Star Force (new equipment enhancement system)

Star Force is the new equipment enhancement system. After months of collecting data, feedback and changes it is finally ready to be released to the public server.
You can use Star Force once you have used up all the upgrade slots of your equipment. This system was designed because the previous equipment enhancement system was horrible. Not to mention the exclusive game breaking Miraculous Enhancement Equipment Scrolls. Star Force is now designed to give all users better accessibility and to rely less on Cash items to enhance an item. Developers have also said they're gradually changing more elements to rely less on Cash items.

The developers have just released the official data for Star Force:

http://i.imgur.com/MNyBvCk.png

Stage = Stars.

What are your thoughts?

On top of that, there's a video of a guy enhancing his tyrant shoes in KMST:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AU7m6A6eFg

45% success rate at 10 stars is pretty generous

Thank you. Some questions:

1) Does failure = boom?

2) Does this system give the same stat increases per successful enhancement as the old EE/AEE scrolls do (including the higher values for Superior equipment)?
2.1) Is the amount of stat increase fixed or random?

3) Do EE/AEE scrolls still work?
3.1) If so, do they still behave as they did before?

Pretty good system, except for the meso costs. Getting mesos from normally playing the game is pretty hard, and while I understand some people swim in a never-ending supply of mesos and we very much need a meso sink, others don't have anything and therefore cannot really profit from this system. In DFO, the system is similar but the money cost, while being fairly expensive, is easily farmable. If there was more ways to earn mesos in maplestory (a functionning auction house and drops that are actually worth something) would be a good start.

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Originally Posted by SaptaZapta

1) Does failure = boom?

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I'm pretty sure the failure column is boom chance. Only 1% chance for 12-15 stars is really low, and if it booms you still have those new equipment traces so all you have to do is scroll the slots again if you had good potential.

Lol @ 1% success rate 40% boom and 100m per try for a 25 star item. And yet i know every KMS "top player" will have 25 star stuff.

So they've decided to combat Miraculous Enhancement Scrolls with this? A 15 star MEE'd 160 ATT base weapon could hit 509 ATT and a 25 star weapon with this system could hit 443. Sure it's a much better system in general but really what's the point? It's still pretty broken.

What are the stats given to armour and accessories like? Currently they give a random stat +2/3 (ish) per star, I'm guessing they refined that slightly?

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Originally Posted by Mazz

So they've decided to combat Miraculous Enhancement Scrolls with this? A 15 star MEE'd 160 ATT base weapon could hit 509 ATT and a 25 star weapon with this system could hit 443. Sure it's a much better system in general but really what's the point? It's still pretty broken.

What are the stats given to armour and accessories like? Currently they give a random stat +2/3 (ish) per star, I'm guessing they refined that slightly?

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Don't forget we're supposed to get a new high level equipment set to replace fafnir stuff in the september update.

I think we can honestly say with no sarcasm that everyone is looking forward to our equipment being trash again. :f3:

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Originally Posted by Takebacker

Don't forget we're supposed to get a new high level equipment set to replace fafnir stuff in the september update.

I think we can honestly say with no sarcasm that everyone is looking forward to our equipment being trash again. :f3:

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At least this time everyone can join in with the power creep instead of just the super funded since the Star Force system seems pretty easy. Yay equality!

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Originally Posted by Mazz

So they've decided to combat Miraculous Enhancement Scrolls with this? A 15 star MEE'd 160 ATT base weapon could hit 509 ATT and a 25 star weapon with this system could hit 443. Sure it's a much better system in general but really what's the point? It's still pretty broken.

What are the stats given to armour and accessories like? Currently they give a random stat +2/3 (ish) per star, I'm guessing they refined that slightly?

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I think I was reading somewhere that MEE items are going to have a blue name to them and can't be enhanced to more than 15 stars.

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Originally Posted by Shads

I think I was reading somewhere that MEE items are going to have a blue name to them and can't be enhanced to more than 15 stars.

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Seems fair enough. MEEs + Star Force would make for some extremely unbalanced items. Though I don't even know what 'unbalanced' means anymore in terms of equipment.

