This is the official Pokemon Black 2 and White 2 thread.
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This is the official Pokemon Black 2 and White 2 thread.
http://www.serebii.net/black2white2/blackbox.jpg
http://www.serebii.net/kyuremforms2.jpg
Tweet from the guy. It says Pokemon Black 2 and White 2 are coming this June, and are compatible with the DS.Quote:
Originally Posted by Junichi Masuda
http://www.serebii.net/kyuremforms2.jpg
So.. it's not a third? It's a third and fourth? What
So... two 'third' versions...?
Welp, looks like these new forms will appear in the next movie
Spoiler
Also, the Short is called: Meloetta's Sparkling Recital (メロエッタのキラキラリサイタル)
lol. They're really just milking it now...
Now this is just getting silly.
*Table flips.*
I could have maybe understood two versions if they upgraded it for the 3DS or something but 2 more DS games?
Also they look ugly and silly.
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Originally Posted by Jon
Two new legendary "forms" look like a fan-made fusion of kyruem and the original versions legendaries.
I stopped thinking about playing another pokemon game after sapphire and ruby, and this is not appealing either
...dude wat?
i'll get it anyways but... wat?
how do those alternate formes even work o.O
Huh. Better sexify the battle trains, I want more ways to battle, and I want them now! That reminds me, R/S remakes plox!
They'll probably do a R/S remake on the 3DS since their remakes are almost always on their next gen handheld.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dredragon
I think they might be like, real sequels. Black 2 has Zekrom (in Black, N took Zekrom) and White 2 has Reshiram (in White, N took Reshiram). :O
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Originally Posted by Solarboy
Completely speculation
I haven't played it in a while, but i think the storyline for kyurem was something along the lines of "reshiram + zekrom were created when kyurem was split, hence why kyurem is in a weakened state"Quote:
Originally Posted by Moldyvort
Like I said, I forgot exactly how it goes but reshiran + zekrom were definently derived from kyurem somehow.
<insert fry meme>Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon
also, i want secret bases back QQ
http://images.4chan.org/vp/src/1330214184254.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Kaasoljoyyx
So...what typing would they be? Ice/Electric and Ice/Fire?
Electric and Fire, yes. Not sure on the rest of the typing (Ice/Other or not).Quote:
Originally Posted by Corn
Watch them add triple typing just for Kyurem and f'uck everyone over.Quote:
Originally Posted by Corn
So, purely speculation and this is without having played B&W, but it seems to me like Kyurem will need Reshiram and Zekrom in a Dragon Ball Cell fashion. Like, he needs to absorb them or fuse with them to become the final form again. The forms we've been shown are like 2nd Stage, and if you are in either of those forms you ''absorb'' the other Pokemon left and get to the 3rd and final form.
Also, the setting will be Unova, but as Jon said, you'll get access to Hoenn. Maybe ''Gray'' later will be the definitive version of Pokemon (taking their word that the won't make NEW main series games for a while), and you'll get to see a world map and travel to all regions again. /wishfulthinking
Tweet from Serebii.
EDIT: Source is Masuda's Twitter:Quote:
Originally Posted by SerebiiNet
EDIT2: Masuda just Twitted about the games and names in English:Quote:
Originally Posted by Junichi Masuda
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Originally Posted by Junichi Masuda
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Originally Posted by Junichi Masuda
If reshiram goes ice/fire ima be sad =/
x4 weak to stealth rocks for competitive battling side =(
I suppose i'll get the opposite version to what i did last time (which would be Black 2)
I'm far more excited about the other changes or additions they might be making to the game, can't wait for more info to be released.
Oh God, this would be beautiful. But wouldn't you also it's also reasonable to say that the colors just reflect the typings of the mascots? Red and blue are associated with Reshiram's flames and Zekrom's lightning respectively :XQuote:
Originally Posted by Jon
It doesn't explicitly say Kyurem. It does say there was an original single Pokemon they were split from when the two brothers argued, but that's as far as it goes. Could these forms be Kyurem's original form(s)? Perhaps. I would like to see more of an explanation on it, because what is actually said about Kyurem is that it came from a comet in space and used to come up from the crater to eat villagers and Pokemon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaasoljoyyx
I...what the hell?
