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Magician Casting Speeds - JoeTang - 2008-07-08
Format:
0 Booster / 1~10 Booster / 11+ Booster
In Casts Per Minute
Magician
Spoiler
Bishop![[Image: skill2001004iconmouseovum5.png]](http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/656/skill2001004iconmouseovum5.png)
Energy Bolt - 76 / ![[Image: skill2001005iconmouseovzm4.png]](http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/9633/skill2001005iconmouseovzm4.png)
Magic Claw - 76 / ![[Image: skill2321001iconmouseovbd8.png]](http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/8809/skill2321001iconmouseovbd8.png)
Big Bang (Uncharged) - 76 /
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Arch Mage (Fire/Poison)![[Image: skill2301002iconmouseovdu3.png]](http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/3641/skill2301002iconmouseovdu3.png)
Heal - 100![[Image: skill2301005iconmouseovgi6.png]](http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/1923/skill2301005iconmouseovgi6.png)
Holy Arrow - 76![[Image: skill2311004iconmouseovdf7.png]](http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/7782/skill2311004iconmouseovdf7.png)
Shining Ray - 60![[Image: skill2321007iconmouseovhe1.png]](http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/2220/skill2321007iconmouseovhe1.png)
Angel's Ray - 76![[Image: skill2321008iconmouseovdh0.png]](http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/5363/skill2321008iconmouseovdh0.png)
Genesis - 23
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Arch Mage (Ice/Lightning)![[Image: skill2101004iconmouseovxy9.png]](http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/2726/skill2101004iconmouseovxy9.png)
Fire Arrow - 76 / ![[Image: skill2101005iconmouseovbt6.png]](http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/5/skill2101005iconmouseovbt6.png)
Poison Breath - 76 / ![[Image: skill2111002iconmouseovup9.png]](http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/8027/skill2111002iconmouseovup9.png)
Explosion (Slow (8) Staff) - 32 / ![[Image: skill2111003iconmouseovyy0.png]](http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/2917/skill2111003iconmouseovyy0.png)
Poison Mist - 42 / ![[Image: skill2111006iconmouseovtm4.png]](http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/8989/skill2111006iconmouseovtm4.png)
Element Composition - 68 / ![[Image: skill2121003iconmouseovra1.png]](http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/9065/skill2121003iconmouseovra1.png)
Fire Demon - 76 / ![[Image: skill2121006iconmouseovov5.png]](http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/8466/skill2121006iconmouseovov5.png)
Paralyze - 76 / ![[Image: skill2121007iconmouseovqd0.png]](http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/4482/skill2121007iconmouseovqd0.png)
Meteor Shower - 19 /
Spoiler
![[Image: skill2201004iconmouseovaj0.png]](http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/7329/skill2201004iconmouseovaj0.png)
Cold Beam - 76 / ![[Image: skill2201005iconmouseovde2.png]](http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/4623/skill2201005iconmouseovde2.png)
Thunderbolt - 76 / ![[Image: skill2211002iconmouseovrn6.png]](http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/9128/skill2211002iconmouseovrn6.png)
Ice Strike - 60 / ![[Image: skill2211003iconmouseovjd9.png]](http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/886/skill2211003iconmouseovjd9.png)
Thunder Spear - 46 / ![[Image: skill2211006iconmouseovir3.png]](http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/332/skill2211006iconmouseovir3.png)
Element Composition - 68 / ![[Image: skill2221003iconmouseovor4.png]](http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/3320/skill2221003iconmouseovor4.png)
Ice Demon - 76 / ![[Image: skill2221006iconmouseoveb5.png]](http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/5782/skill2221006iconmouseoveb5.png)
Chain Lightning - 76 / ![[Image: skill2221007iconmouseovfn3.png]](http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/3424/skill2221007iconmouseovfn3.png)
Blizzard - 19 / Special 'thank you' to Lugin for finding me the Evil Wings to do the Explosion tests.
Thanks to SoullessFire for doing the Explosion testing with the Normal (6) Staff.
Thanks to Stereo for some frame-based analysis on Explosion's casting speed.
Missing Information:
Explosion Casting Speed
Fast (5) Staff - Pyogo Mushroom
Fast (5) Wand - Streetlight
Fast (4) Wand - Hinomaru Fan
Supportive Skill Casting Speeds
Magician Casting Speeds - Saver - 2008-07-08
[COLOR="Blue"]Would be nice to mention what each number means.
XX / XX / XX.....are those casts per minute?[/COLOR]
Magician Casting Speeds - doctorx - 2008-07-08
Saver Wrote:[COLOR="Blue"]Would be nice to mention what each number means.
XX / XX / XX.....are those casts per minute?[/COLOR]
I'm assuming they mean casts per minute. Very good guide. Thanks.
Magician Casting Speeds - Harrisonized - 2008-07-08
Copied over from SW? Those explosion numbers still look kinda funny...
Magician Casting Speeds - GW2000 - 2008-07-08
Yeah it would look nicer to show what the numbers mean, just so its less confusing. I like the skill icons. They are pretty.
Magician Casting Speeds - JoeTang - 2008-07-08
I thought it'd be obvious that it was casts per minute. That, and I thought I had it written somewhere already, but I guess I deleted that part.
Explosion is just a funny skill.