I'm still not convinced this is a good thing for MapleStory, unless they do just want everyone to be able to hit max damage now so the pay2win thing is reduced. Seems like such a stupid way to go about it though.

Also, I just realised the super high amount of STR on that Tyrant boot in the video is very likely from additional options, which would suggest that the Star Force system gives Tyrant equips the same stats as the current enhancement system, but still not sure about other gear. I hope it gives a fixed amount of stats rather than a random selection from a pool of just about everything.

at the very least it seems like this system is really really good for the unfunded, and makes it so enhancing anything other than tyrants + weapons is actually worthwhile.

Do the usage limits still apply to (reg/superior) wards? It'd seem like quite a gamble if you couldn't protect your item(s) from exploding as the number of stars go up.

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Originally Posted by Raph589

Pretty good system, except for the meso costs. Getting mesos from normally playing the game is pretty hard, and while I understand some people swim in a never-ending supply of mesos and we very much need a meso sink, others don't have anything and therefore cannot really profit from this system. In DFO, the system is similar but the money cost, while being fairly expensive, is easily farmable. If there was more ways to earn mesos in maplestory (a functionning auction house and drops that are actually worth something) would be a good start.

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I disagree. every cost sub 10* is a pretty manageable cost and better success rate than the current system(and you should already have enough equipment slots to get 5-10 stars on each and not have to worry about star zones). If you are worrying about paying for stars at that point, you MUST have done something for your current set of armor already. If you are part of the underfunded group of people, you really shouldn't be looking at profiting from enhance scrolls in the first place. the difference between DFO's economy and MS is that MS' economy is driven by demand, where to profit means to farm high demand event items(e.g unique potential scrolls, protection scrolls, lucky day scrolls) compared to DFO's more general farm as quest items do play in the market and the crafting system is a bit more intertwined with gameplay than MS is.

Rule of thumb in ANY game is that low % success rate high risk stuff should NEVER be for the unfunded in MMO's or similar. its purely designed for the rich.

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Originally Posted by Reddish

Do the usage limits still apply to (reg/superior) wards? It'd seem like quite a gamble if you couldn't protect your item(s) from exploding as the number of stars go up.

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Except great items blowing up carries at least 95% less risk than it used to because of equipment traces.

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Originally Posted by Takebacker

Except great items blowing up carries at least 95% less risk than it used to because of equipment traces.

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What are those anyway?

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Originally Posted by MuscleWizard

What are those anyway?

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When items blow up you'll get a "scroll" that gives the blown up item's exact potential/bonus pot/presumably neb lines to use on something with the same name.

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Originally Posted by Takebacker

When items blow up you'll get a "scroll" that gives the blown up item's exact potential/bonus pot/presumably neb lines to use on something with the same name.

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That's actually pretty damn awesome

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Originally Posted by SaptaZapta

Thank you. Some questions.

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1) Yes. I edited the image to reflect this change.
2) I don't know what the increases of stats are from the EE/AEE scrolls. I believe the stat increase is fixed, but I am not sure about that. I am going to try the system out tomorrow when it is released. The enhancement UI shows you how much the stats will increase per star. I'll let you know once it is officially released.

3) Yes. No changes were made to these scrolls.

And yes, MEE'd equipment have blue stars instead of yellow. This doesn't matter for other regions since MEE scrolls remain exclusive to Korea.

An actual table with probability figures? Some transparency! No wai!

Let me see one of these for Cubes please.

Did they change Protect Scroll to work for items with more than 12 Stars? If not, I still wouldn't risk 12+ on my weapon or anything else I scrolled with Anniversary Scrolls. Tyrant, Nova or even Helisium items become far more palatable for YOLO Starring purposes since Takebacker reminded me of Equipment Traces and the fact that those items' scrolling isn't so important or significant.

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Originally Posted by Spadow

1) Yes. I edited the image to reflect this change.
2) I don't know what the increases of stats are from the EE/AEE scrolls. I believe the stat increase is fixed, but I am not sure about that. I am going to try the system out tomorrow when it is released. The enhancement UI shows you how much the stats will increase per star. I'll let you know once it is officially released.

