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Revenge - KhainiWest - 2011-09-30

Abused our country's supperior education only to backstab us

BOOM HEADSHOT

CNN Wrote:American-born Muslim cleric Anwar al-Awlaki, who preached terror as the public face of al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, was killed Friday in Yemen, the nation's Defense Ministry said.

A Yemeni government official told CNN that an airstrike hit al-Awlaki's motorcade but gave no details about the operation or who conducted it.

The United States regarded al-Awlaki as a terrorist who posed a major threat to American homeland security. Western intelligence officials believe al-Awlaki was a senior leader of Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP), one of the most active al Qaeda affiliates that has been linked to the attempt to blow up an airliner over Detroit in December 2009 and a cargo plane plot last year.

Al-Awlaki was killed about 8 kilometers (5 miles) from the Yemeni town of Khashef, east of the capital, Sanaa, said Mohammed Basha, a Yemen Embassy spokesman in Washington. He said the operation was launched at 9:55 a.m.

A senior U.S. administration official confirmed al-Awlaki's death. The official spoke on condition of anonymity to CNN because he was not authorized to release the information and did not provide any other information.

Born in Las Cruces, New Mexico, al-Awlaki lived in the United States until the age of seven when his family returned to Yemen. Al-Awlaki returned to the United States in 1991 for college and remained until 2002.

It was during that time that as an imam in California and Virginia, al-Awlaki preached to and interacted with three of the September 11, 2001, hijackers, according to the 9/11 Commission Report. He publicly condemned the attack afterward.

Al-Awlaki spent 18 months in a Yemeni prison from 2006 to 2007 on kidnapping charges, but was released without going to trial. Al-Awlaki claimed that he was imprisoned and held at the request of the United States.

U.S. officials say al-Awlaki -- often described as articulate with a good understanding of the Western mindset -- helped recruit Umar Farouk AbdulMutallab, the Nigerian man known as the underwear bomber who was charged with trying to blow up a transatlantic flight as it landed in Detroit on December 25, 2009.

The militant cleric is also said to have exchanged e-mails with accused Fort Hood shooter Maj. Nidal Hassan, who is accused of killing a dozen fellow soldiers and a civilian in a rampage at the Texas base.

Sajjan Gohel of the Asia Pacific Foundation called al-Awlaki's death significant.

"If you put it into perspective, (Osama) bin Laden's death had global ramifications for the transnational terror movement. Anwar Al-Awlaqi's death will have equal implications for lone-wolf terrorism," Gohel said.

That's because al-Awlaki was articulate and he understood the Western mindset, Gohel said. He knew his way around the internet and was skilled in indoctrinating impressionable youth.

Early this year, a Yemeni court sentenced al-Awlaki in absentia to 10 years in prison for charges of inciting to kill foreigners.

Prosecutors charged al-Awlaki and two others with "forming an armed gang" to target foreign officers and law enforcement in November.

At a U.S. congressional hearing earlier this year, Michael Leiter, director of the National Counterterrorism Center, said, "I actually consider al Qaeda in the Arab Peninsula, with al-Awlaki as a leader within that organization, as probably the most significant threat to the U.S."

According to IntelCenter, which monitors jihadist propaganda, Nasir al-Wuhayshi, who is responsible for expanding AQAP's focus on U.S. attacks, remains in charge of the group and further attempts to conduct attacks are expected.

In support of that goal, al-Awlaki was due to release an article in the next issue of AQAP's Inspire magazine on the justifications for attacking civilians in the West. The group announced the upcoming article -- "Targeting Populations of Countries at War with Muslims" -- this week but did not publish it in its latest edition.

Al-Awlaki narrowly survived a U.S. drone assault in May after he switched vehicles with a fellow jihadi, a senior security official told CNN.

Attorneys for al-Awlaki's father, Dr. Nasser al-Awlaki, tried to persuade U.S. District Court Judge John Bates in Washington to issue an injunction last year preventing the government from the targeted killing of al-Awlaki in Yemen.

But Bates dismissed the case in December, ruling that Nasser al-Awlaki did not have standing to sue.