I really don't know what to think about this.
If these games have the same storyline than Black and White, this is a scam. I don't really know why they can't just make a semi remake of all third games of every generation and put them on one game (or just a character traveling across them and getting involved in a war with all the bad boys teams), they are running out of ideas, they should just make a big remake of all series for the 3DS, imagine this:
You start at pallet town, you can choose between the classic three pokemons (charmander, squirtle, bulbasaur), you do everything from pokemon yellow (except getting other starters) and then go to jhoto, There you can choose another starter and do everything from Crystal (the best version IMHO), and the same occurs in all other regions (hoenn, the platinium one and this one), this way they can just make a console selling game that will last for a good moment and they don't have to invent some stupid ideas like pokemon fusion....
How would a direct sequel even work? would the character just randomly decide to leave all their pokémon behind and go after N? or would it be a different character in the future? (far more likely)
If it is indeed set in the future, then i suppose they wouldn't have to make a new region to explore, they could just show how the world has changed in the whatever-amount of years since the first game, such as new paths opening, new towns, changed pokémon locations and such.
Edit: No wait, i bet they'll go the way of Final Fantasy XIII and introduce time travel, haha.
They could make a new region but still allow access to Unova, like Gold/Silver did with Kanto.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razmos
Could also be set in the past and show how kyurem split.
I really hope there IS a new region, i really didn't like Unova, the way it was arranged like a hexagon was just horrible.
the new game could use a copy of the save file from pokemon Black/white and transfer your pokemons but i don't think it will be a sequel.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razmos
There would be no challenge in that whatsoever then, not in collecting, or levelling or.. anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chicocl
That makes me realize: What about gym leaders? if this really is a direct sequel with the same character, there would be no gym leaders or elite 4 to beat. It's kinda weird to think about it
We all know it won't be a direct sequel.
PLEASE BE TRUE ANYWAY
This is pineappleing awesome.
Glad Kyushiram doesn't have that pubic hair.
Er... how/why do we know that? It's the first mainseries title with a 2. :f6:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dredragon
Does anyone have the 3DS or even the DS? I haven't played a gameboy since middle school I think...let alone console games in years. Are they any good?
i love my DS phat, still don't have a 3ds, no real reason to get one so far, but if fire emblem 3DS comes out...Quote:
Originally Posted by Savage
not sure if trollingQuote:
Originally Posted by Savage
Not trolling haha I'm serious.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob
3DS here. Yes, worth the months of starvation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Savage
So much to expect from these guys I can't even... lol I can't even give form to an expectation. All I'm dying to hear of is the existence of a new Battle Frontier with diverse facilities and a good-close-enough/way-more-awesome Frontier Brain Battle Music ala HG/SS one.
The games are prequels, the new forms of kyurem are actually the state between the separation of zekrom and reshiram from him.
Good to know. I've been dying to get back into some type of handheld/console gaming and I think the 3DS may be a good start. Are the old DS games compatible with the 3DS (I'm assuming they are since Nintendo has done that in the past)?Quote:
Originally Posted by Yorckie
How soon do you guys think they'll release 3DS versions of Sapphire and Ruby or other DS games?
They will probably release them in about 1-2 years. And yes, the DS games can be played on the 3DS.
It's not a 3DS game?... Really? That's a major downer.
It was bad enough that they didn't hold the original Black and white backa month and make them 3DS launch games, but making the sequels DS games too, almost a year and a half (when these actually come out) after the 3DS launch is just stupid.
MFW:
DAFUQ. DAFUQDAFUQDAFUQ.
This is confusing.
It's DS, not 3DS? No need to buy another console.
I, as a proud DS owner, am happy another NormalDS game comes out. It's not THAT suprising, because required to buy ultra-new console for follow-up game of a DS game just kinda trashes the storyline.