3) Yes. No changes were made to these scrolls.

And yes, MEE'd equipment have blue stars instead of yellow. This doesn't matter for other regions since MEE scrolls remain exclusive to Korea.

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Didn't MSEA get something similar to MEEs?

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Originally Posted by Encyclopedic

Didn't MSEA get something similar to MEEs?

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No, they got no-booms ("High Quality Equip Enhancement scrolls") in the cash shop.

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Originally Posted by Grey

No, they got no-booms ("High Quality Equip Enhancement scrolls") in the cash shop.

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Oh right, those were the ones was thinking of. Confused them with the other 'strange' EE I guess.

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Originally Posted by Takebacker

When items blow up you'll get a "scroll" that gives the blown up item's exact potential/bonus pot/presumably neb lines to use on something with the same name.

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http://i.imgur.com/4lKd99L.png

Seems like everything's carried over, except for enhancements.

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Originally Posted by Grey

[im]http://i.imgur.com/4lKd99L.png[/img]

Seems like everything's carried over, except for enhancements.

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Wait so if i have a +10 att scrolled weapon i don't need to fear for my investment because the +10 att scrolls get carried over too?

Good god that's even better.

yes if u hav 5. 10, 15, 20 stars, your items will not down under 5, 10, 15, 20 star. http://file.maplestory.nexon.com/NX_...7519779895.png left to right, star level, success rate, maintain rate, down rate, boom rate, cost. average cost for success of 25 star is 33 billion. one more thing. if u fail twice in consequence, next success rate is 100 %

i like this system so much more. that cost after 10 stars though, shudders

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Originally Posted by ShinkuDragon

i like this system so much more. that cost after 10 stars though, shudders

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And that just goes up to 150, imagine the cost to enhance Sweetwater gear once we get it. (Or if you kept the Lv200 Tot's Trial Bottom for whatever reason)

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Originally Posted by Spadow

1) Yes. I edited the image to reflect this change.
2) I don't know what the increases of stats are from the EE/AEE scrolls. I believe the stat increase is fixed, but I am not sure about that. I am going to try the system out tomorrow when it is released. The enhancement UI shows you how much the stats will increase per star. I'll let you know once it is officially released.

3) Yes. No changes were made to these scrolls.

And yes, MEE'd equipment have blue stars instead of yellow. This doesn't matter for other regions since MEE scrolls remain exclusive to Korea.

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this is the result of increase of weapon power per star force's 1 star

0~ 49 - 1
50~99 - 2
100~149 - 3
150 ~ 199- 4
200 ~ 249 - 5
250 ~ 299 - 6
300 ~ 349 - 7
350 ~ 399 - 8
400 ~ 449 - 9
490 ~ 500 - 10 / after 15 star, increase stat is settle, even it's over 500 or 300

its increase is same as AEE, AND STANDARD OF POWER = WEAPON POWER(SCROLLED) - WEAPON'S ADDITIONAL POWER
what you guys call AEE, EE, MEE?

nah, i found it. but do u knew that? after stsr force, there' no bounder between EE, AEE. so i just tell you MEE. MEE's stat increase is depend on item level. so i'll tell you based on 150 items.

1 - stat:+19 power:same as EE
2 - stat:+21 power:same as EE
3 - stat:+23 power:same as EE
4 - stat +25 power:same as EE
5 - stat: +27 power:same as EE

after five, there's no increase of stat

6-power:EE (+9)
7-power:EE (+10)
8-power:EE(+11)
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12-power:EE(+15)

reason of high increase of mee is it makes item become superior. so when you inchant mee on item, its stat us increase like superior item. it was become clear by kms user. but it's error that it makes itme superior. but nexon didnt fix it. thx for this nexon. oh, ladt thing, star force's 25 star is simillar with MEE's 15 star

any question?

(A)EE = Advanced Equipment Enhancement

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HRd9LaImxk

I recorded enhancing the platinum cross hunter ring and the evolution sunglasses. All my other gear have upgrades left so I can't enhance it yet.
But from the video you can see what stats it gives each star to accessories.

So everyone should invest in some Tyrants for easy damage in a few months, eh?

