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Welcome to College - butterfλi - 2008-08-25
Enjoy your stay.
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Welcome to College - jrvillarreal - 2008-08-25
This ovie is like a year old...but still awesome
Welcome to College - Dusk - 2008-08-25
This is a totally one-sided perspective. College is not that depressing. Most of this really only applies to first and second year courses, I think. I'm a first year at Georgia Tech and 12 out of the 19 hours I go to class each week take place in those large lecture halls, but the higher level classes are much smaller and you get to know your professors and your classmates a lot better. And that's what recitation is for, to work in a smaller classroom environment with a TA.
You kind of have to go through these classes because there are so many people going to college these days. My high school was huge (26xx people), but my freshman class is even larger.
I've observed the people around me in lecture halls and people wasting their time Facebooking and doing other stuff is kind of common, but you still have the majority of people paying attention and taking notes.
There's a lot of work and studying, but I still find time to have fun, hang out with friends, and go to parties. I think the video as a whole takes too narrow an approach on things. I feel like the majority of classes I take are relevant to what I want to do or what I should be learning (except Chemistry o_o); a lot more so than high school. Our public school systems are much more problematic than colleges and universities. Kids waking up at 5 in the morning to catch the bus or drive to school is ridiculous. And a lot of the classes I took in high school felt utterly pointless. I went to a magnet school and it was still hard to find a set of electives and classes I wanted to take that interested me and guided me towards a major or a career.
Of course, I'm only one student, and I only attend one university. All I can say is, whatever college they did this video at must've sucked.
Edit: Wait, this is the funhouse?
Welcome to College - butterfλi - 2008-08-25
Dusk Wrote:Wait, this is the funhouse?
Ya mang, it is. y so srs?
Welcome to College - Schrodinger - 2008-08-26
[SIZE="2"]Kansas State University just dropped bottom in terms of "respect" in my opinion. You should love your major and what you're studying. If you don't, then accept the fact that you'll just be a "middle-man" unless you have a high degree of natural intelligence and can think on the subject matter in new and innovative ways that are beyond normal comprehension.
As an 18 Year Old-American Male Citizen, you have the possibility of getting drafted and dying in the military. This is a time of responsibility. You pay for College, but this doesn't mean College has to "walk you by the hand." Especially at a "state-university" you have to claw and bite to get the best scholarships and to reduce your tuition by as much as possible. Scholarships aren't going to go out of their way to look for smart kids. Smart kids go out of their way to look for scholarships that belong to them and apply for them.
If you want a University that cares more about your needs, pay $40,000 a year for a small-private college. That's what the heft price-tag is for: more personal 1-1 time with your professor to do whatever whining you need to do in order to change your B+ to an A.
In the end, anyone can say that they want something more than another person but how do Colleges know they actually mean it? You study, love what you study, and sometimes study because you want to do well. Nothing is ever black and white. But if you honestly try hard, colleges will reward appropriately.
If I honestly had to fill out a sign it would go: [Getting hosed down by the local fire department for overcrowding an Organic Chemistry Class filled by 500 students over capacity.] It's almost been a tradition in our school for one professor's Organic Chemistry class to be 5x pass the capacity limit because he is the only professor who can teach. The local Fire Department every year pulls out hoses and starts threatening students to leave because they are a "fire hazard."
Kids still protest. Kids still stay. Kids still give the fire department people the middle finger. Kids get hosed. And life goes on. It's a beautiful world. Kids join the facebook group and meet up afterwards for some alcohol and laughs. Kids network and share the moment for the rest of their lives. There's always a positive side to the darkest situations. And even the darkest situations ten years down the road is like a tragedy occurring on a PBS-13 show like Barney. No big deal at all.
Edit: I've met the smartest pineappleing kids at College. So smart, they blew any sense of "pride" I had left in me of my own "intelligence." And even though I've learned more from them than any professor, I wouldn't have met them if it wasn't for college. The only reason why I can keep up with my studies is because I love to read anything. But honestly, I wouldn't have realized just how insanely naturally smart some children are if it wasn't for College. [/SIZE]
Welcome to College - IsaacGS - 2008-08-26
yeah that's pretty much true. the only one of those I don't have to deal with is a class of 115, most of mine are closer to 40.
Welcome to College - butterfλi - 2008-08-26
Schrodinger Wrote:[SIZE="2"]-text-[/SIZE]There are some things in the video that are exaggerated. Like "my neighbor pays for class but never shows up". Maybe they dropped out of the class, maybe they were in a car accident. But also that 4-year colleges have a lot of people that have parents paying for their education. They might as well be in high school. But realistically, out of a classroom, whether it's 10 people or 100 people, how many people "pays for class but never shows up"? Like 2?
"I spend 2 hours a day on the cellphone"? Why not just spend two hours to hang out with friends so you can talk to them face to face? It saves you some minutes and gets you fresh air.
Anything can be portrayed as all-good or all-bad. Take this article. To take something that's "bad" and make it sound like it's good. I wish I can remember and find a piece I read that made sleeping with your sibling sound like a good thing; moralistically right even. It all depends on what you're going after and then wording yourself to make the audience believe it.
Also, the environment of the college also shapes the way people think of it. Like your own; you like your college. You have friends, you enjoy enlightening yourself. I think it's only natural that you find yourself among the norm of your college. Because in a college, you're not the smartest kid in your class anymore. Everybody is.
But Isaac can relate himself to the video; not enough study hours, studying things that aren't relevant to your career, buying hundreds of dollars textbooks that professors don't even teach out of.
It all depends on what you want to highlight and how you want to portray it to make people think the way you want them to.
Welcome to College - Schrodinger - 2008-08-26
[SIZE="2"]I hate how the dramatic sob-music is playing in the background and the graffiti behind the chairs are supposed to leave an impression on me. It's supposed to, but it doesn't. There are many "non-traditional" students who face a harder life than them. One of my classmates was a thirty-five year old mother who woke up at 5am, drove her two-year old to a nursery at roughly 7am, got to class by 9am, got out of class by 4pm, worked her job from 4-7pm, picked up her child at 8pm, and got home by 9pm. From 10pm to ?am she studied. This deserves the melodramatic music. I had a deep respect for her and even covered for her in lecture when she couldn't attend because of her child. She even broke down and started crying because she was worried whether or not her child was being fed properly. She was also afraid that her child would forget who she was and would briefly make a trip to the bathroom and come back quickly. She didn't have this, "pity me. Life is so hard" mentality. She was a true champion and I truly respect her. I could peach about my schedule and missing out on friends, but doing so would absolutely put me to shame when I think of what she has to go through just in order to complete her degree. This video is shameful because it is created in order to evoke sympathy from the audience. College students don't need to be pitied, they just need to increase their willingness to understand there are people doing the exact same things they are doing under even more strenuous conditions. And even though I do peach and rant like a spoiled child, I always have the most humble real life experiences that put me back into place and make me realize my place in the world.
I'm nothing special. Just a little brat who has the luxury of studying while working a part-time job. And so, I'll continue to do my best studying and try to utilize what has been given to me to the best of my abilities. Regardless of what other people say, I will try to not lose my perspective on life and the gifts that have been given to me.
I'm not attacking you. I just felt that the video was very-one sided given the opening messages. There are many things wrong with my college and I think it's a piece of ----. But I enjoy the fact that I can get an education and have the leisure to read anything I want and take up a profession to help people how I want. I've been given a lot of freedoms and I appreciate that wholeheartedly. [/SIZE]