Questions and Answers

Questions and Answers
Q: How does DoT work?
A: DoT stands for Damage Over Time. Most of F/Ps' crucial attacks come with DoT accompanying their regular attack. DoT does a set amount of damage (based on your range and based on the skill you're applying DoT with and the skill's level) every second for a set amount of seconds (depending on the skill). DoT of one skill can be combined with DOT of another skill. For example, for me: if I were to attack with Mist and it's DoT every second is about 120k (for me) damage and then attack with Paralyze and it's DoT every second is 70k damage, I would be seeing a combined damage of 190k every second. Quickly add in skills like Poison Breath, Fire Demon, Meteor, Big Bang, and that combined DoT can only get higher and higher! Isn't this an awesome way to attack? And the best thing is that DoT works on bosses too. Not only does DoT have the ability to work on any monster but DoT also ignores all defense of a monster. That means if you can do 300k combined DoT on a snail, you can also do 300k combined DoT on Pink Bean, regardless of the fact that Pink Bean has a lot more defense of regular weapon or magic attacks than the snail (though the snail would probably be dead before any DoT can be applied to it )!

Another good note on DoT - If I attack a monster with Fire Demon and that monster is neutral, my Fire Demon DoT (for instance) would be 30k each second. But if I were to attack a monster Fire Demon and that monster is fire-weak, that DoT would be 45k each second because DoT is also element-based!!!

Q: How does Mist Eruption and its DoT work?
A: Passively, maxed Mist Eruption will raise Mist's DoT from 180% to 240%, a very good thing. Also, in a nutshell, the more different DoT attacks I use on a monster, the more damage I can do with Mist Eruption when exploding the mist and that monster is inside the mist cloud or very close to it.

You can stack up to 5 different DoT attacks to make full use of Mist Eruption. I usually use Mist, Fire Demon, Poison Breath, Big Bang and Paralyze as the setup attacks for Mist Eruption; but Meteor and Flame Gear (if you're a UA) can substitute any of the above.


@Zenarkenstin explained Mist Eruption's effectiveness pretty well here:

Zenarkenstin(of basilmarket) Wrote:The more "poison-like effects" (DoT) you have stacked, the more damage you will do with Eruption. If I just use mist (and it doesn't poison) and Erupt, I do around 50k (times 5 hits = 250k). But if I stack Paralyze, Poison Breath, Fire Demon, Big Bang, Meteor, Mist poisons, THEN Erupt; I'll be hitting 290-300ks (times 5 hits = 1,500k [1.5m])

JoeTang Wrote:Alternating skills is probably the worst idea.

Kalemora Wrote:Seems like everyone's moving their guides here now. Is that what cool kids do? I'm too lazy to do that.

IImaplers Wrote:I simply did it because I like SP more than basil and it'd be more accessible. I think you should move yours too, it's perfect.

Kalemora Wrote:So much effort though. ):

tags should also work here just as well as in basil unless I'm mistaken.

I hope you consider it

DeanNim Wrote:i did fire/poison alternate during my early 70s and found it kind of pointless so i just maxed out explosion to maximize damage.

DeanNim Wrote:But i would rather max out seal now to be honest and leave out explosion.

DeanNim Wrote:I also disagree to why most guide recommends 1 teleport mastery after the job advancement. Explosion is x10 more useful especially in pqs where you need that ability to mob.

IImaplers Wrote:What would it take to get this guide to get stickied? i think it has pretty much everything anyone needs in terms of F/P build options.

Five Second Pose Wrote:We usually just stick them when we notice that it's filling a need and people agree on the core points of it. Not asking also works in your favour.

