[1.2.399] Akyrum (2)

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2011-08-16, 04:20 AM
Fiel

[1.2.399] Akyrum (2)

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(PvE) Skill Changes

Aran (I)
Combat Step:
Changed - x (1000 --> 1100) (750+50*level --> 850+50*level)

Evan (VIII) (100-120)
Earthquake:
Changed - damage (550 --> 640) (470+4*level --> 560+4*level)

텔레포트 마스터리:
Changed - Description (스킬을 활성화하면 MP를 추가 소모하는 대신 텔레포트 지점의 적들에게 데미지와 함께 기절 효과를 적용시킬 수 있다. 또한 텔레포트 이동거리가 영구적으로 증가한다.\n스킬 사용 시 효과가 활성화되고 재사용 시 비활성화되는 #c온오프 스킬#\n필요 스킬 : #c텔레포트 15레벨 이상# --> 스킬을 활성화하면 MP를 추가 소모하는 대신 텔레포트 지점의 적들에게 데미지와 함께 기절 효과를 적용시킬 수 있다. 또한 텔레포트 이동거리가 영구적으로 증가한다.\n스킬 사용 시 효과가 활성화되고 재사용 시 비활성화되는 #c온오프 스킬#\n필요 스킬 : #c텔레포트 20레벨 이상#)

Evan (X) (160-200)
Blessing of the Onyx:
Changed - emad (30 --> 35) (5+level --> 10+level)

Onyx's Will:
Changed - Level readout (MP #mpCon 소비, #time초간 피격 데미지의 x% 감소, #prop% 확률로 넉백되지 않음. --> MP #mpCon 소비, #time초간 피격 데미지의 #x% 감소, #prop% 확률로 넉백되지 않음.)

Demon Slayer (IV)
Metamorphosis:
Changed - Level readout (HP #hpCon, 포스 #forceCon 소비, #time초 동안 데미지 #damR%, 최대 HP #x%상승, 주변의 적들을 #damage%의 데미지로 자동 공격 --> HP #hpCon, 포스 #forceCon 소비, #time초 동안 데미지 #damR%, 최대 HP #indieMhpR%상승, 주변의 적들을 #damage%의 데미지로 자동 공격)
New - indieMhpR (20) (5+roundUp(level/2))
Removed - x

Item

Consume
http://www.happychinchilla.info/Sout...m/02031011.png
엘나스 이동 주문서
엘나스로 이동할 수 있는 주문서이다. 사용하면 엘나스로 바로 이동된다.
Sale price: 1 meso
Items per slot: 1
Tradeblock
Cannot resell to merchants

Mob (Changed)

121-130
http://www.happychinchilla.info/Sout...ob/8220016.png
타락한 와이번
Level: 123
HP: [222,000 --> 111,000]
EXP: [NEW --> 2024]
Physical Attack: 1937
Magical Attack: 1930
Knockback: 1800
WDEF: 20%
MDEF: 20%
Avoid: 115
Accuracy: 423

http://www.happychinchilla.info/Sout...ob/8220017.png
타락한 코니언
Level: 125
HP: [230,000 --> 115,000]
EXP: [NEW --> 2078]
Physical Attack: 2108
Magical Attack: 2061
Knockback: 1800
WDEF: 20%
MDEF: 20%
Avoid: 115
Accuracy: 423
Elements: Poison strong

http://www.happychinchilla.info/Sout...ob/8220018.png
타락한 스켈레곤
Level: 127
HP: [240,000 --> 120,000]
EXP: [NEW --> 2149]
Physical Attack: 2295
Magical Attack: 2244
Knockback: 2000
WDEF: 20%
MDEF: 20%
Avoid: 115
Accuracy: 423
Elements: Holy weak, Dark strong
Undead

http://www.happychinchilla.info/Sout...ob/8220019.png
타락한 켄타우로스
Level: 124
HP: [226,000 --> 113,000]
EXP: [4102 --> 2051]
Physical Attack: 2116
Magical Attack: 2030
Knockback: 1800
WDEF: 20%
MDEF: 20%
Avoid: 115
Accuracy: 423
Elements: Holy weak, Dark strong
Undead

http://www.happychinchilla.info/Sout...ob/8860003.png
뒤틀린 어둠 속의 자신
Level: 129
HP: 550,000,000
EXP: 884,000
Physical Attack: [5000 --> 10]
Magical Attack: [2500 --> 10]
Knockback: 100
WDEF: [55 --> 50]%
MDEF: [52 --> 50]%
Avoid: 144
Accuracy: 500
Boss

