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max pr or mp eater - jasejase - 2008-08-22
simple, i'm not going to put any points in magic compo. should i max mp eater for when i'm meteo spamming or partial resistance?
please don't tell me to max compo, i'm not gonna do it. so just mp eater or pr, which is better in the long run?
max pr or mp eater - Tikey - 2008-08-22
I would say MP Eater is more useful in the long run. If Nexon keeps up their trend of adding new monsters with aosfindgfio;sgu high MP, then you can probably pull of more Meteors with one pot, and that's big IF.
Either way, both are pretty useless.
max pr or mp eater - Chompy - 2008-08-22
I think really...
Thi9s is tough.
Because for CURRENT monsters- Mp eater 4shore
BUT!
Mp eater only saves Mesos.
PR will- be more along the saving your ass at bosses/newawesomeelemental monsters
So your gamble-
Save petty mesos now
or
Risk saving your life later
...
I'd go PR- but only by a little
max pr or mp eater - Thomas - 2008-08-22
1 in PR rest in Mp Eater, thats what I'd do... There arent many Boss Monsters that attack with only Poison/Fire magic... At Zakum for example you would take only 25% damage from its fire attacks but still take full damage for all its other attacks... so PR isn't really a life saving skill, nor will it probably ever become one. Mp Eater will be used for normal training which you will most likely be doing more often then boss hunting as an f/p mage, so I'd recommend Mp Eater above PR.
max pr or mp eater - Cyanne - 2008-08-22
Both skills are pretty useless for now; just toss a coin. Though I think taking like 400 damage from pap's fire attacks is pretty cool.
max pr or mp eater - Harrisonized - 2008-08-22
Max PR.
If you go hunting Wolf Spiders (each ilbi gets you about 8K nx by selling scrolls), you'll be able to reset poison brace back into MPE. However, if you dump the third job points into MPE, when you reset it, you won't be able to bring it back to PR.
I estimate it'll take 8 ilbis to reset all your brace points into MPE. A worthy trade in my opinion. 8 ilbis = 64 hours of wolf spiders. If you have enough patience, you CAN gain back MPE.
This is also the reason I tell people not to max brace. By saving about 35 hours of training, it'll take 64 hours to reset.
max pr or mp eater - Cyanne - 2008-08-22
^What if you just don't reset at all? I doubt the average player plays enough to make resetting into mp eater worth the cost anyways, especially with this inflation bringing down the value of meso.
max pr or mp eater - Harrisonized - 2008-08-23
Cyanne Wrote:^What if you just don't reset at all? I doubt the average player plays enough to make resetting into mp eater worth the cost anyways, especially with this inflation bringing down the value of meso.You said that they're the same. Just flip a coin? I'm showing an advantage of getting PR. :f6:
max pr or mp eater - Veneni - 2008-08-23
How about 10 points in each?
max pr or mp eater - Harrisonized - 2008-08-23
Veneni Wrote:How about 10 points in each?Then those 10 points in MPE won't be able to convert back into PR when he decides to reset it. =)
max pr or mp eater - Cyanne - 2008-08-23
Yeah, but you're arguing that you can reset into mp eater if you max partial resistance. I'm just asking that whichever way he takes, why would he need to reset anyways?
max pr or mp eater - Harrisonized - 2008-08-24
Cyanne Wrote:Yeah, but you're arguing that you can reset into mp eater if you max partial resistance. I'm just asking that whichever way he takes, why would he need to reset anyways?Since he has no MPE, I'm assuming he went hybrid for poison.
So, basically, he has 30 in poison brace and 0 in MPE.
He will have 20 extra points. Which he can choose to put in either MPE or PR.
If he puts it in PR, he can reset the poison brace back into MPE. However, if he puts it in MPE, he will not ever be able to get PR, because once the third job points are used in second job skills, they get stuck there.
I don't know how I can be more clear than that.
max pr or mp eater - Veneni - 2008-08-24
Harrisonized Wrote:Since he has no MPE, I'm assuming he went hybrid for poison.If he does wants to reset, but I don't get where you get the idea he was planning too. If he was then we wouldn't have his discussion O_o
So, basically, he has 30 in poison brace and 0 in MPE.
He will have 20 extra points. Which he can choose to put in either MPE or PR.
If he puts it in PR, he can reset the poison brace back into MPE. However, if he puts it in MPE, he will not ever be able to get PR, because once the third job points are used in second job skills, they get stuck there.
I don't know how I can be more clear than that.
Look at my "10 points in each" this way:
10 SP = 10% more chance of 10% more mp drain. (1)
= 30% less damage taken. (2)
= 20% less damage taken. (3)
If you think (1) > (3) max MPE, if you think (2) > (1) but (1) > (3) do 10 points in each. If you think (3) > (1) max PR.
max pr or mp eater - jasejase - 2008-08-25
just so you know, i ended up maxing PR (or starting to, anyways).
i just wanted to add, that for the guy who says that getting 28+ poison brace in second job only saves 35 hours of training .. you're delusional. i used poison brace for godly exp straight through from level 55 to level 80. poison brace at MDTs is the best experience for a f/p wizard or mage right from when you can go there until you max mist.
max pr or mp eater - Magus - 2008-08-25
Do you have any points into slow?
If not I'd get that over eater and PR.
max pr or mp eater - Cyanne - 2008-08-26
^I don't think you can leave both slow and mp eater unmaxed with the points you have in 2nd job, assuming he didn't add half into points into one skill, and half in the other.
Harrisonized Wrote:Since he has no MPE, I'm assuming he went hybrid for poison.
So, basically, he has 30 in poison brace and 0 in MPE.
He will have 20 extra points. Which he can choose to put in either MPE or PR.
If he puts it in PR, he can reset the poison brace back into MPE. However, if he puts it in MPE, he will not ever be able to get PR, because once the third job points are used in second job skills, they get stuck there.
I don't know how I can be more clear than that.
K maybe I should rephrase. If he got partial resistance, [SIZE="6"]WHAT IF HE DIDN'T WANT TO RESET INTO MP EATER?[/SIZE]
max pr or mp eater - jasejase - 2008-08-26
hey, i guess i'll just make it clear that i have a level 138 f/p mage from SEA; i'm not stupid. of course i have points in slow. now i'm working on this 112 f/p on global.
i only asked because i'm not familiar with the newer high lvl content on global so i wasn't sure if it was worth having max PR. i don't want to reset in to mp eater and i am fully happy deciding to max PR - pap damage down here i come
cyanne is wise, listen to her next time harrisonized.