Interested.fact
you kidding me? i don't want to be forced to buy a new console just to play pokemon, the fact that i can play it in my regular DS is probably the main reason i'll be getting it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lozmaster
You don't want to buy a new console just to play pokemon? Then why aren't you still only playing pokemon red/blue/yellow? You don't buy a new console JUST to play any single game, I agree. But using 8 year old hardware compared to the 1 year old 3DS is moronic at best.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShinkuDragon
"Trashes the storyline"?Sequels on follow up consoles? IT'S INSANE AND COULD NEVER WORK.Quote:
I, as a proud DS owner, am happy another NormalDS game comes out. It's not THAT suprising, because required to buy ultra-new console for follow-up game of a DS game just kinda trashes the storyline.
Just as crazy as Fire emblem: Radiant Dawn and Path of Radiance being on seperate consoles. Or Golden sun 1/2 and Dark dawn. Or Gold/silver (GB with GBC enhancements) and Crystal (GBC only). Or Metroid prime 3 being a wii only game.
Fact is, they could have made a significantly better game by making it for the 3DS. The original Black and white had no buisness being original DS games in the first place, there is just no excuse for the follow ups to be DS games this far into the 3DS lifetime.
Betting my money that Kyerum is super evil and took over Zekrom and Reshiram like a virus.
I know it's a long shot, but it's not entirely impossible that they won't introduce new pokémon in these games, it's already been hinted that Kyurem Black and Kyurem White are separate pokémon.
It's never happened before, but there has never been a direct sequel either.
This is quite exciting. First time we've ever had a chance for proper sequels. I hope they do go that route and expand on the story, since Black and White are by far the best versions storywise.
Kinda want a few new ones to come out, but only if they're actually designed well(IE not a f'ucking ice cream cone or bag of trash). s:Quote:
Originally Posted by Razmos
Either way, probably going to get one of these, after buying B/W 1(put that off cause of s'hit designs) to see the story between them.
because i can name at least 10 other games in each handheld that i've gotten and enjoyed, the 3ds still doesn't have a single one, only 2 and they're in development, besides, this would be the "third" game of the series.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lozmaster
as for your other examples, guess what all of the consoles you mentioned had? that's right, backwards compatibility, i could play my red and blue on my GBC, and GBA, i could play my ruby and emerald on my DS (annoyed they didn't allow for playing of GBC games), same with pearl and platinum, and now black and it's "third game"
and unlike golden sun, i didn't have to wait SEVEN YEARS for this sequel. (and i'm still annoyed at no backwards compatibility to my lost age)
if the next pokemon is on the 3DS, sure, i don't have any complaints, but if black/white started on the DS, they damn better end on the DS, don't forget the DS is the first one to have freaking 4 different versions, that's too much imo.
Wont be surprised if Nintendo release both games on DS AND 3DS.
While it's nice that people that don't have a 3DS can enjoy this game too, I think it's a bit silly that they decided against making these games one of the 3DS killer aps, which would sell a lot of the system, possibly have some more people buy Pokémon Rumble Blast and set up a nice install base for whatever game they decide to release on the 3DS.
I'm personally going to hold of on any speculation until we get a few more details. Too many wild ideas going around right now. One thing is for sure though: these games will reuse the Black & White engine.
I would, that wouldn’t make any sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Myles
Also on the American website it specifically says the game can be played in 2D on the 3DS. Since you know the silly consumer still doesn’t know the 3DS can play DS games.
It could go down like that. Remember pokemon mystery dungeon red and blue? One was for ds, and one was for gameboy.
I hope that we have new rivals, I need more challenging story battles to happen. I want more ways to grind, getting to level 100 was kinda bad.
I hope they add a battle frontier like area too, that would be nice. :)
"Pokémon Black/White 2" Dated for Fall in North America, Europe
By the way, I SERIOUSLY can't believe how many people think this is a "remake", "rehash", or whatever. I know it hasn't been explicitly confirmed, but it's pretty much known that this is a SEQUEL.
