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Regarding increase of HP.. - Printable Version +- Southperry.net (https://www.southperry.net) +-- Forum: Maplestory (https://www.southperry.net/forumdisplay.php?fid=15) +--- Forum: Game Mechanics (https://www.southperry.net/forumdisplay.php?fid=33) +--- Thread: Regarding increase of HP.. (/showthread.php?tid=27484) |
Regarding increase of HP.. - Saint - 2010-07-10 Is there really an increase in HP? Just curious lol. I was seeing Spadow's blog and I saw this picture of his. ![]() So I was wondering about it. Fiel Wrote:You guys have been screaming for this, so I thought I'd provide it. Regarding increase of HP.. - Hazzy - 2010-07-10 The old system changed how much HP you gain on a level up or through AP based on job and skill level. The new one is a passive HB. Not sure how it's affected by AP though. In theory, characters made before the patch should have a lot more HP than that same character made after the patch. . . . Heh. My Dual Blader gained roughly 100 HP. I logged in on him and maxed out the HP Booster skill, and his HP shot up. ![]() ![]() Note, this was on the day of the patch, so I added SP from highest job down, minimizing error. Regarding increase of HP.. - IllegallySane - 2010-07-11 ^--- What was your HP after getting the HP booster skill? As for Spadow's Viper not increasing in HP, I'm okay with that. As long as it's not lolranged HP I'm happy. I think the HP increase is in regards to ranged classes only, and those with the new HP increasing skills didn't get an HP increase. Regarding increase of HP.. - 66alex66 - 2010-07-11 Spadow's picture is misleading because he didn't add any SP into anything before taking that picture, therefore not recieving any additional HP Regarding increase of HP.. - Hazzy - 2010-07-11 That is my HP after I added the skill. o-o It's an exact 10% increase from 1906 to 2096. My HP was unchanged until I added to the skill. Regarding increase of HP.. - IllegallySane - 2010-07-11 Hazzy Wrote:That is my HP after I added the skill. o-o It's an exact 10% increase from 1906 to 2096. My HP was unchanged until I added to the skill. Oh okay. I thought you received an extra 100 HP for free after the revamp and you didn't add into the HP increasing skill yet since you said "maxed out the HP Booster skill, and his HP shot up". To me, shooting up in HP at 1906 would be hundreds of extra hit points, but on the other hand ~190 is good too. Regarding increase of HP.. - Hazzy - 2010-07-11 I typed it with numbers from memory, checked the screen shots and realized I gained 100 HP, not 700. Changed a few digits and hit save. :S Bad wording on my part. Regarding increase of HP.. - Bountyan - 2010-07-11 Wait, so if you gain HP upon adding into the HP bonus skill...does that mean your HP basically gets multiplied by 1.2 for Brawlers and Warriors after the patch? (From the 20% HP skill) Double post, delete this. Regarding increase of HP.. - Hazzy - 2010-07-11 Bountyan Wrote:Wait, so if you gain HP upon adding into the HP bonus skill...does that mean your HP basically gets multiplied by 1.2 for Brawlers and Warriors after the patch? (From the 20% HP skill) DB HP Skill adds 10%, so it would appear so. Now who gains HP faster: Pre- or post-BB Warriors, DBers, Thieves, Warriors, et cetera? Regarding increase of HP.. - LiquidSwing - 2010-07-11 Hazzy Wrote:DB HP Skill adds 10%, so it would appear so. Now who gains HP faster: Pre- or post-BB Warriors, DBers, Thieves, Warriors, et cetera? The skill does not increase the HP you gain when leveling. What would happen is this; Say you are a lvl 42 warrior. Because you are a god among men (and I want simple numbers for easy math) you have 10,800 hp. You have 10,800 HP because the skill takes your base hp (in this case 9000) and increases it by 20%. Say you lvl to 43, and gain 100 HP (once again because you are a god among men). The HP you gain from leveling isn't increased by the skill. Now, your base hp is 9,100. The skill now applies, increasing it by 20%. Giving you 10,920 HP. I think people are confusing the skill increasing the amount of HP you gain per level with just increasing the amount of HP you have. The HP you gain when you level will seem like more because of the HP increasing skill, but the amount of Hp you gain per level is not increased by the HP skill. Regarding increase of HP.. - Hazzy - 2010-07-11 They might have changed how much HP is gained with AP and leveling. I have seen nothing that says it's the same. And the lv 43 warrior in your example would have 10,920 HP, not 10,820. Regarding increase of HP.. - Locked - 2010-07-11
