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Regarding the new patch coming to KMS... - OrangeGuy - 2010-06-24
What would be best to master, Shockwave or Blast? Currently level 86, and I'm wondering what would be the best skill build after the patch.
Also, no one seems to answer this, did CSB really lose its invincibility frames?
Regarding the new patch coming to KMS... - IllegallySane - 2010-06-24
Blast. You're going to be using well into late, or all of 4th job when not Transformed, and Shockwave will always be known as failwave/lolwave/roflwave because it needs Transformation to use, and the stun on Blast makes it good to use for more damage as well as it's way speedier than Shockwave. As for CSB, there was only one single video to see it in action, and it seemed to have lost the aftereffect invincibility frames, which gives it as much invincibility as Backspin Blow now. Is that a bad thing? It depends; it will rush 6 mobs now which will mean faster training. It means however you won't bed spamming CSB for permanent invincibility, although that seems to have been passed on to the new nodelay Barrage (aka you can Barrage again as soon as you're done with the 1st one).
Regarding the new patch coming to KMS... - OrangeGuy - 2010-06-24
Yeah I saw that Barrage, that was epic. So with the new skills, what would be a good skill build for 2nd job and 3rd job?
Regarding the new patch coming to KMS... - IllegallySane - 2010-06-24
OrangeGuy Wrote:Yeah I saw that Barrage, that was epic. So with the new skills, what would be a good skill build for 2nd job and 3rd job?
Based on a skim of the new skills, I can simply sum up what you shouldn't max. Will make it easier for me.
2nd job: Double Upper is going to be ignored until the last several levels when everything else is maxed (yes, that includes MP Recovery and Barrel) because it does terrible damage for it's delay time (Flash Fist does slightly more damage over time, even more so now that Double Upper is greatly nerfed) and Barrage will easily overshadow it in power and in coolness.
3rd job: Shockwave should take leftover SP because Blast is simply more amazing, and every other skill you will get in 3rd job will still be usable in early-mid 4th job. Drain will be used forever; Blast will probably never get replaced when not Transformed; Energy Charge, Transform, and Stun Mastery are very obvious; Dice will be useful even at level 200, and before then who wouldn't like the rare chance of getting a +30% EXP buff?
Regarding the new patch coming to KMS... - OrangeGuy - 2010-06-24
Thank you very much, that pretty much makes me set.
lolaneers make a comeback
Regarding the new patch coming to KMS... - Worthyness - 2010-06-24
If KMS resets the way it's being speculated, most people will only have 20 extra points to allocate =/
Doesn't csb invincibility basically ruin our traing format?
Regarding the new patch coming to KMS... - OrangeGuy - 2010-06-27
Well, now that I look at it, nothing really changes for both 2nd and 3rd job.
2nd Job, due to the nerfs made to Double Uppercut, you can give that up altogether, and that gives enough points for Oak Barrel, MP Recovery, and the new Critical Punch.
3rd Job, since Energy Charge's master level is only 20, the other 20 points can go to that Dice skill. Everything else stays the same.
Regarding the new patch coming to KMS... - LegendGospel - 2010-06-27
Worthyness Wrote:Doesn't csb invincibility basically ruin our traing format?
From the videos, it still has invincibility frames, just not as much. People say about half.
It should be enough, I think. Maybe even enough to spam CSB>DS without getting hit. Surely good enough to spam CSB>Blast (great 3rd job combo, I used it to kill Crogs at dojo) without getting hit.
Regarding the new patch coming to KMS... - IllegallySane - 2010-06-27
LegendGospel Wrote:From the videos, it still has invincibility frames, just not as much. People say about half.
It should be enough, I think. Maybe even enough to spam CSB>DS without getting hit. Surely good enough to spam CSB>Blast (great 3rd job combo, I used it to kill Crogs at dojo) without getting hit.
Let's face it. With Counter Attack in 4th job, you'd actually want LESS invincibility from CSB so you can have a manly 40 bonus attack up all the time. It's even better than Maple Warrior because you don't have to cast it nor worry buying attack potions..