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Originally Posted by Bacon

So everyone should invest in some Tyrants for easy damage in a few months, eh?

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Just a note, even the first star on a Tyrant costs 55m, and it only goes up from there.

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Originally Posted by HighOnMushrooms

Just a note, even the first star on a Tyrant costs 55m, and it only goes up from there.

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Aw darn it, I was hoping for Tyrants to deflate more :(

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Originally Posted by Spadow

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Very nice video. It looks like Nexon did something quite fantastic, for once. Really reminds me of DFO where there is a HUGE money sink, but it is basically a fair system. Now, change the rest of the game to be like this and you'll have yourself a great MMO!

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Originally Posted by HighOnMushrooms

Just a note, even the first star on a Tyrant costs 55m, and it only goes up from there.

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Yeah, I figured they'd do that.

Not sure if I like them forcing me to enhance to try these new maps. Are they worth it?

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Originally Posted by Arrol

Not sure if I like them forcing me to enhance to try these new maps. Are they worth it?

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Well with 2x I've gotten like 7%~8% in around 15~20 mins.
it's pretty nice
55k/61k exp per mob with decent spawn, they have 18/21m hp per mob.

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Originally Posted by Arrol

Not sure if I like them forcing me to enhance to try these new maps. Are they worth it?

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You mean they don't force you to enhance stuff for other things already?

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Originally Posted by TheBlackMage

Well with 2x I've gotten like 7%~8% in around 15~20 mins.
it's pretty nice
55k/61k exp per mob with decent spawn, they have 18/21m hp per mob.

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Wouldn't Twilight Perion be better than that later on?

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Originally Posted by PirateIzzy

Wouldn't Twilight Perion be better than that later on?

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Well I like both, from what I've seen this can out-do Twlight Perion under certain scenarios.

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Originally Posted by HighOnMushrooms

Just a note, even the first star on a Tyrant costs 55m, and it only goes up from there.

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Is there a Star Force table for Superior equipment anywhere?

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Originally Posted by Mazz

Is there a Star Force table for Superior equipment anywhere?

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I searched it up for you and I found this table:

http://i.imgur.com/LoVEMZn.png
From left to right it's Enhancement Stage, Success Rate, Destruction Rate, Failure Rate (downgrade), Cost (in mesos), Average Total Cost (in mesos), Average Total Cost (in 100m). I'm not sure if this is 100% accurate though, I can't seem to find what Superior item they tested on, and it's from the test server v. 1.2.509 but it should be ok, that patch was the final update to the enhancement system anyway.

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Originally Posted by HighOnMushrooms

I searched it up for you and I found this table:

http://i.imgur.com/LoVEMZn.png
From left to right it's Enhancement Stage, Success Rate, Destruction Rate, Failure Rate (downgrade), Cost (in mesos), Total Cost (in mesos), Total Cost (in 100m). I'm not sure if this is 100% accurate though, I can't seem to find what Superior item they tested on, and it's from the test server v. 1.2.509 but it should be ok, that patch was the final update to the enhancement system anyway.

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The sixth row is the average cost to reach that rank and total, not just the total.

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Originally Posted by Chicocl

The sixth row is the average cost to reach that rank and total, not just the total.

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Yeah I guess it would be more accurate to say its the 'average total cost', I'll fix that.

Oh wow, I assumed that the cost for Superior Equipment would rise exponentially.

The success rates for the first starts are quite terrible, but oh man, 35% for the last 8 stars is kind of amazing. Too bad there's no way to protect destruction for Superior Equipment over 7 stars.

I think they should lower the boom rate and increase the failure rate, It's quite high, It'd say a 1/4 less is a fair amount for higher levels, or let us use protection scrolls, but that would make the system way too broken.

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Originally Posted by HighOnMushrooms

I searched it up for you and I found this table:

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From left to right it's Enhancement Stage, Success Rate, Destruction Rate, Failure Rate (downgrade), Cost (in mesos), Average Total Cost (in mesos), Average Total Cost (in 100m). I'm not sure if this is 100% accurate though, I can't seem to find what Superior item they tested on, and it's from the test server v. 1.2.509 but it should be ok, that patch was the final update to the enhancement system anyway.

