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Lim Goon is done with maple.
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Alloy Wrote:If you hate your job, you have two options:

1. Complain about it, and that's it.
2. Complain about it and fight for something you really want.

The only case #1 isn't hipocritical is when there's no other option. Lim Goon had that option for a loooong time.



1. He paid them. He hates the gap between the payers and the non payers. Therefore he is supporting something he hates by giving them money to keep doing it. Wording is just a way to try to get off with it. You can choose whatever word you want, but he did help towards what he hates. And forgive me if I don't fully comprehend those big words on the wikipedia example, english is not my first language.

2. A village throws wood at a small fire, the fire gets huge. Nobody to blame. Not even the farmer with the truck full of logs. Sounds reasonable.

3. Don't complain. You are dissatisfied, but you're not complaining yet. Hypocritical? Doubt it. Complain and quit i.e. washing your hands off Maple. Hypocritical? Not really.

So what if he had that choice for a long time? A choice comes to you when you have to make a decision, which in turn comes when you encounter a situation. It is unwise to assume that he faced that situation all along.

I don't quite care what he did or did not do. The point is that it is not fair to call a person hypocritical if he is on one end of the spectrum and he says that the system is polarised. That's it, and that's it. He has no obligations to compress the spectrum or bring himself down. Did he cause the spectrum to become polarised by his actions? I don't think so, because everyone is climbing, and there will always be polarisation in play in this game (and in life too). Some people climb faster, some people climb slower. If his actions of climbing cause him to become (part of) the cause of the polarisation, then it is absolutely unfair to call him a hypocrite when all he's doing is the same as what everyone else is doing.

Very simple. All Lim Goon is saying is that he strongly dislikes the game for its shortcomings, and decides to leave it to do something better, and that the game needs to change to improve the polarisation. The key thing is that he left when he first said those words. He didn't say those words, and kept on playing.

I don't know, and I don't care, if he has reflected on the Maple situation previously or not, whether publicly or personally. But based on his words alone, and the knowledge that he used whatever ways to be at the top (or amongst the top), he cannot be called a hypocrite because it is not his actions, but rather the system, that is the cause of the disparity. The disparity is an outcome - he's lamenting at the outcome. He went through the process that everyone went through and the methods that everyone is open to. Why is he called a hypocrite for using everything that's available, if perhaps to some extreme result?

tl;dr Too many assumptions, not enough logic.

