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Inkwell Entry #15 - Battlemage! Return of the Storm
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Re: Inkwell Entry #15 - Battlemage! Return of the Storm
mother of god that's fast.
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Re: Inkwell Entry #15 - Battlemage! Return of the Storm
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Originally Posted by
TugboatWilly
mother of god that's fast.
Could Dark Tornado always grapple enemies like that?
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Re: Inkwell Entry #15 - Battlemage! Return of the Storm
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Originally Posted by
Arrol
Could Dark Tornado always grapple enemies like that?
No, And it was nowhere near that big either.
Makes me consider making a BaM again.
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Re: Inkwell Entry #15 - Battlemage! Return of the Storm
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Originally Posted by
Untradeable
No, And it was nowhere near that big either.
Makes me consider making a BaM again.
Neat, Moving slowly from support into more offense
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Re: Inkwell Entry #15 - Battlemage! Return of the Storm
It's like hurricane for a couple of seconds... though I may be way off.
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Re: Inkwell Entry #15 - Battlemage! Return of the Storm
Reminiscent of Phantom's Card Tempest somewhat.
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Oh no, imagine this in Korea's PvP....
But holy hell, that's fast.
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Re: Inkwell Entry #15 - Battlemage! Return of the Storm
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Originally Posted by
OmegazeroGA
Oh no, imagine this in Korea's PvP....
But holy hell, that's fast.
I doubt you'll be able to move or teleport while doing tornado so that makes it much less broken.
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Re: Inkwell Entry #15 - Battlemage! Return of the Storm
Looks like they just recolored Phantom's Card Tempest. But the pulling effect looks nice.
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Re: Inkwell Entry #15 - Battlemage! Return of the Storm
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Originally Posted by
Bribery
Looks like they just recolored Phantom's Card Tempest. But the pulling effect looks nice.
Card tempest was itself a recolor of tornado. >_>
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Re: Inkwell Entry #15 - Battlemage! Return of the Storm
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Originally Posted by
Takebacker
Card tempest was itself a recolor of tornado. >_>
But they were different skills nonetheless. Now they're practically identical.
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Re: Inkwell Entry #15 - Battlemage! Return of the Storm
Wow!
This is pretty much what i always wanted the Tornado skill to be. :D
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Originally Posted by
Takebacker
Card tempest was itself a recolor of tornado. >_>
No?
It wasn't a "recolour". Tornado floated around the length of your character and was able to be moved across the map, Card Tempest expanded based on how long it was held on and was immobile.
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Re: Inkwell Entry #15 - Battlemage! Return of the Storm
Da pineapple. That's one big Twister... & I was just talking about how they should make BaM's Twister vac mobs in B/L yesterday..
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I like it! The "sucking" monsters feature makes it much closer to what REAL tornados do.
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Sucking the monsters to you does seem a lot better than moving to them. I hope they have something exciting for wild hunters, they really need it.
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Well, I was on the edge about making a Battle Mage but this has convinced me.
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Originally Posted by
Locked
No?
It wasn't a "recolour". Tornado floated around the length of your character and was able to be moved across the map, Card Tempest expanded based on how long it was held on and was immobile.
A recolor doesn't imply the skills act the same and neither did i.
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Re: Inkwell Entry #15 - Battlemage! Return of the Storm
Holy, Tempted to refund my BaM
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Re: Inkwell Entry #15 - Battlemage! Return of the Storm
Maybe Battle Mages could get Staff Expert? They're the only Resistance without a 4th job Mastery.
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Originally Posted by
Takebacker
A recolor doesn't imply the skills act the same and neither did i.
Yeah, but "recolor" does imply that the skills look exactly the same minus color.
This new Twister doesn't look like Tempest of Cards either.
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Re: Inkwell Entry #15 - Battlemage! Return of the Storm
inb4 this is the era of AoE Hurricane-type skills.
Who needs "double hurricane" when you can just AoE all the things!?
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That's really cool! I prefer Tempest of Cards to this though, I wish this was more rough, it seems like there are way more layers with the Tempest animation. Wonder what else they're changing.
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Re: Inkwell Entry #15 - Battlemage! Return of the Storm
Watch wild hunters will get the saving grace of a mob skill while bowmasters still get pineappleed over.
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Originally Posted by
iAmFear
Yeah, but "recolor" does imply that the skills look exactly the same minus color.
This new Twister doesn't look like Tempest of Cards either.
