fact, almost polar opposites.

All games are a waste of time. It's the worst thing to do if you want to do anything productive.

Then why do you play?

That's simply not true. What you type doesn't make you who you are. You only show what you like about your personality online.

And in real life, what you say and do doesn't make you what you are either because you'd only show what you like about your personality in real life? Who WOULD like to show their negative aspects?

You can see a person's true colors through their facial expressions or through a candid reaction they have. Having a keyboard in front of you to relay how you feel allows for the message to be skewed. The people on facebook are only consistent with what they have to be. The website is set up for social networking, so it's different than a videogame environment of course. People still lie and cheat on facebook. Photos are taken at flattering angles. Comments are edited or deleted in accordance to what a person wants others to think of them.

If comments are edited and deleted, why don't the mods here on SouthPerry do it? Also, why don't people just burst out crying in real life, or express their true feelings to their bosses or their teachers, showing their negative aspects. Again, all people try to skew other's perceptions about them, it happens in both real life and online.

Many romances start as "friendships." I'm almost old. In a few more years I'll be an adult. I'm not ugly. The chances are very low, but yes, I would want to be friends with similar people. The problem is that there is no means of them actually proving that they are decent friends in a videogame. I've had enough experience with "friends" in real life running away and leaving me hanging at the first sign of trouble, and to think that someone who can quit the game at any time would be a loyal friend would be absolutely absurd.

I can see where you're speaking from because I've had similar experiences in my childhood as well. That however, doesn't prevent me from actually interacting with others. It doesn't matter whether or not you prove whether friends are decent. I don't care whether or not someone's loyal.

I am a liar, and I doubt anyone that plays Maple Story has gone their entire career without lying.

I'm one too. Aren't we all? However, although we all are liars, some people lie less often, some try not to lie at all.

The most successful people in the world are all great liars. The bold is true. I do differentiate between people that have good or bad intentions, but there are some people I like that I know are horrible people that I keep buddied regardless, simply because of how hilarious they are and what they can accomplish by lying.

I have trouble seeing where you're getting these statements. "The most successful people in the world are all liars...?
If you know they lie, why do you even talk to them? This question is one for real life, and not just directed at people you only know online.

All that I have ever used the internet for is entertainment and education. Everything related to Maple Story would fall in the entertainment category. It doesn't bother me that everyone lies to get what they want as long as I know that that is what they are doing and I'm not the one being tricked.

What else would you use the internet for? If "everyone" were lying, then you'd be tricked inevitably.

Yes, I was there when you were discussing it on buddy list. I don't think I said much more other than I'd rather marry a good friend rather than some random. Only reason I would get married though is for APQ. I probably mentioned that too.

Yes you did.

As for you questioning me saying that I do care, that is so stupid. You havn't even made it clear your definition of "caring" and that is going to vary from person to person. So, caring is agreeing with your 3 points that you made?

No. It's not about agreeing. You see, I'm commenting about whether or not someone cares, but that's not the true reason. The true reason of this thread is to see WHY you care, and the poll was merely to see the percentage of the population who do care. Statistical values are important in determining this because later when this thread dies off, I'll analyze the thread by counting the number of people who care only because of money, for friendship, for chat, ect, and make a breakdown of it. However, I have to include the "does not care" portion as that should be part of the pie chart. So so far, about 75% of the people care and of those 75% who care, they care about ___.

I'm not asking for people to agree with me, but I'm appalled at the % of the people who are in it merely for the apples. A vast majority of the 75% who do care are in it purely for profit and that bothers me. Thus, all the questioning of why they're concerned about it. Then people like findings start posting things about liars and online interactions with others which I find questionable in nature.

All I see this thread is, is you trying to make us all agree with you...

As for what you should have told your friends, just "I don't agree with marrying for just APQ" would have done the job just fine rather than making a fuss

When questioning in manners like this, I don't want just my friends opinions because that would not be very representative of the population. I want to know the opinions of other people as well. Merely basing it off my friends, (as I said, people choose similar people to be friends), I would probably just be producing some very skewed statistic.