131-140
http://www.happychinchilla.info/Sout...ob/8860002.png
이계의 사제
Level: 140
HP: 5,000,000
EXP: 155,500
Physical Attack: 4370
Magical Attack: 4575
Knockback: [2800 --> 999,999]
WDEF: 99%
MDEF: 30%
Avoid: 115
Accuracy: 423
Auto-Aggro
Party Bonus
Boss

161-170
http://www.happychinchilla.info/Sout...ob/8220020.png
타락한 시간의 수호대장
Level: 164
HP: 370,000
EXP: [5653 --> 6783]
Physical Attack: 4452
Magical Attack: 4847
Knockback: 5000
WDEF: 20%
MDEF: 20%
Avoid: 180
Accuracy: 640
Elements: Poison weak, Ice weak, Lightning weak

http://www.happychinchilla.info/Sout...ob/8220021.png
타락한 시간의 신관
Level: 166
HP: 390,000
EXP: [5916 --> 7099]
Physical Attack: 4755
Magical Attack: 5627
Knockback: 5500
WDEF: 5%
MDEF: 5%
Avoid: 180
Accuracy: 640
Elements: Poison weak, Ice weak, Lightning weak

http://www.happychinchilla.info/Sout...ob/8860000.png
아카이럼
Level: 170
HP: 2,100,000,000
EXP: 50,000,000
Physical Attack: [10,000 --> 30,000]
Magical Attack: 20,000
Knockback: 99,999,999
WDEF: 55%
MDEF: 60%
Avoid: 300
Accuracy: 600
Auto-Aggro
Boss

Character (Changed)

Accessory

Pendant
http://www.happychinchilla.info/Sout...r/01122157.png
베테랑 크로스 팬던트
Req Level: 105
STR: +5
DEX: +5
INT: +5
LUK: +5
HP: +70
MP: +70
WDEF: +50
MDEF: +50
Magic Attack: +1
Weapon Attack: +1
[3 --> 4] slots
Untradeable

Belt
http://www.happychinchilla.info/Sout...r/01132111.png
베테랑 크로스 벨트
Req Level: 95
STR: +[2 --> 3]
DEX: +[2 --> 3]
INT: +[2 --> 3]
LUK: +[2 --> 3]
HP: +80
MP: +80
WDEF: +45
MDEF: +45
Avoid: +30
3 slots
Untradeable

Medal
http://www.happychinchilla.info/Sout...r/01142354.png
크로스헌터 마스터
Req Level: 120
STR: +5
DEX: +5
INT: +5
LUK: +5
HP: +200
MP: +200
WDEF: +120
MDEF: +120
Magic Attack: +[2 --> 1]
Weapon Attack: +[2 --> 1]
Accuracy: +50
Avoid: +50
Speed: +10
PVP Damage: +2%
0 slots
Untradeable
One-of-a-kind
Cannot resell to merchants

Shoulderpad
http://www.happychinchilla.info/Sout...r/01152069.png
베테랑 크로스 숄더
Req Level: 85
STR: +1
DEX: +1
INT: +1
LUK: +1
WDEF: +35
MDEF: +35
Magic Attack: +1
Weapon Attack: +1
[2 --> 3] slots
Untradeable

Cap
http://www.happychinchilla.info/Sout...r/01003364.png
레전드 메이플 베레모
Req Level: 80
STR: +5
DEX: +5
INT: +5
LUK: +5
WDEF: +80
MDEF: +80
Magic Attack: +1
Weapon Attack: +1
[7 --> 8] slots
Untradeable

Weapon

Dual Bow
http://www.happychinchilla.info/Sout...r/01522023.png
드래고닉 나르쉘
Req Level: [105 --> 110]
Req STR: 110
Req DEX: 275
HP: +50
MP: +20
Weapon Attack: +108
Accuracy: +30
Durability: 500,000
Charm EXP: +60
Charisma EXP: +60
Will EXP: +60
[7 --> 8] slots
Untradeable
Epic item
2011-08-16, 04:30 AM
Link

Jeeze. They made Akyrum 3x stronger. :X
2011-08-16, 04:34 AM
Locked

What's indieMhpR (20)?
2011-08-16, 04:59 AM
Fiel

Quote:

Originally Posted by Locked

What's indieMhpR (20)?

independent max hp +% increase

It basically means it stacks with other HP increase skills, it increases HP, and it's % based.
2011-08-16, 05:04 AM
Locked

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fiel

independent max hp +% increase

It basically means it stacks with other HP increase skills, it increases HP, and it's % based.