Twister never looked like Tempest.
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Re: Inkwell Entry #15 - Battlemage! Return of the Storm
Why does that GIF seem like it's sped up like crazy?
Is it just me?
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Originally Posted by
Arrol
Twister never looked like Tempest.
Yeah, that's my point o.O
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Originally Posted by
Polantaris
Why does that GIF seem like it's sped up like crazy?
Is it just me?
Yeah, I feel that way too.
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Re: Inkwell Entry #15 - Battlemage! Return of the Storm
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Originally Posted by
fodjgngf
Watch wild hunters will get the saving grace of a mob skill while bowmasters still get pineappleed over.
in addition let's give every class lasers and hurricane skills
xd
but anyway this is pineappleing amazing, it's an actual TORNADO pulling things in
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Re: Inkwell Entry #15 - Battlemage! Return of the Storm
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Originally Posted by
Pink Bean
in addition let's give every class lasers and hurricane skills
xd
but anyway this is pineappleing amazing, it's an actual TORNADO pulling things in
Snatchnado.
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Oh goody, more buffing, just what this game needs!
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Re: Inkwell Entry #15 - Battlemage! Return of the Storm
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Originally Posted by
MrTouchnGo
Oh goody, more buffing, just what this game needs!
Such is the way of "power creeping", son.
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Re: Inkwell Entry #15 - Battlemage! Return of the Storm
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Originally Posted by
fodjgngf
Watch wild hunters will get the saving grace of a mob skill while bowmasters still get pineappleed over.
multi-hit mob hurricane
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Originally Posted by
Takebacker
I doubt you'll be able to move or teleport while doing tornado so that makes it much less broken.
Well, the current battle mage tornado let the user move slowly and do teleports.
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Originally Posted by
Teppi
multi-hit mob hurricane
Ultimate Drive.
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Re: Inkwell Entry #15 - Battlemage! Return of the Storm
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Originally Posted by
Arrol
Ultimate Drive.
Ultimate Drive mechanics for Sonic Roar!
... Thought of this idea ages ago
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Well they usually go bowmaster first and then the rest of the clones end up getting it... :/
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Re: Inkwell Entry #15 - Battlemage! Return of the Storm
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Originally Posted by
Arrol
Ultimate Drive.
its not ranged, and only 2 hit. i mean like 8 hits =P =P
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Re: Inkwell Entry #15 - Battlemage! Return of the Storm
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Originally Posted by
Dark Link
Such is the way of "power creeping", son.
You obviously don't understand power creeping when you're complaining about the weakest class in the game getting buffed.
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Re: Inkwell Entry #15 - Battlemage! Return of the Storm
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Originally Posted by
JoeTang
You obviously don't understand power creeping when you're complaining about the weakest class in the game getting buffed.
You obviously don't understand the meaning of "Resistance Reorganization" when BaM isn't the only class getting buffed.
Lol @ putting words in my mouth.
I never once complained about this "revamp".
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If they do the same thing to Battle Mages that they did to Evans I'm going to be so pissed.
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Originally Posted by
Dark Link
You obviously don't understand the meaning of "Resistance Reorganization" when BaM isn't the only class getting buffed.
Lol @ putting words in my mouth.
I never once complained about this "revamp".
MrTouchnGo is complaining, power creeping is a negative thing, you're agreeing with him. BaM is by far the weakest class in the game. Wild Hunters are significantly worse than other archers, and have one of the weakest multitarget capacities in the entire game. Mechanics suck.
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Re: Inkwell Entry #15 - Battlemage! Return of the Storm
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Originally Posted by
JoeTang
Wild Hunters are significantly worse than other archers, and have one of the weakest multitarget capacities in the entire game.
Yes, their mobbing sucks, but they're better in 1v1 scenarios than BM and MM.
So them being [potentially] the strongest bossers in the game means they suck? ok
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I can't help but think that all that freaking calculation about who is stronger than whom only helps boost Nexon thought that we need more of these revamps. Prolly if put in a time perspective, BaM is only a few seconds behind when killing the same monsters and with the same fundings as the classes on top.
Am I the only one that thought of from watching that gift?
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Dark Link
Yes, their mobbing sucks, but they're better in 1v1 scenarios than BM and MM.
No they're not.