I think there's something you're forgetting here, Harrison; You dont HAVE to be married. It's not like your only choices are:

1. Marry a girl character who's actually played by a guy
2. Marry some random stranger who I have no idea who they are
3. Marry a friend that might divorce me when they find a REAL online relationship

There's also this choice:

4. Just dont get married in game.

That's why I'm not married. I have option 4. However, getting married and not getting married are not really options in this poll because I'm asking about the attitude towards MS marriage, not whether or not someone wants to be married. If I were asking number 4, then I would have titled my thread that way.

I personally chose 4 as it's just the simplest one. Am I perhaps losing out on a consistent income with apples? Perhaps in fact most likely, but Im fine with that; Im able to come up with mesos through other sources and Ive never been overly lacking in mesos, I dont need to get married to "stay afloat", so to say.

We make our money in similar ways, such as area bossing, whereas while you track three bosses, I only track one or two at a time, and I do it sporadically while you do it regularly. I wouldn't say I'm missing out on the consistent income, because it wasn't there to start with. Missing out means that an event is supposed to happen but you chose not to attend. Therefore, you merely just didn't invest in this form of apple merchanting.

That being said, in return, I dont have to worry about some "girl" ending up being a guy, I dont have to worry about someone <maybe> divorcing me when they find a "real" relationship and I can keep my conscience clean in regards to "marrying a random".

Keep conscience clean? :f6:
How's a Maple Marriage affect your conscience?

If you clean out all the other logistics and strip the issue down to it's basics, there are two reasons most people get married:

1. For the money you make through APQ
2. For the symbolic "relationship" it represents
3. (In KasuHitomi's case... it's Khoi right?)cause I can and it was free

Which I will make a pie chart out of when this thread dies off. I'll divide the 77% by your item one and two, and possibly a three for both. Your item three is merely the "No" option which at the moment is at 23%. And marriage isn't... free.

If you're doing it for 1, which it seems many people are, it <technically> doesnt matter who you marry, granted they dont divorce you (in which marrying a mule would be perfect and maybe even better than marrying a friend/random because you can APQ twice and make even more money!). The issue isnt who you're marrying, it's more if they'll divorce you afterwards for whatever reason. Who it is, whether guy or girl, friend or random shouldnt matter other than the "potential divorce" factor.

I really should have worded my thread more clearly, as I said to Heidi:

I guess the problem with my poll is that I worded it wrong. I should have made a poll saying what you would marry:
1) Homo relations?
2) Mules?
3) Random people?
4) Close Friends?
5) Older?
6) Younger?
And allow multiple choice.

because then I can further break down item 1 on your list.

If it's for 2, then who you matter does indeed matter because you're doing it for what it stands for, not for the APQ. Sure APQs might be a nice bonus, but ultimately, you'd probably have done it regardless of if APQ was released or not. Chances are, you'd probably WANT to be divorced if it was to happen.

Yes, while although I was looking, there is a sparing number of people who actually choose to marry for this. That's why I was appalled at the general attitude of the people on MS.

As for the whole "it's online, it's not real" thing, I see "online" as an extension of your actual personality; How you are online is how you <really> are when you know you can get away with it with little consequence. Though it's possible to be an ass both in a game and in real life, it's not very often you see a person who's an ass in game and super nice in real life and the ones that do fit this category usually turn out "not very nice" in real life either.

Thank you. That's what I was trying to say.

That being said, I dont think online relationships should be looked upon with scorn, mainly because they CAN happen and Ive often seen online relationships that work better than real life ones. Really, the determining factor shouldnt be whether it's online or not, but rather how seriously it's taken and why people are doing it. Sure, online relationships are harder to maintain and keep up because you cant really do very much with it outside of the game, but I know many that do work. Just because this is a "game" and it's "online", that doesnt mean it's not real because the people you meet are definitely real and like yourself, they have feelings and emotions too.

It would appear the general public disagrees with this statement. A lot of people over on the Sleepywood thread think treat online interactions as a joke as well.

Pps. Harrison, werent you married at one point or another? I seem to remember your character was married when I met it, lol.

Nope. I never married (heck when did I ever have more than $25 of NX because I keep only 1.5 at most, the rest invested in scrolls.) and I don't intend to. However, assuming I did intend to, I would need the three conditions to be met.