Thank God.
Metamorph didn't stack with HB previously.
2011-08-16, 05:04 AM
Malthe

30k touch and 20k magic damage.
Oboi.
2011-08-16, 05:05 AM
JoeTang

Quote:

Originally Posted by Locked

What's indieMhpR (20)?

It's OP, that's what it is. Remind me to make an Aran in KMS.
2011-08-16, 05:12 AM
ShinkuDragon

oh of course, make touching the mage do more damage than his magic <.<
2011-08-16, 05:26 AM
catandvodka

The patch note said there are several changes to the Cross Hunter items, I wonder how they changed.
2011-08-16, 05:27 AM
Blades4hire

Looks like Akyrum isn't easymode anymore :f3:
Still looks easier than empress though, and the drops are arguably MUCH better.
Also, they nerfed magic crash EVEN MORE.
trolololol
2011-08-16, 05:35 AM
ShinkuDragon

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blades4hire

Looks like Akyrum isn't easymode anymore :f3:
Still looks easier than empress though, and the drops are arguably MUCH better.
Also, they nerfed magic crash EVEN MORE.
trolololol

how, i don't se any about magic crash o.O

and what drops?
2011-08-16, 05:43 AM
Malthe

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShinkuDragon

how, i don't se any about magic crash o.O

and what drops?

they made monsters immune to magic crash and dark bind(?) for 1 minute after using it.
And the rings i assume.
2011-08-16, 05:50 AM
ShinkuDragon

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unleashing

they made monsters immune to magic crash and dark bind(?) for 1 minute after using it.
And the rings i assume.

...1 minute? the freaking thing is worthless now!
2011-08-16, 05:58 AM
Blades4hire

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShinkuDragon

how, i don't se any about magic crash o.O

and what drops?

It drops dominator pendant(36 all 5 att/Matt 10%HP/MP 3 slots), and 2 2 att potentialable lvl 50 rings that give a set bonus of 10 att 15 all when worn together.
2011-08-16, 07:02 AM
JoeTang

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unleashing

they made monsters immune to magic crash and dark bind(?) for 1 minute after using it.
And the rings i assume.

No. They made monsters immune to Magic Crash and Dark Bind for one minute after they wear off.
2011-08-16, 07:04 AM
ShinkuDragon

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeTang

No. They made monsters immune to Magic Crash and Dark Bind for one minute after they wear off.

question: does this mean that if i magic crash before the previous magic crash ends, the monster DOES get magic crashed? if so... well that's ok. not great, but ok
2011-08-16, 08:28 AM
Jerry-Boyle

Woot! No nerfs to Evans so far from these KMST updates:o
2011-08-16, 08:36 AM
CarrionCrow

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerry-Boyle

Woot! No nerfs to Evans so far from these KMST updates:o

I absolutely love the skill directly after teleport use update. Telecast <3.
2011-08-16, 08:44 AM
Abysseon

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerry-Boyle

Woot! No nerfs to Evans so far from these KMST updates:o

I doubt they would nerf them given that as a legend class, arans and evans are lacking in comparison to mercedes.

Teleport mastery is an odd choice though given that blink is better for movement around the map.
2011-08-16, 08:47 AM
CarrionCrow

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abysseon

Teleport mastery is an odd choice though given that blink is better for movement around the map.

Not really. Had the training been like before BB where ToT was the place to be, sure, but at LHC and other similar spots Blink sucks.
2011-08-16, 09:50 AM
Abysseon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PSel_4R6Ko

So evans can now teleport after attacking but were there any changes regarding blink?:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5KRXJPaGdU

Have they made it similar to the teleport change so evans can attack more quickly using the skill?

I tried to do the same with my evan but there was a slower delay.

*edit: Vid of the new flame wheel:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrGm54PDv9U
2011-08-16, 10:02 AM
byakugan

At least Akyrum moves really slow. Such a high touch damage shouldn't be a problem since most parties should be able to corner it without problem.
Those Minar forest monsters seem weaker than the current time ones. I don't see this area being popular for other reason than its quests.