Hadriel
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Lim Goon is done with maple. - by Imitazion - 2013-04-13, 06:27 PM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by Pink Bean - 2013-04-13, 06:27 PM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by Dark Zero - 2013-04-13, 06:29 PM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by ShadeCaro - 2013-04-13, 06:40 PM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by Chilly - 2013-04-13, 06:44 PM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by Nion - 2013-04-13, 06:46 PM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by Justin - 2013-04-13, 06:51 PM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by Razmos - 2013-04-13, 06:53 PM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by Dark Link - 2013-04-13, 06:54 PM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by hadriel - 2013-04-13, 06:55 PM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by TheBlackMage - 2013-04-13, 06:57 PM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by Polantaris - 2013-04-13, 07:42 PM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by Mazz - 2013-04-13, 08:15 PM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by Kubi - 2013-04-13, 08:19 PM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by Jamesie - 2013-04-13, 08:21 PM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by SaptaZapta - 2013-04-13, 08:32 PM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by Proxied - 2013-04-13, 08:33 PM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by Justin - 2013-04-13, 08:33 PM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by Razmos - 2013-04-13, 08:38 PM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by Spadow - 2013-04-13, 08:40 PM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by Arrol - 2013-04-13, 08:42 PM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by TheBlackMage - 2013-04-13, 08:46 PM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by Razmos - 2013-04-13, 08:47 PM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by Christian - 2013-04-13, 08:57 PM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by Polantaris - 2013-04-13, 09:18 PM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by FallenMemory - 2013-04-13, 10:12 PM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by byakugan - 2013-04-13, 10:22 PM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by Endgame - 2013-04-14, 12:53 AM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by JoeTang - 2013-04-14, 01:45 AM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by Arrol - 2013-04-14, 02:13 AM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by Curtiss - 2013-04-14, 02:24 AM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by CarrionCrow - 2013-04-14, 03:42 AM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by Fiel - 2013-04-14, 03:50 AM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by ShinkuDragon - 2013-04-14, 03:55 AM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by Curtiss - 2013-04-14, 03:56 AM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by Jared - 2013-04-14, 04:34 AM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by CarrionCrow - 2013-04-14, 05:56 AM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by Imitazion - 2013-04-14, 06:10 AM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by Ouchiess - 2013-04-14, 09:41 AM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by Raul - 2013-04-14, 11:09 AM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by LoveVictim - 2013-04-14, 12:37 PM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by Abysseon - 2013-04-14, 12:47 PM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by Curtiss - 2013-04-14, 12:52 PM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by KhainiWest - 2013-04-14, 12:55 PM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by valhala556 - 2013-04-14, 10:33 PM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by zantgx - 2013-04-14, 11:01 PM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by MorbidMagus - 2013-04-14, 11:28 PM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by OrionTempest - 2013-04-19, 07:20 AM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by byakugan - 2013-04-19, 06:57 PM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by SaptaZapta - 2013-04-19, 07:10 PM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by Jared - 2013-04-19, 07:12 PM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by Jamesie - 2013-04-19, 08:06 PM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by Jared - 2013-04-19, 08:33 PM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by Proxied - 2013-04-19, 10:22 PM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by MountLag - 2013-04-19, 11:27 PM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by hadriel - 2013-04-20, 02:28 AM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by Stereo - 2013-04-21, 04:30 PM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by Alloy - 2013-04-21, 05:00 PM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by JoeTang - 2013-04-21, 05:32 PM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by MountLag - 2013-04-22, 12:18 AM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by Jared - 2013-04-22, 12:47 AM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by CarrionCrow - 2013-04-22, 02:04 AM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by Jared - 2013-04-22, 02:08 AM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by MountLag - 2013-04-22, 02:54 AM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by CarrionCrow - 2013-04-22, 03:14 AM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by Alloy - 2013-04-22, 05:17 AM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by hadriel - 2013-04-22, 05:33 AM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by Curtiss - 2013-04-22, 05:40 AM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by Alloy - 2013-04-22, 07:01 AM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by Curtiss - 2013-04-22, 07:14 AM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by hadriel - 2013-04-22, 08:36 AM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by Alloy - 2013-04-22, 08:45 AM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by KhainiWest - 2013-04-22, 08:53 AM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by Curtiss - 2013-04-22, 08:55 AM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by hadriel - 2013-04-22, 08:57 AM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by Curtiss - 2013-04-22, 09:06 AM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by IImaplers - 2013-04-22, 09:45 AM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by Curtiss - 2013-04-22, 09:51 AM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by IImaplers - 2013-04-22, 10:13 AM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by Curtiss - 2013-04-22, 10:19 AM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by IImaplers - 2013-04-22, 10:42 AM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by Alloy - 2013-04-22, 11:00 AM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by MountLag - 2013-04-22, 11:23 AM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by Curtiss - 2013-04-22, 11:29 AM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by Soph - 2013-04-22, 12:31 PM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by Alloy - 2013-04-22, 06:04 PM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by Jared - 2013-04-23, 12:38 AM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by Alloy - 2013-04-23, 06:18 AM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by SaptaZapta - 2013-04-23, 06:33 AM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by Alloy - 2013-04-23, 07:48 AM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by AcidAutumn - 2013-04-24, 07:10 AM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by Alloy - 2013-04-24, 10:52 AM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by Maigun - 2013-04-27, 02:14 AM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by Jigsaw - 2013-04-30, 09:22 AM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by Mazz - 2013-04-30, 09:27 AM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by Jigsaw - 2013-04-30, 09:30 AM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by Mazz - 2013-04-30, 09:35 AM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by Curtiss - 2013-04-30, 09:43 AM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by Jigsaw - 2013-04-30, 09:46 AM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by Curtiss - 2013-04-30, 09:51 AM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by Curtiss - 2013-05-01, 11:48 AM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by 2Paqs - 2013-05-03, 08:20 AM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by AcidAutumn - 2013-05-03, 08:31 AM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by IImaplers - 2013-05-03, 08:41 AM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by ¬Rob - 2013-05-03, 08:50 AM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by AcidAutumn - 2013-05-03, 10:32 AM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by IImaplers - 2013-05-03, 11:17 AM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by AcidAutumn - 2013-05-03, 11:44 AM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by IImaplers - 2013-05-03, 12:36 PM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by AcidAutumn - 2013-05-03, 12:51 PM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by KhainiWest - 2013-05-03, 12:52 PM
Lim Goon is done with maple. - by G-Meister - 2013-05-04, 04:16 PM

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