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Achilles + Power Guard - Russt - 2009-12-26
Hello.
I'm wondering a very simple question. Does Achilles 15% reduction stack additively or multiplicatively with PG's 40%?
Additive would mean you take 45% of original damage (53% of Achilles damage), and multiplicative 51% (60% of Achilles damage). It's not a big difference but it has larger implications for such stacking situations in general. In particular, Combo Barrier + Magic Shield + Achilles/PG/Meso/Invincible/etc would lead to some pretty crazy damage reductions if they were all additive.
I'd like screenshot evidence, if possible.
Achilles + Power Guard - Nikkey - 2009-12-31
Multiplicative. Achilles removes 15% off income damage. That is, the damage you take shown on your screen. Can't prove it, but it's simple theory: PG deals 40% of the damage back. How much would be dealt back if Achilles were applied? The same if multiplicative (so that Achilles is done before/after PG (it's done after)), but it would do 55% if Achilles were applied additive. If not, then the damage shown dealt to the monster (non-boss) would be almost exact as the damage dealt to you (40 vs 45).
Achilles + Power Guard - Russt - 2009-12-31
That makes sense.
AUUUGUHHHHHHH -throws a fit-
Why the hell does Barrier and Meso Guard stack additively then.
Achilles + Power Guard - y0y0y0y0shi0 - 2009-12-31
Russt Wrote:That makes sense.Like I said in the IRC when we were all derping about whether or not it was additive or multiplicative: It's Nexon.
AUUUGUHHHHHHH -throws a fit-
Why the hell does Barrier and Meso Guard stack additively then.
Achilles + Power Guard - KajitiSouls - 2009-12-31
Level 4 Achilles, before the apparent "it doesn't show the right number" fix.
![[Image: maple1470.jpg]](http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/5866/maple1470.jpg)
![[Image: maple1471.jpg]](http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/1340/maple1471.jpg)
EDIT: You know, it would help a lot more if I had the skill window open xD But currently I have lvl 5 Achilles, and I'm lvl 159 now.
Other before/after pics for comparison
![[Image: maple1472.jpg]](http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/3268/maple1472.jpg)
![[Image: maple1473.jpg]](http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/5145/maple1473.jpg)
![[Image: maple1474.jpg]](http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/9614/maple1474.jpg)
![[Image: maple1475.jpg]](http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/1165/maple1475.jpg)
Achilles + Power Guard - Russt - 2009-12-31
y0y0y0y0shi0 Wrote:Like I said in the IRC when we were all derping about whether or not it was additive or multiplicative: It's Nexon.
That's not it though. Code doesn't work that way. If they were stupid, it won't work in the first place. They would've had to purposefully and carefully screw it up.