In a November hearing, lawyers for the U.S. government refused to confirm that the cleric was on a secret "kill list" or that such a list even exists.

Last year, YouTube removed a number of video clips featuring al-Awlaki that it found to be inciting violence.

Rep. Peter King, chairman of the House Committee on Homeland Security, called al-Awlaki's death a "great success" in the fight against al Qaeda.

"For the past several years, al-Awlaki has been more dangerous even than Osama bin Laden had been. The killing of al-Awlaki is a tremendous tribute to President Obama and the men and women of our intelligence community.

"Despite this vital development today, we must remain as vigilant as ever, knowing that there are more Islamic terrorists who will gladly step forward to backfill this dangerous killer."

Al-Awlaki is the latest in a string of losses for al Qaeda.

According to Michael Vickers, the U.S. undersecretary of defense for intelligence, eight of the terror network's 20 key leaders have been eliminated this year. He cited the killing of Osama bin Laden in May, the death of al Qaeda second-in-command Atiya Abdul Rahman in August, and the capture of Younis Mauritani, a senior planner of operations, earlier this month.

Only al Qaeda's current leader, Ayman al-Zawahiri, remains active among those who were the top nine terrorists at the time of the 9/11 attacks against the United States in 2001.

But al Qaeda is far from dead, Vickers noted, and still poses a dangerous threat to the United States.

"It maintains a worldwide strength numbering in the low thousands, it has broadened its reach through affiliate organizations" in general, but in particular he mentioned al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, which he said has been able to increase its operating space in Yemen.



Revenge - JoeTang - 2011-09-30

Karma doesn't sound very American, son.


Revenge - SaptaZapta - 2011-09-30

It's also not Karma.
Karma is like the mysterious hand of fate, which make you get what you deserve from other agencies than those you have wronged (or helped).

If someone exacts revenge, well, that's what you can expect when you make powerful enemies.


Revenge - KhainiWest - 2011-09-30

SaptaZapta Wrote:It's also not Karma.
Karma is like the mysterious hand of fate, which make you get what you deserve from other agencies than those you have wronged (or helped).

If someone exacts revenge, well, that's what you can expect when you make powerful enemies.

...This is true


Revenge - Heffalump - 2011-09-30

Oh goody, kill one enemy, spawn a hundred more.
Proven to be a great strategy by every single fucking conquering army in the history of forever.


Revenge - WillDaSnail - 2011-09-30

DEVGRU (SEAL Team 6) strikes again for another high-value terrorist target? I like this. Good f'ucking riddance they got rid of this guy.


Revenge - KhainiWest - 2011-09-30

Heffalump Wrote:Oh goody, kill one enemy, spawn a hundred more.
Proven to be a great strategy by every single fucking conquering army in the history of forever.

I can tell you don't understand the significance of this but that's okay.


Revenge - ElderTree - 2011-09-30

Heffalump Wrote:Oh goody, kill one enemy, spawn a hundred more.
Proven to be a great strategy by every single fucking conquering army in the history of forever.

Sounds like we came out ahead then. Considering this one guy was probably worth more than 100 others.

Besides, isn't that what spawn camping is for? Rolleyes


Revenge - JoeTang - 2011-09-30

We call it Justice here in America, son.


Revenge - Corn - 2011-09-30

Obama is sure on a roll.


Revenge - Heffalump - 2011-09-30

KhainiWest Wrote:I can tell you don't understand the significance of this but that's okay.

Here's an example:
ST6 kills bin Ladin. Americans celebrate his death. Americans look bloodthirsty, shallow, and like they don't care at all about international agreements. We may have won a national victory, but around the world, we look like fools.
Yes, al-Qaeda may have lost a very valuable asset. But we lose more than we gain. We already have little enough respect around the world. Why lose the little that we still have?


Revenge - Born2BeMild - 2011-09-30

Counter-Terrorists win!

but I feel like it's just part of a cycle.


Revenge - KhainiWest - 2011-09-30

Heffalump Wrote:Here's an example:
ST6 kills bin Ladin. Americans celebrate his death. Americans look bloodthirsty, shallow, and like they don't care at all about international agreements. We may have won a national victory, but around the world, we look like fools.
Yes, al-Qaeda may have lost a very valuable asset. But we lose more than we gain. We already have little enough respect around the world. Why lose the little that we still have?

