Derosis Wrote:I think you guys are taking this much too seriously. You can say whatever, but people are seriously over-reacting. The internet's been (slightly) censored, it's not like it's anything new. TV, Phone, etc. has been censored for years. The internet is still new you guys. Things will happen; whether we want it to or not.
Typical American mindset that facilitates bills like this from passing because they think nothing they can do will prevent it. Standing idle and just watching to see how something unfolds is going to be the eventual downfall of our rights.
ImagineAll Wrote:Typical American mindset that facilitates bills like this from passing because they think nothing they can do will prevent it. Standing idle and just watching to see how something unfolds is going to be the eventual downfall of our rights.
If it were only affecting the US we would have the right shove a gigantic pole up our asses (though I would prefer that didn't happen, figuratively or otherwise...), but this isn't just us that will be getting shafted. I would rather not get bombed by angry *insert any other nationality in the world*, thank you very much. We already have the richest people in the Middle East pissed as hell at us, why would we do something that would make EVERYONE hate us...well, even more.
It is my honest belief that, if this passes and they actually follow through with it, it will incite a third world war, except this time, it will be everyone versus us, and WHEN we lose, we will be a third world country...then when the rest are done with us, they will just throw the scraps at China and they will be happy to place us under their heel for a few centuries. Of course, the other option is, we go in nukes blazing and everyone kills everyone. Yes, that is correct, I am theorizing that our government enforcing this one law could cause the end of humanity.
Oh hey, 2012 is a few days away, now. ehehehehehe.
ImagineAll Wrote:Typical American mindset that facilitates bills like this from passing because they think nothing they can do will prevent it. Standing idle and just watching to see how something unfolds is going to be the eventual downfall of our rights.
Beat me to it.
Additionally, there's a lot of push to actively get people to call their representatives and do more than just rage online here. There's even a video here, in this thread, going out the way to educate and encourage actively doing so.
Thank you for contacting me regarding the protection of intellectual property on the Internet. I appreciate hearing your views on this matter and welcome the opportunity to respond.
U.S. law enforcement agencies may protect against violations of intellectual property rights when perpetrators are acting within the United States. However, the Internet provides a way for businesses to expand across borders, and poses a challenge for the enforcement of intellectual property rights when violators are acting outside the U.S. Currently, U.S. authorities cannot reach foreign websites offering pirated or counterfeit goods to U.S. citizens.
In response to these concerns, Senator Patrick J. Leahy (D-VT) introduced the PROTECT IP Act (S. 968) on May 12, 2011. This legislation would authorize the Justice Department or an intellectual property rights owner harmed by an Internet site "dedicated to infringing activities" to pursue a cause of action against either the registrant of an infringing domain name or an owner or operator of one. Moreover, the bill allows the Justice Department to pursue such actions against registrants, owners, or operators of foreign domain names as well. The bill has been placed on the Senate Legislative Calendar for consideration. Representative Lamar Smith (R-TX) introduced the Stop Online Piracy Act (H.R. 3261) in the House of Representatives on October 26, 2011. This legislation would also authorize an action by the Justice Department against registrants, owners, or operators of foreign infringing sites. Though both bills would increase the criminal penalties for those that sell counterfeit goods of certain categories, like counterfeit medicine, the House legislation includes military equipment as a special category.
Promoting and protecting innovation is critical to U.S. businesses remaining competitive in the global economy. Many industries, from pharmaceutical companies to recording studios, depend on intellectual property protections. These industries contribute greatly to the U.S. economy and serve as significant job-creators. At the same time, some have expressed concern that this legislation goes too far, and would lead to government overreach resulting in the chilling of free speech online and the stifling of innovation. As a result of these concerns, Senator Ron Wyden (D-OR) and Representative Darrell Issa (R-CA) have released an alternative proposal, called the Online Protection and Enforcement of Digital Trade (OPEN) Act, which would authorize the International Trade Commission to investigate, and if necessary, take action against foreign websites involved in the advertising or selling of counterfeit products. This proposal is based on the premise that the International Trade Commission would be better suited to investigate such issues because of its current investigative role in determining whether certain imports into the U.S. violate U.S. property rights. Rest assured, should this legislation come to the House floor vote a vote, I will be sure to keep your thoughts in mind.
Once again, thank you for taking the time to get in touch with me. Your interest and input are valued and I hope to hear from you in the future regarding other matters of importance. I encourage you to visit my website and sign-up for my monthly e-newsletter at http://reichert.house.gov to learn more about other issues impacting the 8th Congressional District and our nation. You can also follow my work online and receive frequent updates on legislation being considered in Congress by visiting me on Twitter (http://www.twitter.com/davereichert ) and Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/repdavereichert ).
Sincerely,
David G. Reichert
Member of Congress
I wouldn't be b'itching the fucking government about something I don't already know well enough. F'ucker.