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Originally Posted by
Dark Link
So them being [potentially] the strongest bossers in the game means they suck? ok
I don't understand why you would quantify it with [potentially] because they're lower than Phantom, Dual Blade, Mercedes, and Corsair, with worse utility, they have average at best single target %/s, terrible multitarget %/s, low base attack, low attack speed, and can only wield one weapon potential.
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byakugan
I can't help but think that all that freaking calculation about who is stronger than whom only helps boost Nexon thought that we need more of these revamps. Prolly if put in a time perspective, BaM is only a few seconds behind when killing the same monsters and with the same fundings as the classes on top.
BaMs have the slowest attack speed, range, and alpha strike of any magician, they would by far train the slowest unless they could have Reapers in every platform.
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Re: Inkwell Entry #15 - Battlemage! Return of the Storm
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JoeTang
No they're not.
Bro.
Everyone is stronger than BMs. Come on now.
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Re: Inkwell Entry #15 - Battlemage! Return of the Storm
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Originally Posted by
JoeTang
I don't understand why you would quantify it with [potentially] because they're lower than Phantom, Dual Blade, Mercedes, and Corsair, with worse utility, they have average at best single target %/s, terrible multitarget %/s, low base attack, low attack speed, and can only wield one weapon potential.
Wow, even with all their summons hitting beyond cap and unlimted siege, they're still low tier?
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Re: Inkwell Entry #15 - Battlemage! Return of the Storm
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Originally Posted by
Arrol
Wow, even with all their summons hitting beyond cap and unlimted siege, they're still low tier?
Tiers are meant on inherent skills and such, not 999999999999999999 range.
If it's JoeTang talking about DPS stuff, I would just trust what he says to be true.
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Re: Inkwell Entry #15 - Battlemage! Return of the Storm
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Originally Posted by
Kaasoljoyyx
If it's JoeTang talking about DPS stuff, I would just trust what he says to be true.
%/s? Of course. DPS? Not as much.
I still agree with him on this though. Mechs might not have the damage but they sure have the mobility outside tank (which is ridiculous, by the way) as well as above average party support.
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Takebacker
%/s? Of course. DPS? Not as much.
I still agree with him on this though. Mechs might not have the damage but they sure have the mobility outside tank (which is ridiculous, by the way) as well as above average party support.
There is a very thin line between %/s, DPS and HPS.
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sorry if this is kinda off topic but... what happened with maplestory 3ds?
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Originally Posted by
Locked
There is a very thin line between %/s, DPS and HPS.
Arguable, but it's not like i would know.
And oh yeah, my bad on the aesthetics s'hit guise.
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Re: Inkwell Entry #15 - Battlemage! Return of the Storm
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danielcatu
sorry if this is kinda off topic but... what happened with maplestory 3ds?
afaik it's still in development as of march. Its probably taking longer than expected, i mean you remember how long Maplestory DS took to make, and then it didnt even make it to the west. I was sad about this.
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Re: Inkwell Entry #15 - Battlemage! Return of the Storm
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Originally Posted by
Takebacker
%/s? Of course. DPS? Not as much.
I still agree with him on this though. Mechs might not have the damage but they sure have the mobility outside tank (which is ridiculous, by the way) as well as above average party support.
Their DPS is lower than the classes I listed because they have lower base attack, lower buffs, lower (or equal vs Corsair) defense ignore, lower hits/s, and lower %/s.
Also, I never claimed they were low tier, just that they were not as strong as the classes I listed. Their actual hits per second for single target comes close to the listed classes, but that only applies under the assumption that everyone hits damage cap every time. As far as I know, they have the second lowest damage per hit end-game attack in the game (Captain's Dignity is the lowest?) which means they require one of the highest base ranges to reach damage cap.
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Re: Inkwell Entry #15 - Battlemage! Return of the Storm
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Originally Posted by
Untradeable
afaik it's still in development as of march. Its probably taking longer than expected, i mean you remember how long Maplestory DS took to make, and then it didnt even make it to the west. I was sad about this.
oh right I totally forgot MSDS took literally YEARS
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Re: Inkwell Entry #15 - Battlemage! Return of the Storm
Really, a gif to represent the in-game speed of a skill?, sorry but there's no way that can be accurate.
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Re: Inkwell Entry #15 - Battlemage! Return of the Storm
Now that we have seen the revamp, can this thread be closed as it is no longer needed?
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Re: Inkwell Entry #15 - Battlemage! Return of the Storm
Is still in KMST it's possibly not over.