The only people pissed were china, and thats because they are a close ally with Pakistan, nothing's happened because?


Revenge - Alloy - 2011-10-09

KhainiWest Wrote:The only people pissed were china, and thats because they are a close ally with Pakistan, nothing's happened because?

Imagine those terrorists got Obama. They'd kill him, and celebrate his death. They'd look bloodthirsty, shallow, and like they don't care at all about international agreements.

Consider that.


Revenge - KhainiWest - 2011-10-09

Alloy Wrote:Imagine those terrorists got Obama. They'd kill him, and celebrate his death. They'd look bloodthirsty, shallow, and like they don't care at all about international agreements.

Consider that.

That's a bad example because all Obama is doing is retaliating at this point. Bush made it a personal vendetta, and frankly I wouldn't care if bush had gotten killed. Also, the fact that this terrorist organization has been f`ucking with us for, I would say, 20-30 years? I think pity is out of the question. Especially someone who became a citizen just to benefit off our education then betray the country later.

And international agreements? Ha, don't make me laugh, Pakistan was harboring a fugitive and two times let him know when we found him. Who do you think looked worse? Hint, don't see anyone but Pakistan pissed.


Revenge - Alloy - 2011-10-09

KhainiWest Wrote:That's a bad example because all Obama is doing is retaliating at this point. Bush made it a personal vendetta, and frankly I wouldn't care if bush had gotten killed. Also, the fact that this terrorist organization has been f`ucking with us for, I would say, 20-30 years? I think pity is out of the question. Especially someone who became a citizen just to benefit off our education then betray the country later.

And international agreements? Ha, don't make me laugh, Pakistan was harboring a fugitive and two times let him know when we found him. Who do you think looked worse? Hint, don't see anyone but Pakistan pissed.

I'm just saying how things are. The point of the terrorists is all the explotation USA has made all those years. I'm not being on their side, just saying both sides have their stuff.


Revenge - Flonne - 2011-10-09

Heffalump Wrote:Here's an example:
ST6 kills bin Ladin. Americans celebrate his death. Americans look bloodthirsty, shallow, and like they don't care at all about international agreements. We may have won a national victory, but around the world, we look like fools.
Yes, al-Qaeda may have lost a very valuable asset. But we lose more than we gain. We already have little enough respect around the world. Why lose the little that we still have?
At this point, much of the rest of the world, particularly the EU, have already proven themselves to be amply useless in the grand scheme of things, so really, who cares what they think. The worst they will do is pass some sanction that everyone else in the world will ignore, just like all of their other decisions.


Revenge - ImagineAll - 2011-10-10

Heffalump Wrote:Here's an example:
ST6 kills bin Ladin. Americans celebrate his death. Americans look bloodthirsty, shallow, and like they don't care at all about international agreements. We may have won a national victory, but around the world, we look like fools.
Yes, al-Qaeda may have lost a very valuable asset. But we lose more than we gain. We already have little enough respect around the world. Why lose the little that we still have?
America Wrote:Who needs respect when we have nukes?



Revenge - KhainiWest - 2011-10-10


...I think that's more applicable to the Korea's lol
./related to your quote
Have you guys ever heard of the monkeysphere? It's essentially the measure of people within your life that has significance to you, such as your dog dieing having more of impact than Michael Jackson on you. Osama wasn't seen as a person in a lot of peoples brain because he isolated himself, and when he came out it was to kill people outside of his monkeysphere. In fact I would argue America looked more foolish that some guy that lived in the mountains could hide under our advanced technology. Oh wait he kind of didn't, one of our so called allies was essentially giving him the royal treatment.

Not to mention we may have avoided yet another 9/11 catastrophe as we didn't know what they were targeting. To be quite frank, the only reason were still in this war is because of the mindsets that heffalump present, the last world wars were not won worrying about the enemy, it was who hit the hardest and who could still hit the hardest. There are 90 year old Nazi's still awaiting another trial, who were just prison guards, how is that any different than what osama did directly america, twice?