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Cool, thank you! It seems like it would be much cheaper to use the no boom AEEs + Guardian Scrolls in GMS.. dunno how 7+ star Tyrants happen in KMS though.

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Originally Posted by Mazz

Cool, thank you! It seems like it would be much cheaper to use the no boom AEEs + Guardian Scrolls in GMS.. dunno how 7+ star Tyrants happen in KMS though.

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Apparently they have no booms in the cash shop

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Originally Posted by Takebacker

Apparently they have no booms in the cash shop

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They have no booms in the cash shop in SEA, not in KMS. Their no-booms come from the same place ours do, gacha boxes.

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Originally Posted by Grey

They have no booms in the cash shop in SEA, not in KMS. Their no-booms come from the same place ours do, gacha boxes.

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No booms don't exist, unless some hacker/botter/hoarder has one from ages ago (roughly 2 years ago from feather boxes), and if they do they would sell it for billions well not anymore but yeah.

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Originally Posted by Mazz

Is there a Star Force table for Superior equipment anywhere?

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nah, sry for this truth. in basis tyrant, cost for 1 star is 50M. reallllly sry

so nexon noobproof EE and kills the economy-equivalent scrolls. 1 step closer to a singleplayer game.:f7:

what's next? potential bonus become multiplicative instead of additive?

suppose 8 equips got 24% potential each, it would be 192% additively and 559% multiplicatively. that's almost 3x more.

I wouldn't be surprised if 5th job end up being hyper 2.0 where it enhance your 4th jobs further and raise the dmg cap to 32 bits. :f3:

ms1 will become a single player private server (do everything yourself and holy power creep) while all the henehoes flock to ms2 :shine:

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Originally Posted by flydemonflyy

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Are you a potato chip? Cuz peach you salty. It's already a single-player game. Also no, they won't change potential system like that.

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Originally Posted by flydemonflyy

so nexon noobproof EE and kills the economy-equivalent scrolls. 1 step closer to a singleplayer game.:f7:

what's next? potential bonus become multiplicative instead of additive?

suppose 8 equips got 24% potential each, it would be 192% additively and 559% multiplicatively. that's almost 3x more.

I wouldn't be surprised if 5th job end up being hyper 2.0 where it enhance your 4th jobs further and raise the dmg cap to 32 bits. :f3:

ms1 will become a single player private server (do everything yourself and holy power creep) while all the henehoes flock to ms2 :shine:

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God forbid a game become less pay to win. Are you out of your mind?

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Originally Posted by Justin

God forgive a game become less pay to win. Are you out of your mind?

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if the p2w is a issue, private server is the way to go

also, no amount of fixes will bring back ms1 community. don't understand why nexon is wasting their time.

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Originally Posted by flydemonflyy

if the p2w is a issue, private server is the way to go

also, no amount of fixes will bring back ms1 community. don't understand why nexon is wasting their time.

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What makes you think they want to bring back the old community?

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Originally Posted by flydemonflyy

so nexon noobproof EE and kills the economy-equivalent scrolls. 1 step closer to a singleplayer game.:f7:

what's next? potential bonus become multiplicative instead of additive?

suppose 8 equips got 24% potential each, it would be 192% additively and 559% multiplicatively. that's almost 3x more.

I wouldn't be surprised if 5th job end up being hyper 2.0 where it enhance your 4th jobs further and raise the dmg cap to 32 bits. :f3:

ms1 will become a single player private server (do everything yourself and holy power creep) while all the henehoes flock to ms2 :shine:

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Excuse me.

Who are you again?

Maybe I missed the memo, but I'm going to ask anyway.

What happened to equips that already had stars on them prior to this system being added? Were they just left as is, or they were reset down to an unstarred state (either losing the previous bonus stats, or keeping them?)

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Originally Posted by Lozmaster

Maybe I missed the memo, but I'm going to ask anyway.

What happened to equips that already had stars on them prior to this system being added? Were they just left as is, or they were reset down to an unstarred state (either losing the previous bonus stats, or keeping them?)