Eliseo Wrote:Nice guy, but you should change the Hyper guide. Since it seems that ignore defense is now multiplicative, having the %ignore Hypers for skills would help even the most funded, wouldn't it?

valhala556 Wrote:I was thinking of making a f/p guild but got to lazy when it came down to it. Some problems that I have with it though most will pertain to 4th job.
----4th job-----
1) As a f/p I feel the main focus is Dot stacking + mist eruption. With that said your first proity should be getting at least 1 point in all of your 5 Dot. But for some reason 2 your builds dont put any points into Big Bang at the advancement and one waits till lvl 123. Getting them all early also helps with how they control their character and time skills. Plus it adds variety.I think you're absolutely right. I'll change accordingly.

2) You seem to have an emphases on paralyze. Now I know this is a very important skill But again. When you first make a job advancement you want all your 1 point wonders at the begining. And if You didnt know they are skills are massively useful with 1 point. This is mainly for your "Simple Guide" but also for some others as shouldn't put 2 points in a single skill at lvl 100. Will try to cater to this as well.

3)Meteor Shower is not that good of a skill. Its really bad for damage because of its long cast time/cooldown. Idk why you always have it max so early. It should be one of/if not the last skill you max. Look into how it can be used in-game and you'll see what I mean. Maplewarrior should also be last as well. But that is just me. Maxing meteor shower early is good for one thing at least, being able to hit all three bearwolves platforms with high damage. But you're right. The cooldown doesn't make this skill any useful otherwise. I think I'll bump this skill down quite a bit.

4)I agree with [MENTION=535]JoeTang[/MENTION]; that spliting up skills as you level them is bad. If you cant help it then dont worry about it too much but dont focus on it. What it could be is get X skill to 11 then increase Y skill to 19, then max X skill and then max Y skill. Breaking it up every level isnt the best for damage. And its hard to see improvments per level. Think of like pokemon and how it's, in a way, easier to get by training one pokemon as apposed to keeping 6 balanced in level. Agreed. I got a lot of work to do.

5) This one isnt really nessasary but it should be worth noting that having FlameGear helps with bossing. Even though it doesnt effect eruption, I find it easy during bosses to forget that one of my DoT's has expired. and since flamegear only needs to be cased once every 40 seconds. its nice. Though I use it even though its just lvl 2. (19sec) Also recommending Mikhail's stance buff is also extremely helpful for archmages. I think I'll add those points somewhere in the Q&A section.
-----3rd job----
6) Spell booster. I dont know why but you seem to not be fond of it. I feel like speed is important. You only need to get it to like lvl 3/4 (60sec to 80sec duration) before moving on to something else. But it should be done early as it will speed up training. Everyone OHKO's/ near OHKO's at those lvls anyway. Agreed.

7) Since Poison Mist training will be vastly different than what the normal mapler does you should provide a guide on which maps are good for poison misting. Even if the training is inferior it still is fun because its different. And it can kill some boredom as a F/P.If you can provide one, I'll be certain to give you the credit.

8) I remember that having 1 explosion and 20 amp(before revamp) was better than 20 explosion and 1amp. With that said I know 1 explosion and 10 amp> 10explosion and 1 amp as explosion still maxing at 20. Not sure if I understand what you mean. Can you elaborate?
----2nd Job-----
9)Again with the bad splitting of skills at the advancement. You should take one point out breath and put it in mastery. But considering how fast you can go through these levels it doesnt matter too much. Fire Arrow is Ok here for the variation aspect.Will do.

10)You need to have them maxing Teleport sooner. Its only 5 points and at that lvl increase movement speed is better for training than any % upgrades to damaging skills.Will do.

------Hypers------

11)Passive stat are alright but you should put a disclaimer that you should take your character's needs into account. For instance I wont be getting %hp because even though more Hp is awsome. with Magic Guard my Hp:Mp ratio is way off in that it feels like I have too little MP comparied to HP. I.e. for every 1 HP potion I use I Must use 2 MP. Good catch. I'll add a note about ideally keeping the HP:MP ratio at 1:4 (I think that's the ideal ratio for MG unless I am mistaken).

There are some good thinks in here like the skill hypers but there are also somethings you should work on.