before patch|Level 30|1668 HP|Page
after patch|Level 30|2196 HP|Swordsman (No gain at advancing)
c Regarding increase of HP.. - LiquidSwing - 2010-07-12 Hazzy Wrote:They might have changed how much HP is gained with AP and leveling. I have seen nothing that says it's the same. Ya sorry I made a typo. But ya, I just cant see it working like that. That would screw the people who are already high leveled over so hard. I can't see it happening that way. If it doesn't affect the HP you recieve when you level up, then it's equal for everyone. Regarding increase of HP.. - KatanaKiwi - 2010-07-12 ok i hope im not making this more confusing, but im hearing 2 different things: - every job's hp is being increased by the patch? true false? if true, is this % based or based on a set amount of extra hp different for what level your character is? would for instance an aran get extra hp? we dont have the max hp increase skill? - then there are people who say only the jobs that used to have max hp increase get extra hp via the new skill? true/false? if true then does that mean the other jobs dont get extra hp at all like (again) aran since they dont have the hp skill? and i was kind of hoping if somebody could confirm if the hp per ap changed for any class? its being denied and confirmed by different people Regarding increase of HP.. - Hazzy - 2010-07-12 Your Base HP is not going to change after the patch. At all. Not even a little. Several classes have a skill that increases HP just like Hyper Body, except it's passive. The boost range from 10 to 30%(?). Regarding increase of HP.. - KatanaKiwi - 2010-07-12 so for my hero this is wonderfull, i have used max hpincrease for nearly 200 levels, and now i dont use it anymore they replace it with a skill that boosts my hp by 30% while i keep the extra hp gained from max hp increase? wonderfull! edit: for new players this sux though, if i would normally have 13000 hp before hyperbody, before they changed the hp skills, i would get 13000 hp x 1,6 = 20800 hp with hyperbody with the new skill i have 10000 hp base and 3000 hp extra hp from a passive boost, this would look like its the same; 13000 hp, but if i get hyperbody it becomes 10000 hp x (1,6+0,3) = 19000 hp with hyperbody maybe max hp increase didnt really give 3000 hp, maybe less, but my point is, on the long term you gain less hp %-wise from hyperbody because new players get extra % hp instead of base hp ugh i guess it doesnt matter much since we get a lot of hp% equips aswell, hp isnt really an issue anymore.. ever for arans this kind of doesnt matter much since we have "level 5" max hp increase implemented into our hp per lvlup/ap formula.. and since thats not really a skill we get to keep it, meaning we can still hpwash much unless they changed the hp/lvlup and hp/ap for every class, id like to know if this is really the case or not Regarding increase of HP.. - Locked - 2010-07-12 KatanaKiwi Wrote:so for my hero this is wonderfull, i have used max hpincrease for nearly 200 levels, and now i dont use it anymore they replace it with a skill that boosts my hp by 30% while i keep the extra hp gained from max hp increase? wonderfull! The Warrior version is 20% MaxHP increase. Regarding increase of HP.. - Hazzy - 2010-07-12 Who said it stacks additively? Regarding increase of HP.. - KatanaKiwi - 2010-07-12 this was said somewhere else on this forum, i believe in one of the extraction topics i could look up where that's been said, anyways if something has been said it doesnt make it true right away, thats why im hoping for some answers/confirmations from KMS people Regarding increase of HP.. - IllegallySane - 2010-07-12 KatanaKiwi Wrote:this was said somewhere else on this forum, i believe in one of the extraction topics The 30% is only assuming it's possible to gain an extra 5 skill points beyond the cap of 10. See this? ---최대 HP 20% 증가--- The lines mean that's the normal cap. The 30% is assuming it's possible to stack levels beyond the normal cap. |