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Spam Panic or Power Strike? - Hazzy - 2008-07-01
To keep things short and sweet, which is most effective at a boss? Spamming Panic or Power Strike? I'm sure one is better than the other one up to a certain point, be that ten hits or ten thousand. D:
Has anyone done the math to find out? ._.
Spam Panic or Power Strike? - Mira - 2008-07-01
From personal experce, I find that using Panic once you have 5 orbs does more damage over time. I may be wrong, but it seems like that to me. ^^
Edit: It depends on what DMG panic does, also. It can do like 19k or 33k, so it really can vary, I guess.
Spam Panic or Power Strike? - PieM4ster - 2008-07-01
Going the Panic route from my experience is better unless you have Brandish. Does slightly higher DPS.
Spam Panic or Power Strike? - solid_ice8 - 2008-07-02
yeah i agree too, panic is the way to go until you get brandish @ 120+
Spam Panic or Power Strike? - wobbufet - 2008-07-02
In my opinion it's best to use panic at bosses until you get Advanced Combo. Once you have AC it's just not worth it to lose that extra brandish damage for a panic.
Spam Panic or Power Strike? - Hazzy - 2008-07-02
I know most peope prefer Panic, but as anyone sat down and crunched the numbers? o.0
Spam Panic or Power Strike? - Cardboardsnail - 2008-07-02
Spam panic definitely
But not with 1 orb...that'll be kinda weak
Spam Panic or Power Strike? - wobbufet - 2008-07-02
Hazzy Wrote:I know most peope prefer Panic, but as anyone sat down and crunched the numbers? o.0
Why would power strike be stronger? It doesn't really make sense to me to be honest :confused:
Spam Panic or Power Strike? - Hazzy - 2008-07-02
wobbufet Wrote:Why would power strike be stronger? It doesn't really make sense to me to be honest :confused:
Let's look at the average damage per fix hits. If you spam Panic, it's:
0 orb
1 orb
2 orb
3 orb
4 orb
Panic
I'm not completely sure how to calculate the damage done, but let's call the average of those value "P" *Panic Average. xP*
Now if we find the average of Spamming Power Strike, it would look like this:
0 orb
1 orb
2 orb
3 orb
4 orb
5 orb
Let's say the average for that is "N" *No-pani Average*
The Average damage Panic-Spamming does will not change, it will remain at the value of P. However, after each Power Strike, P will approach the Damage Boost of 5 Orbs + Power Strike, just like if you average the numbers 1-5, then keep adding 5 to it and re-calculating the average hit.
Average of 1~5 is 3.
Average of 1~5+5 is 3.3
Average of 1~5+5+5 is 3.57, and so forth. The same would apply to the damage, and it should pass-up Panic Spamming at some point. That point might be at Seven or Eight hits, or it might be at a thousand. :/
How2calc. Damage pls. xP
Spam Panic or Power Strike? - wobbufet - 2008-07-02
I believe that simply 5x PS + 1 panic > 6x fully charged PS. Or that's what I always assumed.
Spam Panic or Power Strike? - Hazzy - 2008-07-02
wobbufet Wrote:I believe that simply 5x PS + 1 panic > 6x fully charged PS. Or that's what I always assumed.
It does. But what's larger?
500x PS + 100 Panics, or 1 Orb dmg +2 Orb dmg + 3 Orb dmg + 4 Orb dmg + 595 Fully Charge PS?
Anyone know how Damage is calculated with Orbs? ._.
Spam Panic or Power Strike? - wobbufet - 2008-07-02
According to my math brain it's still the same. 5x PS (starting from 0 orbs) + 1x Panic > 6x charged up PS
Spam Panic or Power Strike? - Hazzy - 2008-07-02
How exactly is damage calculated with Orbs? ._.
Spam Panic or Power Strike? - wobbufet - 2008-07-02
Hazzy Wrote:How exactly is damage calculated with Orbs? ._.
I believe it has not been figured out yet exactly. I suppose every orb has it's own multiplyer but I don't know the numbers.
Spam Panic or Power Strike? - Hazzy - 2008-07-02
I'ma look on Sleepywood, I'm sure I've seen something there. D:
Ohyea, I remember this threadlol.
http://sleepywood.net/forum/showthread.php?t=1456326&highlight=combo+damage
Code:
Panic (5 hits plus Panic, typical charge up)
2.60 + 3.12 + 3.25 + 3.38 + 3.51 + 12.25 = 2811%
NO Panic (6 hits with 5 orbs charged)
3.64 + 3.64 + 3.64 + 3.64 + 3.64 + 3.64 = 2184%
Spam Panic or Power Strike? - Cardboardsnail - 2008-07-02
Hazzy Wrote:I'ma look on Sleepywood, I'm sure I've seen something there. D:
Ohyea, I remember this threadlol.
http://sleepywood.net/forum/showthread.php?t=1456326&highlight=combo+damage
Code:Panic (5 hits plus Panic, typical charge up)
2.60 + 3.12 + 3.25 + 3.38 + 3.51 + 12.25 = 2811%
NO Panic (6 hits with 5 orbs charged)
3.64 + 3.64 + 3.64 + 3.64 + 3.64 + 3.64 = 2184%
That's a pretty big difference.
Spam Panic or Power Strike? - wobbufet - 2008-07-02
Hazzy Wrote:I'ma look on Sleepywood, I'm sure I've seen something there. D:
Ohyea, I remember this threadlol.
http://sleepywood.net/forum/showthread.php?t=1456326&highlight=combo+damage
Code:Panic (5 hits plus Panic, typical charge up)
2.60 + 3.12 + 3.25 + 3.38 + 3.51 + 12.25 = 2811%
NO Panic (6 hits with 5 orbs charged)
3.64 + 3.64 + 3.64 + 3.64 + 3.64 + 3.64 = 2184%
So there you have it, charging up + Panic simply always beats spamming PS. Until 4th job that is, but that's a whole different story :p
Spam Panic or Power Strike? - Hazzy - 2008-07-02
wobbufet Wrote:So there you have it, charging up + Panic simply always beats spamming PS. Until 4th job that is, but that's a whole different story :p
Ok, let's start on that.
What level Brandish is more effective than spamming Panic/PS?
Spam Panic or Power Strike? - wobbufet - 2008-07-02
Hazzy Wrote:Ok, let's start on that.
What level Brandish is more effective than spamming Panic/PS?
I guess you mean at what level brandish > brandish/panic, right? :p
And I really wouldn't know, I'm no expert on heroes/crusaders T_T
Spam Panic or Power Strike? - Hazzy - 2008-07-02
wobbufet Wrote:I guess you mean at what level brandish > brandish/panic, right? :p
And I really wouldn't know, I'm no expert on heroes/crusaders T_T
That, or what I said, which ever one's first.