Magician Casting Speeds - LoneChaos - 2008-07-09
Weird, I always assumed fire arrow was a lot slower than cold beam
Magician Casting Speeds - gucci - 2008-07-09
I would assume paralyze and CL at 11 booster would be the same? strange that paralyze is 76/80/84 & CL is 76/80/88
Magician Casting Speeds - Hazzy - 2008-07-09
Yes! I love this thread. <3
Might I ask where you got the information? It'd be great to compile a list like this of each job. <3
Magician Casting Speeds - JoshKun - 2008-07-09
buahahahahaha
this finally proves to all my bishop frends that i (an i/l arch mage) DONT cast faster than them EVEN WITH BOOSTER MAXED T_T
nice informative thread~~~
Josh
Magician Casting Speeds - Harrisonized - 2008-07-09
Hazzy Wrote:Yes! I love this thread. <3He got it from Tespia, while it was still open.
Might I ask where you got the information? It'd be great to compile a list like this of each job. <3
Magician Casting Speeds - Secks - 2008-07-18
Thanks a lot man !
Magician Casting Speeds - Cardboardsnail - 2008-07-18
Ooohh. Chain lightning is fast.
Magician Casting Speeds - butterfλi - 2008-07-18
I've done a few tests for chain lightning and I've never gotten a number as high as 88. My numbers ranges around 82-86 casts per minute. So obviously, there's some outside factors here like starting/ending timer, starting/ending the cast animation etc. Maybe you should rename this thread to include "approximate" (not that's I'm saying this thread is bad; I'm just trying to be accurate for the public).
Magician Casting Speeds - Retalion - 2008-07-18
A few things here that stand out...
1. Why is explosion the only one that was tested with different speeded staves?
2. Genesis casts 23 times/minute, 2 more times than Meteor WITH 11 booster... is that actually right or is that another sign that Gene is overpowering the other two skills? >_>
3. If this was done on Tespia, then skill glitching was out, meaning you could test if booster works with bishop skills? I'd be curious to see that, lols.
Overall, a nice, neat organized guide (though I'd say color coding would be easier to see than normal, italics, bold) and even though Im no mage, I found it intersting to look at.
Magician Casting Speeds - butterfλi - 2008-07-18
Retalion Wrote:2. Genesis casts 23 times/minute, 2 more times than Meteor WITH 11 booster... is that actually right or is that another sign that Gene is overpowering the other two skills? >_>
3. If this was done on Tespia, then skill glitching was out, meaning you could test if booster works with bishop skills? I'd be curious to see that, lols.
It's been pointed out for a while by supp3rgirl (in gMS) that gen is the fastest of the 3 ultimates even without booster.
And lol at #3
Magician Casting Speeds - Kevvl - 2008-07-18
Retalion Wrote:A few things here that stand out...
1. Why is explosion the only one that was tested with different speeded staves?
2. Genesis casts 23 times/minute, 2 more times than Meteor WITH 11 booster... is that actually right or is that another sign that Gene is overpowering the other two skills? >_>
1) Funfact: Explosion is the only spell affected by Wand/Saff speeds.
2) Factoring in Elemental Amplification, and using those speeds, the total M-Attack per minute is almost the same =P
Magician Casting Speeds - butterfλi - 2008-07-18
Kevvl Wrote:2) Factoring in Elemental Amplification, and using those speeds, the total M-Attack per minute is almost the same =P
If you're suggesting amp makes meteo/blizz stronger than gen, it's not true. Gen has a high spell base than meteo/blizz.
http://www.southperry.net/forums/showpost.php?p=4&postcount=3
Gen at level 1 is 430 and meteo/blizz is 330. So gen is AS strong and HALF as cheap. Oh and skeles are weak to holy lol.
Magician Casting Speeds - Harrisonized - 2008-07-18
butterfli Wrote:If you're suggesting amp makes meteo/blizz stronger than gen, it's not true. Gen has a high spell base than meteo/blizz.Pulling numbers:
http://www.southperry.net/forums/showpost.php?p=4&postcount=3
Gen at level 1 is 430 and meteo/blizz is 330. So gen is AS strong and HALF as cheap. Oh and skeles are weak to holy lol.
(Lv 1)
330 x 1.35 x 21 = 9355.5 Meteo/Bliz
430 x 23 = 9890 Gen
(Lv 10)
420 x 1.35 x 21 = 11,907 Meteo/Bliz
520 x 23 = 11960 Gen
(Lv 11)
430 x 1.35 x 21 = 12,190.5 Meteo/Bliz
530 x 23 = 12,190 Gen
(Lv 12)
440 x 1.35 x 21 = 12,474 Meteo/Bliz
540 x 23 = 12,420 Gen
(Max)
570 x 1.35 x 21 = 16,159.5 Meteo/Bliz
670 x 23 = 15410 Gen
Sorry, Genesis only wins until Lv 10 in terms of DPS. But then again, DPS for high damage skills can't really be considered unless you're spamming. (And always hitting the same number of targets.)
Maybe when we get pink bean, we can see mages outdamaging bishops on the 5 statues.
To Jackk: Explosion is affected by casting speed. It's a widely known fact that it is the only mage spell affected by this. I wish Nexon made Meteo and Blizzard this way as well. After all, they're both two part skills just like Explosion. D:
Magician Casting Speeds - Russt - 2008-07-18
Then you consider that Meteo/Blizz is only about 5% stronger than Gene and costs 100% more MP.
I think the balancing is a little off, especially since as of now there are too many high end Holy-weak monsters.