Texas & Louisiana do not want to be part of the US

http://constitutionschool.com/2012/1...rom-the-union/

“The US continues to suffer economic difficulties stemming from the federal government’s neglect to reform domestic and foreign spending. The citizens of the US suffer from blatant abuses of their rights such as the NDAA, the TSA, etc. Given that the state of Texas maintains a balanced budget and is the 15th largest economy in the world, it is practically feasible for Texas to withdraw from the union, and to do so would protect it’s citizens’ standard of living and re-secure their rights and liberties in accordance with the original ideas and beliefs of our founding fathers which are no longer being reflected by the federal government.”

Think it'll happen?

An official response isn't the same thing as 'Oh yes, we're going to let you become an independent state' if they're trying to bank on that. :f7: On that note though, is Texas seriously the 15th largest economy in the world?

Hi Civil War.

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Originally Posted by Corn

Hi Civil War.

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Do let's get carried away.

5000 signatures on an online petition mean nothing.
Put it to a referendum, then we'll see.

They do this a lot, why is anyone surprised?

Just google "Texas threatening to secede"

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Seriously. Boy cries wolf.

Oh and this too.

Gotta love fear mongering. Believe me, there won't be a civil war, and Tejas isn't going anywhere.

Louisiana what? Considering they're looking to get around 400 million in additional funding from the federal government this year this is just hilarious. They're probably just pissed they're not getting more.

I don't have any concrete evidence to support the following statement and I am aware of the irony given the handling of Katrina but...

Good luck with that next hurricane new-country Louisiana.

At least if Texas leaves and Puerto Rico joins, you don't have to change your flag.

Let Texas secede. I'm sure Mexico would love to take them back in.

>implying secession is a thing anymore

Just like the boy who cried wolf, the wolf didn't eventually come though.

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Originally Posted by Coogi

Just like the boy who cried wolf, the wolf didn't eventually come though.

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What? The wolf did come eventually. That was the point of the story -- the wolf eventually came, but at that point the villagers didn't give a pomegranate about the boy anymore.

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Originally Posted by Secun

Let Texas secede. I'm sure Mexico would love to take them back in.

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No thanks, you can keep those who already ditched us. Besides, I don't think they would like our current non-religious goverment.

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Originally Posted by zantgx

http://constitutionschool.com/2012/1...rom-the-union/

“The US continues to suffer economic difficulties stemming from the federal government’s neglect to reform domestic and foreign spending. The citizens of the US suffer from blatant abuses of their rights such as the NDAA, the TSA, etc. Given that the state of Texas maintains a balanced budget and is the 15th largest economy in the world, it is practically feasible for Texas to withdraw from the union, and to do so would protect it’s citizens’ standard of living and re-secure their rights and liberties in accordance with the original ideas and beliefs of our founding fathers which are no longer being reflected by the federal government.”

Think it'll happen?

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Anyone else that's not from the USA find it completely ridiculous when people say things like this? Either way, if they want to live in their own little bubble I'd say let them.

I find it hilarious you people are taking this seriously.

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Originally Posted by Panacea

I find it hilarious you people are taking this seriously.

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...Well pancakes tend to flip flop...

This belongs in Shenanigans, not Current Events.

It's a load of bullpomegranate.

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Originally Posted by SaptaZapta

Do let's get carried away.

5000 signatures on an online petition mean nothing.
Put it to a referendum, then we'll see.

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Amen to that. Louisiana's aren't dumb enough to try to stand on their own. There's too much here supported by the U.S. that they can't live without, like the levees.

Besides, any whackjob pimento can create a petition on that site. Unless it actually came from the state government of either state it's meaningless twaddle and anyone assuming it bears any relation to the actual thoughts and feelings of the states it claims to represent with near negligible votes is an idiot.

If you look at "recent petitions" virtually every state has one now; https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petitions

Texas v. White makes secession incredibly hard (if not illegal; not entirely sure which, 19th century opinions are excessively verbose) anyways. Not to mention surveys show that most people don't want to leave the Union anyways.

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Originally Posted by Jamesie

(if not illegal; not entirely sure which, 19th century opinions are excessively verbose)

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Why would a seceded state have to follow laws written by a country they no longer belong to?

Texas has been threatening this for so long it's hard to take them seriously; if any secession occurs it will HAVE to be at least 10 states, in any case. The problem is, most states are already bankrupt and need federal money just to function; even if they seceded, if a few states that aren't in the red financially don't secede as well, they will have zero money and they will quickly deteriorate into third world status.

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Originally Posted by Flonne

Why would a seceded state have to follow laws written by a country they no longer belong to.

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Uh... because they currently do belong to it and have to follow its laws in order to secede without war. @Jamesie said that it would be difficult to secede, not that it would be difficult to get along after having already seceded and become independent.

Although, as you point out, that would be true too.

Texas threatens to secede like every other month, it's just a part of the culture here. I don't really think it possible, but then again it is possible.

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Uh... because they currently do belong to it and have to follow its laws in order to secede without war. @Jamesie said that it would be difficult to secede, not that it would be difficult to get along after having already seceded and become independent.

Although, as you point out, that would be true too.

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My main point was, if they are willing to go as far as that, they will already be prepared to go to war over it.

I wish Texas really would secede.

Not only would it mean the death of the Republican Party as they'll never get a president elected again, we wouldn't have them controlling what gets into our school textbooks, and we might actually advance as a country.

But alas, it won't happen.

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Originally Posted by Tay

Texas threatens to secede like every other month, it's just a part of the culture here. I don't really think it possible, but then again it is possible.

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Originally Posted by Endgame

I wish Texas really would secede.

Not only would it mean the death of the Republican Party as they'll never get a president elected again, we wouldn't have them controlling what gets into our school textbooks, and we might actually advance as a country.

But alas, it won't happen.

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Excuse me, Texas is quite successful. Even though I hate to admit it, Texas is a well off compared to the rest of the states. Politics and culture are a bit behind, but you'd be shocked at how liberal some places are.

I remember reading something about texas being self sustained as far as energy goes as well. Texas is kind of a big deal. Even though I hate to admit it. They could totally do this, but it doesn't work for the country.

We should let Texas go so they wage war with mexico :f3:

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Originally Posted by KhainiWest

We should let Texas go so they wage war with mexico :f3:

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We wouldn't wage war with them. I'm sure they would hate another Alamo.

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Originally Posted by Eliseo

We wouldn't wage war with them. I'm sure they would hate another Alamo.

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I don't recall mexico officially ending it...by official i mean "GG no re". LOL

The people continuing to discuss this after it's already been established to be little better than a prank with no actual government interest or support from either state are idiots.

http://southperry.net/fail.jpg

Thread closed for terminal stupidity.