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Elemental Weapons Are Glitched?
#41
Afrobean Wrote:Fiel has been saying all along the client's information for making these work is intact. I'd say it's been disabled in some other way, either intentionally or accidentally. My best guess would indicate it involves some sort of interaction on the serverside and they neglected to install that interaction into the server.

No, the client shows the damage on your screen. Sunrise is correct. The damage applied to the mob is generated by the server and the client together.

The client data in the WZ files is intact, but that means nothing if Maplestory.exe is not programmed to read or interpret the value in the WZ file. If what you're suggesting is the current situation, people wearing the elemental staves and wands would be seeing much higher damage client-side than what is being applied on the server.

In short:

Client calculates
Server calculates and applies
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#42
Fiel Wrote:No, the client shows the damage on your screen. Sunrise is correct. The damage applied to the mob is generated by the server and the client together.

The client data in the WZ files is intact, but that means nothing if Maplestory.exe is not programmed to read or interpret the value in the WZ file. If what you're suggesting is the current situation, people wearing the elemental staves and wands would be seeing much higher damage client-side than what is being applied on the server.

In short:

Client calculates
Server calculates and applies
Then would that mean that the elemental staves/wands actually have the effect, but it doesn't show up in your client?

So if it shows you doing 10K damage, you're actually doing 15?
(Or is the effect just disabled?)
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#43
Fiel Wrote:No, the client shows the damage on your screen. Sunrise is correct. The damage applied to the mob is generated by the server and the client together.

The client data in the WZ files is intact, but that means nothing if Maplestory.exe is not programmed to read or interpret the value in the WZ file. If what you're suggesting is the current situation, people wearing the elemental staves and wands would be seeing much higher damage client-side than what is being applied on the server.

In short:

Client calculates
Server calculates and applies
So basically they're turned off in the client, even though the data is there.

I like the way I thought of it better because it still gives hope that Nexon didn't do this on purpose.
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#44
Harrisonized Wrote:Then would that mean that the elemental staves/wands actually have the effect, but it doesn't show up in your client?

So if it shows you doing 10K damage, you're actually doing 15?
(Or is the effect just disabled?)
No.

The client sends the damage to the server. The server takes the damage and distributes the damage to other players. The server does no processing on the damage. Notice how when you're in a large lag spell, you can attack many times and still see the damage on the monster. The server sends nothing back to the client.

What they're saying is that the values for this are in the data (which means nothing for the server because the server doesn't do these basic calculations) and that the client is ignoring the values. It has nothing to do with the server.

If this is on purpose, which is the general consensus I'm reading, then oh boy. My LUK magician isn't even worth playing. The staves all give terrible matk for their luk requirement and the wands give tons of matk without requiring 1 luk - that's not even counting the lack of an elemental boost.

This is absolutely terrible. I wish Nexon would stop screwing over regular builds.
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#45
I'm not going to try to stir up false hope, but just because a GM says it is so, does not make it so. We all know Nexon is notorious for various mess up, especially in communication. This doesn't just extend to players (In personal experience elsewhere as staff), but to the staff as well. The GM could very well be misinformed, or using a canned reply that they were told to use when those up top are still debating it/unsure/planning to guage the response to this.

On the flip side, it may very well be true. If it is, luk Mages and Arch Mages have pretty much lost all hope at ever comparing well with any other character outside of using an ultimate on a full field of monsters.

I can see reasons for both to be true. On the side of leaving the elemental properties disabled, Afro has mentioned before that it would make every single other magician weapon level 70 and beyond pointless except for Priests/Bishops. Nexon also seems to think that (Arch) Mages need to be weak, and nearly useless, so they may see the elemental boost as overpowering us when 90% of the players who are honest with themselves know that the boost is needed, especially in 4th job, since they can't/won't address the real issues.

Then, for enabling them, well, I'm sure almost all of us have hashed that out already. Come 4th job, there is nothing notable that an Arch Mage can do that a Bishop cannot do, while there is plenty for reverse. I'm not against Bishops having attacks, but with the current state of the game, being an Arch Mage is pointless if you can be a Bishop instead. *Shrug* We could use, and do need, some kind of boost, but Nexon seems determined to keep screwing us. I might as well just get a Crimson Arcanon in time, get myself to about 160 where I'll be endgame, and work on leveling a character that is good for something other than standing in one spot, burning pots, and leveling people past 120.
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#46
Quote:I am sorry for any confusion.

This is as intended, we did not mention that this item will ever have a elemental property. Please do not confuse MapleStory with another server as our items and features will not all be the same.

Thank you and happy Mapling. ^_^

Sincerely,

GM Lallent
Nexon America, Inc.
That quote does not look authentic, (The "^_^" emot is a dead giveaway) and the link which is posted does not load. I call shenanigans.
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#47
Magus Wrote:That quote does not look authentic, (The "^_^" emot is a dead giveaway) and the link which is posted does not load. I call shenanigans.

But

Quote:[SIZE="3"]we did not mention that this item will ever have a elemental property.[/SIZE]
[SIZE="4"]will ever have a elemental property[/SIZE]
[SIZE="5"]have a elemental[/SIZE]
[SIZE="6"]a elemental[/SIZE]

It has a grammatical error. It has to be legit! Those are like Nexon's Offical Signature Seals mang.

I also wondered by the GM called jMS "another server" when it's actually another version.
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