Kunagisa Wrote:>Implying they don't have secretaries doing that for them and even know how to work a modern cellphone
Some of them twitter during the hearing. During a few of the voting processes on this very bill, they had to call on a few of the senators more than once and they were like "whoa what, it's my turn?" when they got their attention.
That or they were sleeping.
Some of them were pretty old, I'm not ruling that out.
"I don't know the extent of my decision to pass this bill, but since I don't use the internet anyway cause I'm not a nerd, then I don't need to worry about it! Therefore, this bill has my vote because it protects america!"
Worthyness Wrote:"I don't know the extent of my decision to pass this bill, but since I don't use the internet anyway cause I'm not a nerd, then I don't need to worry about it! Therefore, this bill has my vote because it protects america!"
Thank you for contacting me regarding the protection of intellectual property on the Internet. I appreciate hearing your views on this matter and welcome the opportunity to respond.
U.S. law enforcement agencies may protect against violations of intellectual property rights when perpetrators are acting within the United States. However, the Internet provides a way for businesses to expand across borders, and poses a challenge for the enforcement of intellectual property rights when violators are acting outside the U.S. Currently, U.S. authorities cannot reach foreign websites offering pirated or counterfeit goods to U.S. citizens.
In response to these concerns, Senator Patrick J. Leahy (D-VT) introduced the PROTECT IP Act (S. 968) on May 12, 2011. This legislation would authorize the Justice Department or an intellectual property rights owner harmed by an Internet site "dedicated to infringing activities" to pursue a cause of action against either the registrant of an infringing domain name or an owner or operator of one. Moreover, the bill allows the Justice Department to pursue such actions against registrants, owners, or operators of foreign domain names as well. The bill has been placed on the Senate Legislative Calendar for consideration. Representative Lamar Smith (R-TX) introduced the Stop Online Piracy Act (H.R. 3261) in the House of Representatives on October 26, 2011. This legislation would also authorize an action by the Justice Department against registrants, owners, or operators of foreign infringing sites. Though both bills would increase the criminal penalties for those that sell counterfeit goods of certain categories, like counterfeit medicine, the House legislation includes military equipment as a special category.
Promoting and protecting innovation is critical to U.S. businesses remaining competitive in the global economy. Many industries, from pharmaceutical companies to recording studios, depend on intellectual property protections. These industries contribute greatly to the U.S. economy and serve as significant job-creators. At the same time, some have expressed concern that this legislation goes too far, and would lead to government overreach resulting in the chilling of free speech online and the stifling of innovation. As a result of these concerns, Senator Ron Wyden (D-OR) and Representative Darrell Issa (R-CA) have released an alternative proposal, called the Online Protection and Enforcement of Digital Trade (OPEN) Act, which would authorize the International Trade Commission to investigate, and if necessary, take action against foreign websites involved in the advertising or selling of counterfeit products. This proposal is based on the premise that the International Trade Commission would be better suited to investigate such issues because of its current investigative role in determining whether certain imports into the U.S. violate U.S. property rights. Rest assured, should this legislation come to the House floor vote a vote, I will be sure to keep your thoughts in mind.
Once again, thank you for taking the time to get in touch with me. Your interest and input are valued and I hope to hear from you in the future regarding other matters of importance. I encourage you to visit my website and sign-up for my monthly e-newsletter at http://reichert.house.gov to learn more about other issues impacting the 8th Congressional District and our nation. You can also follow my work online and receive frequent updates on legislation being considered in Congress by visiting me on Twitter (http://www.twitter.com/davereichert ) and Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/repdavereichert ).
Sincerely,
David G. Reichert
Member of Congress
I wouldn't be b'itching the pineappleing government about something I don't already know well enough. F'ucker.
From what I read of that, he's sidestepping the issue.
Luxeraph Wrote:Did he actually said that?
I mean literally.
haha no. well kinda. One of the congressmen in the committee meeting was essentially saying it though. They apparently defined "nerds" as people who can use the internets, so this on congressman, who doesn't know how to internet, basically is supporting the bill because he doesn't know the extent of the internet and pirating an stealing stuff is just wrong.
It was one more of my sarcastic remarks that I tend to write on this forums, but I bet you he isn't the only one who is thinking similarly.
Worthyness Wrote:haha no. well kinda. One of the congressmen in the committee meeting was essentially saying it though. They apparently defined "nerds" as people who can use the internets, so this on congressman, who doesn't know how to internet, basically is supporting the bill because he doesn't know the extent of the internet and pirating an stealing stuff is just wrong.
It was one more of my sarcastic remarks that I tend to write on this forums, but I bet you he isn't the only one who is thinking similarly.
Ok that would make sense, most politicians avoid getting too deep by doing some pretty wording.
Moonlapse Wrote:From what I read of that, he's sidestepping the issue.
He's flat out holding his stance on supporting the bills by refusing to either acknowledge or deny my view on the issue, and instead ignore it altogether.
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