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Video gamers have different brains than non-frequent gamers. - >Pineapple - 2011-11-16
Quote:Fourteen-year-olds who were frequent video gamers had more gray matter in the rewards center of the brain than peers who didn't play video games as much -- suggesting that gaming may be correlated to changes in the brain much as addictions are.
European scientists reported the discovery Tuesday in the journal Translational Psychiatry. Psychologist Simone Kuhn of Ghent University in Belgium and colleagues recruited 154 healthy 14-year-olds in Berlin and divided them into two groups. Twenty-four girls and 52 boys were frequent gamers who played at least nine hours of video games each week. Fifty-eight girls and 20 boys were infrequent gamers, who played less than nine hours a week.
Structural magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) showed differences in the test subjects' brains. Frequent gamers had more gray matter in a portion of the brain known as the left ventral striatum, which affects the interplay of emotions and behavior. Previous research identified striatal function as a "core candidate promoting addictive behavior," the authors wrote.
Using functional magnetic resonance imaging (fMRI), the team also observed changes in the kids' brains as they participated in a task that simulated anticipating and receiving a reward. They found that frequent gamers had greater brain activity when they were given feedback that they were losing. This is similar to a response seen in addicted gamblers, the authors noted, who have increased levels of the the brain chemical dopamine in the ventral striatum when they are losing money.
The authors wrote that their study is the first to correlate changes in brain structures with video gaming. They couldn't determine if the frequent gamers' brains grew larger as a result of playing video games or if those kids were attracted to gaming because that part of their brain was enlarged in the first place; scientists will need to measure the effects of video gaming on structures in the brain over time to figure that out.
But either way, discovering the link between brain structure and video games could help researchers understand the role of the brain in addictive behaviors, they wrote.
"If the striatal differences observed in the current study are indeed an effect of gaming, video gaming might post an interesting option to explore structural changes in addiction in future studies in the absence of any neurotoxic substances," they noted.
It's only a possibility, but I have noticed this in a few friends and to some extent- myself.
Video gamers have different brains than non-frequent gamers. - Rob - 2011-11-16
And this changes what? I'll always be the same, no matter how much videogames I play. I don't see where they're going with this. Are they trying to send a message to society saying videogames deform your brain? Or they make you more prone to addictions? ...or that now it is a gateway drug? (yes i said that)
I just fail to see the point of the article entirely.
Video gamers have different brains than non-frequent gamers. - KhainiWest - 2011-11-16
So if you play more video games you become more emotional. Delightful.
Video gamers have different brains than non-frequent gamers. - FenixR - 2011-11-16
Oh hey another dumb study that nobody asked for to justify throwing pomegranate at video games for being "Bad for the childrens" or W/e.
Maybe the people researching this wont use it or dont have the intention of using it that way, but theres always that dipshit who wants to use it for that purpose.
Video gamers have different brains than non-frequent gamers. - DragonsMirth - 2011-11-16
Funny responses, eh?
I see nothing wrong with trying to connect the structural changes of the brain with addiction.
Video gamers have different brains than non-frequent gamers. - Loose - 2011-11-16
Woah, everyone calm the pineapple down.
Quote: They found that frequent gamers had greater brain activity when they were given feedback that they were losing.No wonder I think faster and more coherent and better when I'm in trouble, danger or some serious pomegranate is going to happen. Not just in games, but in real life too.
Video gamers have different brains than non-frequent gamers. - FenixR - 2011-11-16
Im just saying, theres always that dipshit who will try to use it the bad way. My opinion.
Video gamers have different brains than non-frequent gamers. - DrRusty - 2011-11-16
i thought it was obvious that people could get addicted to video games o.O. I feel like people are surprised about it or something?
Video gamers have different brains than non-frequent gamers. - FenixR - 2011-11-16
DrRusty Wrote:i thought it was obvious that people could get addicted to video games o.O. I feel like people are surprised about it or something?
Be happy, now there is (Well there will be according to the article anyway) actual scientific evidence that proves video games causes addiction.
Video gamers have different brains than non-frequent gamers. - DrRusty - 2011-11-17
was it really necessary to do a scientific study including brain scans and a bunch of little 14 year olds? lol. It's like making a scientific study to tell everyone mass consumption of mc donalds foods is bad for your health. Well no pomegranate sherlock. Thanks for wasting money on your study though.
Video gamers have different brains than non-frequent gamers. - Corn - 2011-11-17
Loose Wrote:Woah, everyone calm the pineapple down.
No wonder I think faster and more coherent and better when I'm in trouble, danger or some serious pomegranate is going to happen. Not just in games, but in real life too.
Everyone is obviously insulted. Y'know, this being a Maplestory/video game forum and all.
I was at a loss of words for a couple hours admittedly.
Video gamers have different brains than non-frequent gamers. - Turtally - 2011-11-17
Nice correlation, bro.
Let's wait until they actually figure out which one causes the other. 'Cause right now, it basically sounds like "People who do art are more creative. Derp."
Video gamers have different brains than non-frequent gamers. - Rob - 2011-11-17
Loose Wrote:Woah, everyone calm the pineapple down.