How difficult is it to get it? I mean, the games are called "Black 2" and "White 2"! TWO. DOS. 二. DEUX. DUE. 두. ZWEI. DU. DUO. два. DOUS. दो. tvĺ. สอง. IKI. HAI. KAKSI. δυ*. TO. DHÁ.
TWO.
I love you.Quote:
Originally Posted by yoosergio
The Pokemon community is full of absolute retards who cling to their fanfictions and wishful thinking.Quote:
Originally Posted by yoosergio
It's like when people kept saying the dumb pony Pokemon could be the 3rd mascot instead of Kyurem. Like.... how..?
I really hope they include Hoenn and a continuation of N's story. His motives fit perfectly with what's been happening in Hoenn.
I honestly won't be surprised if this takes place in Hoenn. However, if they actually continue N's story instead of re-hashing the story from R/S/E (In other words, have a new story in an old region like they probably could have done multiple times over by now), I may as well throw my money at Game Freak right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sarah
http://i.imgur.com/EO8gs.gif
Where the hell are my Hoenn remakes
I thought there would only be one alt of Kyurem what is this asdfadsf
They should continue from the point where N flies off, and let you use N in Hoenn. ^^
How does N's story even relate to the 3rd Gen plot, or even, anything that went down in Hoenn? That was more like a "let's expand the land/sea, throw a facade of making it better for people/pokemon but really it's for my own weird land/sea fetish" and not really...relating to N's motives.Quote:
Originally Posted by Secun
If you'd read what I said, I'm saying that I'd buy the game immediately if it didn't deal with the story of R/S/E.Quote:
Originally Posted by Baklava
Also I was somewhat confused at the time because Serebii's chat is a terrible place to be when new games are announced.
I quoted the wrong post, apparently. I meant to quote Sarah's post.Quote:
Originally Posted by Secun
That's what I get for posting at 2 AM.
I read on a certain Pokemon site a comment that made a lot of since. they said that with KyuRem ReshiRam and ZekRom being so similar in their endings, it could be plausable that the two new version mascots could be named KyuRam and KyuRom:poast:
They are called "White Kyurem" and "Black Kyurem", they are also alternate forms and not "new" pokemon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chainspark
Aqua and Magma were both about using Pokemon to save their regions. I've already explained the importance of the plot of RSE in previous posts but I'm sorry that you are so culturally ignorant that you think it was just a silly "fetish." Japan struggles with both flooding and volcanoes (it is in the ring of fire) and therein lies the significance of the plot of those games, and the use of those pokemon. A character as "deep" as N fits perfectly into such a situation, as he wants to free all pokemon of human desires, and of all the games the desires of the use of Groudon and ...big blue name I can't remember... are the two least shallow in the series.Quote:
Originally Posted by Baklava
For sequel material, it is the ONLY logical conclusion that isn't shallow as pineappleing "I want to beat 8 gyms in this area!"
@Sarah
Kyogre?
Cool, let's take vague details in a plot, relate it to real life, and call someone out for not noticing said vague details.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sarah
Excuse me for not noticing said details about a game I haven't played for almost 10 years. June 2003 was a long time ago, and I couldn't give enough of a pomegranate about deep plotlines back then.
Honestly from what I remember, R/S seemed pretty poorly manufactured in terms of deeper plot significance. They only scratched the surface and didn't bother elaborating any further.
Maxie wanted to expand the land by abusing Groudon, Archie wanted to expand the sea by abusing Kyogre, both for the simple reason of "it'll be better lolz." As far as I remember, they didn't even appear anymore in the plot after you defeated/caught the beasts.
It's surely everywhere by now, but no one posted about it, so... CoroCoro may give some info out this week about these guys. Let's pray for some tasty details.
Well it's been confirmed that it's definitely a sequel, not a "Pokemon gray" kinda deal.
Also a Keldeo event which unlocks something in the sequels.
Finally a sequel! I wonder what events happen after...