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Willing to believe they're left as is, resetting them to an unstarred state would be a total plantain move on their part.

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Originally Posted by Arrol

Willing to believe they're left as is, resetting them to an unstarred state would be a total plantain move on their part.

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It depends, if the stat boosts are different from these, which they appear to be from spadows video, it could be more of a plantain move to not reset them, or recalculate the stats (at least to some extent).

i wonder if this will make tyrant equips inflate since they are cheap atm

Does anyone know what happens to lvl 100 weapons with more than 8 stars? The horrible choice of perfecting a 21% att craven comes kicking me in the butt with every new patch..

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Originally Posted by Takebacker

When items blow up you'll get a "scroll" that gives the blown up item's exact potential/bonus pot/presumably neb lines to use on something with the same name.

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In resume, you won't lose your item, no matter how many times you destroys, unless that item is obtained only from events.

oh dang, i guess this system is a good meso sink

http://i.imgur.com/GcFOpFY.png
20 star item! I think this confirms that 16 stars and higher give MEE-like stats, because this item's stats (58 attack, 55 magic attack) are crazy LOL.

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Originally Posted by HighOnMushrooms

http://i.imgur.com/GcFOpFY.png
20 star item! I think this confirms that 16 stars and higher give MEE-like stats, because this item's stats (58 attack, 55 magic attack) are crazy LOL.

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I'd be more convinced if we knew more about how much you get after 16.

Superior Item Enhancement Table
http://i.imgur.com/bWY3ZOu.png
You're Welcome

Does anyone know in GMS if 10 starring Tyrants now is more cost efficient than waiting for Star Force? Since the average total cost of each star is insanely expensive in Star Force.

Does this mean currently EE'd weapons are pomegranate compared to post-starforce EE'd weapons?

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Does this mean currently EE'd weapons are pomegranate compared to post-starforce EE'd weapons?

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I don't think so, besides if you really want to you can just explode your weapon and start over with enhances. I really hope they allow nebulites to remain on the equipment traces.

I know common class equipment get better bonuses, more stats aimed at your class rather than trying to randomly decide on a stat.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jh5JMAFlhAw

Is he lucky or did he play RNG?

I don't know if this has been asked before, but to transfer equipment trace stats does the new equipment HAVE to be clean? What if it has been scrolled once? Will the equipment traces still work?

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Originally Posted by G-Meister

I don't know if this has been asked before, but to transfer equipment trace stats does the new equipment HAVE to be clean? What if it has been scrolled once? Will the equipment traces still work?

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Pretty sure it doesn't matter if it's clean or not, I've been able to put scrolled equipment into the Equipment Trace tab just fine. I'd wait on some more concrete proof, though.

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Originally Posted by CakesXD

Pretty sure it doesn't matter if it's clean or not, I've been able to put scrolled equipment into the Equipment Trace tab just fine. I'd wait on some more concrete proof, though.

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Hokay, was preparing some equips along with their spares in anticipation for this update.

The testing shouldn't be too difficult; any low-level equipment should do it, eh?

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Originally Posted by G-Meister

Hokay, was preparing some equips along with their spares in anticipation for this update.

The testing shouldn't be too difficult; any low-level equipment should do it, eh?

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Don't you need to boom the item with Star Force? Means you'd have to get an item that can go past 12 stars.

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Originally Posted by G-Meister

I don't know if this has been asked before, but to transfer equipment trace stats does the new equipment HAVE to be clean? What if it has been scrolled once? Will the equipment traces still work?

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No clue if this counts, but when I boomed my sword while going for 15 stars, I transferred the equipment trace to a sword that had a pre-existing PB soul on it (otherwise clean). All the stats of my old sword transferred over, including my emp soul on my trace overriding the PB soul. I'm going to assume that you can use any piece of equipment.

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Originally Posted by Terebii

No clue if this counts, but when I boomed my sword while going for 15 stars, I transferred the equipment trace to a sword that had a pre-existing PB soul on it (otherwise clean). All the stats of my old sword transferred over, including my emp soul on my trace overriding the PB soul. I'm going to assume that you can use any piece of equipment.

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Ah, that's good news! Thanks for the info :)