I don't see what is wrong about locking bosses with Magic crash, it requires precision and enough people. Even if KMS thought it made things too easy, 1 minute inmunity afterr worn off is way too long. The inmunity cooldown better start once the skill is casted.
2011-08-16, 10:11 AM
ShinkuDragon

Quote:

Originally Posted by byakugan

At least Akyrum moves really slow. Such a high touch damage shouldn't be a problem since most parties should be able to corner it without problem.
Those Minar forest monsters seem weaker than the current time ones. I don't see this area being popular for other reason than its quests.

I don't see what is wrong about locking bosses with Magic crash, it requires precision and enough people. Even if KMS thought it made things too easy, 1 minute inmunity afterr worn off is way too long. The inmunity cooldown better start once the skill is casted.

i'm pretty sure you've empress'd, i don't want anything that would make a boss with such a fast damage reflect cast to be out of crash at any time :X i mean, VL has a huge animation, and casts it at the end of it, empress casts it barely at the beginning, and as it has been said before, archers get DR'd almost inmediately. 40 seconds is 40 seconds too long IMO
2011-08-16, 10:16 AM
byakugan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abysseon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5KRXJPaGdU

So evans can now teleport after attacking but were there any changes regarding blink?:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5KRXJPaGdU

Have they made it similar to the teleport change so evans can attack more quickly using the skill?

I tried to do the same with my evan but there was a slower delay.

I can't see this and avoid thinking of those flying hackers in MDT...
2011-08-16, 10:48 AM
Raph589

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abysseon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5KRXJPaGdU

So evans can now teleport after attacking but were there any changes regarding blink?:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5KRXJPaGdU

Have they made it similar to the teleport change so evans can attack more quickly using the skill?

I tried to do the same with my evan but there was a slower delay.

Wow that's the same thing as those boting hackers in scarecrows, except legit.
2011-08-16, 11:06 AM
SwordStaker

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerry-Boyle

Woot! No nerfs to Evans so far from these KMST updates:o

They needed the buff. I don't expect a nerf at all.
2011-08-16, 02:07 PM
Fiel

Added changed items.
2011-08-16, 03:30 PM
MetaSeraphim

I missed having bosses I could tank.
2011-08-16, 03:58 PM
Devil

Nexon: Damn we need a new boss!
--> Boss created
Nexon: Damn we need to make this boss more challenging
--> Boss damage increased so most classes die with 1 hit
Nexon: OMG We're soooo good at making challenging and entertaining bosses!!!!

Audience that was expecting a boss that needed real skills instead of HP washing: :f7:

Anyway... another future Henesys... a place where noone trains because of the high pot costs... sad....
2011-08-16, 03:58 PM
Raul

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaSeraphim

I missed having bosses I could tank.

So do I and my 7k HP.
2011-08-16, 04:06 PM
Fiel

I think we've all found Nexon's profit cycle:

Create new boss --> Create new classes to fight boss --> Increase the possible of brokenness of items --> Take the previous two and monetize them --> Create new boss --> ...

Also, you guys forget to factor in WDEF for this. Even with a minimal 1000 WDEF you knock off 15% of his damage bringing it down to 25.5k. If you have 7k DEF like most broken Paladins do, you knock that down further to 17.7k damage.

http://www.happychinchilla.info/damage.html
2011-08-16, 04:16 PM
Devil

Hmmmm, when i'm lvl 170 it would hit me for 22800 damage... even with HB i have 13k HP...

It means i'm 9800HP short... with gaining 24HP per lvlup, that would mean I'm done at lvl579...

I'd better start lvling right away! :D
2011-08-16, 04:31 PM
Worthyness

Quote:

Originally Posted by Devil

Hmmmm, when i'm lvl 170 it would hit me for 22800 damage... even with HB i have 13k HP...

It means i'm 9800HP short... with gaining 24HP per lvlup, that would mean I'm done at lvl579...

I'd better start lvling right away! :D

No worries. Soon nexon will come out with a super new +hp potion that will give you +10k HP for 10 minutes using Alchemy. You only need to beat empress to get 1 of the ingredients AND you can use the recipe for a whole day! Isn't that a spectacular deal? And that's not all! Now, Nexon will make % HP potentials appear more often and increase the maximum to +20% HP instead of a meager 9%! Now you can have more HP with your HP so you can try to tank as much damage as you possibly can without the need for (a lot of) NX!

And don't worry ranged classes, we know you will never have enough HP to tank a 27k hit, so we introduced SUPER DEFENSE scrolls. This scroll will consume 2 slots for an amazing +500 defense points and +70 HP! and the more you use, the better the stats get! Use the Super defense scroll of the Ancients from the cash shop to make your scrolls consume 1 less slot AND increase the defense and HP exponentially for each pass! increase your
2011-08-16, 04:34 PM
yo72

Quote:

Originally Posted by Devil

Hmmmm, when i'm lvl 170 it would hit me for 22800 damage... even with HB i have 13k HP...

It means i'm 9800HP short... with gaining 24HP per lvlup, that would mean I'm done at lvl579...

I'd better start lvling right away! :D

Certain classes are meant to do certain things, just like GB was meant for ranged classes because the high avoid. And I highly doubt you factored in czhelm/chtp into your hp, because killing those impossible without nx bosses don't matter to you. Stop getting on your soap box and preaching how this game is driven by nx. EVERYONE knows this, just because it is doesn't mean you have to spend your life savings on a game, learn to merch, or work hard for money.
2011-08-16, 04:50 PM
ShinkuDragon

Quote:

Originally Posted by Devil

Hmmmm, when i'm lvl 170 it would hit me for 22800 damage... even with HB i have 13k HP...

It means i'm 9800HP short... with gaining 24HP per lvlup, that would mean I'm done at lvl579...

I'd better start lvling right away! :D

don't forget those 4k hp potions though, besides, you are a shad aren't you? don't you have meso guard or whatever?
2011-08-16, 05:03 PM
Aggravate

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abysseon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5KRXJPaGdU

Lol, legit Teleporting hacks at its finest.
2011-08-16, 06:29 PM
Liteness

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fiel

Also, you guys forget to factor in WDEF for this. Even with a minimal 1000 WDEF you knock off 15% of his damage bringing it down to 25.5k. If you have 7k DEF like most broken Paladins do, you knock that down further to 17.7k damage.

http://www.happychinchilla.info/damage.html

too bad nexon capped def at 9999 huh.................
2011-08-16, 06:35 PM
Fiel

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liteness

too bad nexon capped def at 9999 huh.................

Please show me anywhere that states Nexon capped DEF at 9999.
2011-08-16, 06:41 PM
Liteness

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fiel

Please show me anywhere that states Nexon capped DEF at 9999.

hmmmm ill ask some paly, i remember them complaining cuz of 9999 def if not, my bad
2011-08-16, 06:50 PM
Fiel

Avoid and Accuracy are capped at 9999, but DEF is capped at 30k.
2011-08-16, 06:54 PM
Locked

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fiel

Avoid and Accuracy are capped at 9999, but DEF is capped at 30k.

DEF is capped at 9999 now too.
:/

I will find SSes somewhere.
2011-08-16, 06:59 PM
PeePeeAyeDeeKay

From my Paladin:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b3...9999defcap.jpg

Only buffs on are:
Iron Body
Bless
Maple Warrior 20 or 30 (I forget which)

Did not have CO on so that's level 18 Shield Mastery (+180% defenses)
2011-08-16, 07:04 PM
ShinkuDragon

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fiel

Avoid and Accuracy are capped at 9999, but DEF is capped at 30k.

further saying that it caps at 9999 now, a pally friend of mine now receives more damage, and it's capped at tespia too, since the first part of chaos
2011-08-16, 07:08 PM
Fiel

Well, I eat my own words then. Thanks for showing me that!
2011-08-16, 07:19 PM
Devil

Quote:

Originally Posted by yo72

Certain classes are meant to do certain things, just like GB was meant for ranged classes because the high avoid. And I highly doubt you factored in czhelm/chtp into your hp, because killing those impossible without nx bosses don't matter to you. Stop getting on your soap box and preaching how this game is driven by nx. EVERYONE knows this, just because it is doesn't mean you have to spend your life savings on a game, learn to merch, or work hard for money.

*sigh*
1. This has nothing to do with my NX only rants, just poor boss design, plain increasing damage so most ppl die in 1 hit = nothing to do with any skill that could be left in maple.
2. Sure, some classes are better at some things then others, but a boss that is all about 1 hit killing = plain stupid.
3. I have a CZH 10% HP, Rex earring 10% HP and Maple Pendant 7% HP in that HP gear setup, and with HB, I still reach 13k HP at lvl 163... Actually that's quite high for a ranged class.