Not at all, team aqua hated people for polluting the waters so fill the world with water get rid of land dwelling people problem solved. They were motivated by their love for water pokemon. Team manga on the other hand wanted the land for more space for people and pokemon to roam about. The underlying issue would be overpopulation so they decide lets tap into all that land a the sea floor.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sarah
N just want pokemon to be completely free of people.
That was the point, N would be against both Team Magma and Team AquaQuote:
Originally Posted by The Great One
Slightly off topic: These games being a R/S/E remake/tie-in is actually impossible thus far. The events of R/S/E happened at the same time as FR/LG, and if you import a Pokémon from a 3rd gen game up to a 5th gen game, it says "Arrived after a long journey through time," so the events with Teams Aqua and Magma would have been done and over with, so I doubt they have anything to do with these games.
Also there's a "2" on the titles.
(If these somehow tie into the "plot" of R/S/E, I call time paradoxes.)
We live in crazy times and crazy days people.
So apparently a new form will be revealed next week.
Any speculation?
Seems like everything is getting new forms, possibly fusions of the musketeers? or a new genesect/keldeo?
According to Amazon Japan, Black Kyurem and White Kyurem retain the Dragon/Ice typing of original Kyurem.
This sucks.
Lame, I thought the forms were gonna be Ice/Electric and Ice/Fire.Quote:
Originally Posted by Secun
still waiting on a pokemon with that list type QQQuote:
Originally Posted by Evolite
Bad move Game Freak...
Surely the forms' base stats will be better, but it would be fabulous to get 'em for an added valor, rather than just for the looks, like an unique typing or signature moves. Now that the typing is the same pomegranate, which leaves the firey and sparky radiation thing visible on the formes as for-the-lulz, if they introduce signatures we'll have three legendaries with no STAB signature, counting Genesect; personally, this would be a horrid turn off.
Ice/Fire would not like Stealth Rock at all :( At least it can give Charizard some companyQuote:
Originally Posted by ShinkuDragon
Movesets would be interesting to see though, especially on a something with better offensive than Lanturn/Ludicolo (Ludicolo is special in his own way. Super subway made me hate him)
don't remind me of ludicolo, that thing packs something else, but an ice-fire special attacker? that would be quite the hybrid and a force to be reckoned with if you get him in before stealth rock, especially in ubers with dragons everywhere, where steel, fighting and fire moves aren't exactly common.Quote:
Originally Posted by WizPhil
But something can't logically be ice and fire. Sure Pokemon breaks logic most times, but ice/fire defies even common logic. D:
my charizard didn't learn how to fly until pokemon yellow, while gyarados was all "trolololol"Quote:
Originally Posted by Baklava
also, don't make me bring out my pokedex! that thing's full of BS.
If the Zekrom-Kyurem thing ended up being Ice/Electric it's coverage would be amazing.
Well it isn't. Both new Kyurem are Dragon/Ice types.Quote:
Originally Posted by HeroDDC
I know lol, that's why i said if. But I hope they get stat boosts too and don't just stay their original stats. It'd be disappointing if all they got was a new move and that's it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lozmaster
Ice/Fire and Ice/Electric are still easily possible depending on what abilities it may have, or have you all forgotten Darmanitan?
Each of them have a signature. Unfortunately, both of them kind of suck.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yorckie
They're ice-type variations of Sky Attack, with a chance of causing burn/paralysis, respectively.
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wi...e_Shock_(move)
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Ice_Burn_(move)
Eww. That's pretty lame, I'm not a fan of highly telegraphed moves like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Phoenix Wright
Oh lol, after posting that it came to me signatures with added effects ala Scald, covering the secondary type, a bit. I can live with these... thank you for the info. :f2:Quote:
Originally Posted by Phoenix Wright
Gyarados is a flying dragon yet can't learn Fly. WHY?!Quote:
Originally Posted by ShinkuDragon
for starters, he isn't even a dragon! he's waterflying! like that makes sense, especially when you see him in pokemon stadium!Quote:
Originally Posted by 案山子
He actually IS a dragon, but not ''Dragon'' type.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShinkuDragon