Reverse Lampion - Printable Version

Reverse Lampion - Printable Version

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Reverse Lampion - ZakumSlaYers - 2009-05-26

Just a warning to people who wants to use black crystal in item maker, USE only at your own risk!
I got my reverse Lampion -4 WATK because of it, it's base WATK is 54.

http://forums.asiasoftsea.net/showthread.php?t=620292

List of item used :
-Advanced monster crystal 2, 20
-Advanced monster crystal 3, 14
-Piece of time, 45
-Orihalcon Plate, 5
-Advanced diamond, 1
-Advanced Luk crystal, 1
-Advanced black crystal, 1

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Reverse Lampion - Fiel - 2009-05-26

LUK went up by 2, though. That's about the only good thing that black crystal did for you.

Reverse Lampion - ZakumSlaYers - 2009-05-26

Fiel Wrote:LUK went up by 2, though. That's about the only good thing that black crystal did for you.

black crystal sux Hothead

Reverse Lampion - KajitiSouls - 2009-05-26

He's basically the messenger saying that Black and Dark Crystals act like chaos scrolls.

The question now is what's the different between low grade Black Crystals and high grade ones?

Reverse Lampion - Sarah - 2009-05-26

Wow you were able to make a piece of reverse equipment that quickly? I am excited for time temple again!

Reverse Lampion - ZakumSlaYers - 2009-05-26

BombsAway Wrote:Wow you were able to make a piece of reverse equipment that quickly? I am excited for time temple again!

It took me almost 4 days with 2x and 4x drop rate to hunt for the Piece of time.
it's kinda rare here Rolleyes

Reverse Lampion - Fiel - 2009-05-26

oh wait, I forgot advanced LUK gives 5 LUK. So the black crystal only hurt you.

Reverse Lampion - KatanaKiwi - 2009-05-26

so basically a 10atk item could be made +3 (diamond) +5 Darkcrystal +3 black crystal +5 above average = 26atk
then lvl up it to?

also what would the odd for this happening be? assuming this is a warrior weapon which only have weapon attack, and also assuming we use a stimulator and a highest grade diamond (+3atk) highest grade Dark Crystal (-5/+5 random stat) and a highest grade black crystal (+3/-3 atk)

chance on not breaking = 0.9
chance on ending up 15atk {5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15} = 1/11
chance of the diamond adding 3atk = 1.0
chance of DC adding 5 atk = 1/11
chance of BC adding 3 atk = 1/7
0.9 x 1/11 x 1/11 x 1/7 x 0.5 = 0,053% chance on ending up 16 atk above average

and then there is yet to add the lvlupable weapon attack.

also im looking for the following confirmations: a Black crystal/ Dark crystal change all

Reverse Lampion - Alloy - 2009-05-26

KatanaKiwi Wrote:so basically a 10atk item could be made +3 (diamond) +5 Darkcrystal +3 black crystal +5 above average = 26atk
then lvl up it to?

also what would the odd for this happening be? assuming this is a warrior weapon which only have weapon attack, and also assuming we use a stimulator and a highest grade diamond (+3atk) highest grade Dark Crystal (-5/+5 random stat) and a highest grade black crystal (+3/-3 atk)

chance on not breaking = 0.9
chance on ending up 15atk {5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15} = 1/11
chance of the diamond adding 3atk = 1.0
chance of DC adding 5 atk = 1/11
chance of BC adding 3 atk = 1/7
0.9 x 1/11 x 1/11 x 1/7 x 0.5 = 0,053% chance on ending up 16 atk above average

and then there is yet to add the lvlupable weapon attack.

also im looking for the following confirmations: a Black crystal/ Dark crystal change all

Dark Crystal only affects LUK, STR, DEX and INT.

Also... 5 above isn't a bit too much?

Reverse Lampion - KatanaKiwi - 2009-05-26

5 above average is possible with a stimulator

Reverse Lampion - ZakumSlaYers - 2009-05-26

KatanaKiwi Wrote:5 above average is possible with a stimulator

Well, I'm gonna try it with a stimulator and an advanced black crystal next.
Currently hunting piece of time Mad

got 1 so far, 44 more to go Tongue

hope it comes out as a wa6x clean reverse lampion this time.

Reverse Lampion - Link - 2009-05-26

ZakumSlaYers Wrote:Well, I'm gonna try it with a stimulator and an advanced black crystal next.
Currently hunting piece of time got 1 so far, 44 more to go hope it comes out as a wa6x clean reverse lampion this time.

Stimulators also have a chance of blowing up the item. Good luck with your next claw!

Reverse Lampion - ItzTaylor - 2009-05-26

I'm a noob at Item Maker, and don't know much about it so this may seem like a stupid question, but...

You can make Timeless Weapons with Item Maker? :f6:

Reverse Lampion - Five Second Pose - 2009-05-26

They're not Timeless, they're Reverse. These are a step down, I believe.

Reverse Lampion - ItzTaylor - 2009-05-26

Wow *Is confused*

I thought that's the name and as it levels up it changes the name or something...

:f6:

I really needa get with the times.

Reverse Lampion - Mark - 2009-05-26

Wow, that's good to know.

Off topic: Since the patch, how has the ore market been? Has there been massive inflation on most ores/crystals?

Reverse Lampion - Cavalier - 2009-05-26

ItzTaylor Wrote:Wow *Is confused*

I thought that's the name and as it levels up it changes the name or something...

:f6:

I really needa get with the times.

If I remember correctly, reverse and timeless look the same and are both level 120, but have a few differences.
Timeless has a base attack that's 2 higher than reverse, and can level up 5 times to reverse's 3 times.
Something like that.

Reverse Lampion - Fiel - 2009-05-26

Opeth Wrote:Wow, that's good to know.

Off topic: Since the patch, how has the ore market been? Has there been massive inflation on most ores/crystals?

For diamonds:

LQ is about 500k
MQ is about 2.5m
HQ is about 25m
Regular diamonds are about 1m
Steel and mithril inflated to about 600k
Adamantium went up to 1.5m

I have an old mule account that can access MSEA. Smile

Reverse Lampion - ItzTaylor - 2009-05-26

Ohhhhh Thanks for clearing that up! Biggrin

I learn something new everyday. :f6:

@Fiel are those the only ores worth mentioning. I'm trying to get a list to stock up on ;O

Reverse Lampion - Outland - 2009-05-26

Fiel Wrote:[SIZE="1"]For diamonds:

LQ is about 500k
MQ is about 2.5m
HQ is about 25m[/SIZE]
Regular diamonds are about 1m
[SIZE="1"]Steel and mithril inflated to about 600k
Adamantium went up to 1.5m[/SIZE]

I have an old mule account that can access MSEA.

Are regular diamonds on MSEA as easy to get as they are in GMS?
APQ bonus drops them in large amounts. I'm wondering if looting diamonds in bonus will be as lucrative as looting apples in GMS.
[SIZE="1"]Might as well start stockpiling now.[/SIZE]