I just find it retarded because later on this will be used in arguments against gaming and this s'hit gets on my nerves. It's been more than 20 years that scientists started doing research on gaming and every single f'ucking study that generalizes like this ends up being a recurrent statement in all the stupidity surrounding the idea that gaming is ''bad''.
Video gamers have different brains than non-frequent gamers. - Luxeraph - 2011-11-17
Rob Wrote:I just find it retarded because later on this will be used in arguments against gaming and this s'hit gets on my nerves. It's been more than 20 years that scientists started doing research on gaming and every single f'ucking study that generalizes like this ends up being a recurrent statement in all the stupidity surrounding the idea that gaming is ''bad''.Nope, at least one or two said that gaming was good for somethings or at least I remember it like that.
Video gamers have different brains than non-frequent gamers. - Five Second Pose - 2011-11-17
Quote:They found that frequent gamers had greater brain activity when they were given feedback that they were losing.
I wonder if pressure from a deadline counts as "losing". Would go a long way to explaining procrastination.
Video gamers have different brains than non-frequent gamers. - DragonsMirth - 2011-11-17
Rob Wrote:I just find it retarded because later on this will be used in arguments against gaming and this s'hit gets on my nerves. It's been more than 20 years that scientists started doing research on gaming and every single f'ucking study that generalizes like this ends up being a recurrent statement in all the stupidity surrounding the idea that gaming is ''bad''.
Calm down.
-> http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/11/111102125355.htm <-
Video gamers have different brains than non-frequent gamers. - raizoo - 2011-11-17
Rob Wrote:I just find it retarded because later on this will be used in arguments against gaming and this s'hit gets on my nerves. It's been more than 20 years that scientists started doing research on gaming and every single f'ucking study that generalizes like this ends up being a recurrent statement in all the stupidity surrounding the idea that gaming is ''bad''.http://health.usnews.com/health-news/family-health/brain-and-behavior/articles/2010/11/15/video-games-not-harmful-to-most-teens-study
http://health.usnews.com/health-news/family-health/brain-and-behavior/articles/2011/05/06/online-gaming-with-real-world-friends-is-healthier-study
http://www.videogamesblogger.com/2010/07/20/study-shows-that-violence-in-games-helps-relieve-stress-depression-hostility.htm
http://www.newscientist.com/blogs/onepercent/2011/03/can-video-games-quell-nightmar.html
Video gamers have different brains than non-frequent gamers. - >Pineapple - 2011-11-17
I hope no one thinks I support something like this looking down at people that play games a lot. I play games probably too much for my own good. My cousin showed this to me and I thought it was interesting. I don't think that playing a lot causes this. I know a lot of people that play hours upon hours a week and they're very good people.
Video gamers have different brains than non-frequent gamers. - Alex123123 - 2011-11-17
Rayquaza2233 Wrote:I wonder if pressure from a deadline counts as "losing". Would go a long way to explaining procrastination.
I think that's different. At least I don't procrastinate because I want to feel pressure and whatever rewarding feeling overcoming the challenge might provide. If that's what you are saying.
I do believe there might be a relation between getting used to video games (+other media) with their "instant rewards" and procrastinating stuff. If I could dive into the media junky cycle, I would. If it weren't for social/"life pomegranate" pressure, I would remain a vegetable. Which describes my attitude towards studies in general. (As much as I would like to deny it).
Also, over defensive people are over defensive. That's a sign.
Video gamers have different brains than non-frequent gamers. - Heidi - 2011-11-17
This irony in the responses to this thread is beyond hilarious. The scientists could be quite interested in doing a study on how gaming addicts react when you tell them they're addicted. The reactions are very similar to if you tell somebody addicted to alcohol that they are addicted to alcohol. Further proof that gaming is a genuine addiction!
I play a bit of Maplestory or Dungeon Fighter Online when I have time, but I have minimal interest and minimal knowledge on all the latest games and don't use Steam. I definitely used to be a gaming addict, but I think I've largely grown out of it. I used to get so upset if something didn't go in my favor in a game, but now I really couldn't care less and don't spend that much time gaming. I also really hate the weird feelings in my head and eyes (although used to be able to ignore them because I was so addicted) when I've been gaming for more than a few hours at a time, and the thought of not getting anything productive done all day. My job, studies, and friends are far more important to me than gaming will ever be. Although I do like hanging out with people on Maplestory for a few hours sometimes, whether that's my guildies (A few people in the revived form of TeamIDB), buddies who still play, or randoms in PQ. It is definitely interesting chatting to various people when PQ'ing.
I think it's fine for people to be gaming for a few hours a day. Anymore though and you possibly have issues. It just makes me sad when I hear a smart person is giving up on university/ college or isn't doing very well in it because they are too addicted to video games, or in a few cases I've heard, that they can't afford to be a student because they have a debt from buying computer equipment and other stuff to feed their gaming addiction. Luckily it seems that most Southperrians aren't that seriously addicted though :-)
(Oh, and software engineering group members that don't show up to meetings when a new game was released the night before..........)