P.S. Every thought about how Nexon will deal with Black Mage's damage? 50k att range would be a bit low imo... 100k maybe? It won't be any lower since he'll most likely be lvl200 and he's supposed to be the "end boss" ~~and you need a lot of skill if you want to kill him~~.
2011-08-16, 07:35 PM
Blades4hire

Quote:

Originally Posted by Devil

Nexon: Damn we need a new boss!
--> Boss created
Nexon: Damn we need to make this boss more challenging
--> Boss damage increased so most classes die with 1 hit
Nexon: OMG We're soooo good at making challenging and entertaining bosses!!!!

Audience that was expecting a boss that needed real skills instead of HP washing: :f7:

Anyway... another future Henesys... a place where noone trains because of the high pot costs... sad....

No one trains at future henyses?
You would be insane not to.
Personally, I would much rather get double the exp of LHC by spending an extra 5m per hour on pots o.o
2011-08-17, 06:42 AM
DeanNim

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fiel

Well, I eat my own words then. Thanks for showing me that!

eat your shirt.
2011-08-17, 06:55 AM
Fiel

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeanNim

eat your shirt.

Wrong bet.
2011-08-17, 10:12 AM
Nature

Quote:

Originally Posted by Devil

*sigh*
1. This has nothing to do with my NX only rants, just poor boss design, plain increasing damage so most ppl die in 1 hit = nothing to do with any skill that could be left in maple.
2. Sure, some classes are better at some things then others, but a boss that is all about 1 hit killing = plain stupid.
3. I have a CZH 10% HP, Rex earring 10% HP and Maple Pendant 7% HP in that HP gear setup, and with HB, I still reach 13k HP at lvl 163... Actually that's quite high for a ranged class.

P.S. Every thought about how Nexon will deal with Black Mage's damage? 50k att range would be a bit low imo... 100k maybe? It won't be any lower since he'll most likely be lvl200 and he's supposed to be the "end boss" ~~and you need a lot of skill if you want to kill him~~.

Most classes should be able to survive just not long range. Even then they should be able to stay there distance. Unless you have a retarded warrior who doesn't know how to rush. He shouldn't be that hard. Dual blades would have to use final cut when he summons or when flash banging other than that phantom blow puts much distance between you and the boss monster attacking. You just have to avoid physical damage.
2011-08-17, 10:22 AM
Malthe

If you factor in stuff like the +hp potions and your defence and arans new and improved duration on combo barrier i think that surviving is possible even for not-washed ranged.

Don't evans have a skill to reduce magic damage as well?:f1:

Edit: They do and that's another 30% reduction when it's on and it lasts for 1 minute and the cooldown is 1� minute, seems that surviving him will be a question of HP washing or using the defensive party skills that we have available in the game.
2011-08-17, 12:10 PM
lukeine

Spadow's video of the boss shows that there is a respawn room and seemingly no potion cooldown, so it still shouldn't be that hard if you can do enough damage to it, unless that was changed in this patch.
2011-08-17, 03:32 PM
Ninjaman43

Lol it always the ultimate boss get buffed @_@

---------- Post added at 01:32 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:31 PM ----------

Unless If KMS raise the lvl cap >_<
2011-08-17, 03:33 PM
Devil

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nature

Most classes should be able to survive just not long range. Even then they should be able to stay there distance. Unless you have a retarded warrior who doesn't know how to rush. He shouldn't be that hard. Dual blades would have to use final cut when he summons or when flash banging other than that phantom blow puts much distance between you and the boss monster attacking. You just have to avoid physical damage.

Most classes? Don't think so! ;)

Also, rushing as a warrior doesn't work when the whole expedition is attacking.

Classes:
- Bow Master -> Instant Death
- Marksman -> Instant Death
- Arch Mage -> Survive
- Bishop -> Survive
- Night Lord -> Instant Death
- Shadower -> Survive
- Dual Blade -> Instant Death
- Buccaneer -> Instant Death
- Corsair -> Instant Death
- Hero -> Survive
- Paladin -> Survive
- Dark Knight -> Survive
- Battlemage -> Instant Death
- Wild Hunter -> Instant Death
- Mechanic -> Instant Death
- Evan -> Survive
- Aran -> Instant Death
- Cannonneer -> Instant Death
- Mercedes -> Instant Death
- Demon Slayer -> Survive

New party setup: Bishop, DK, Demon Slayer, Demon Slayer, Demon Slayer, Demon Slayer?
This reminds me of the old maple... Bishop, DK, SE-class, NL, NL, NL... I thought that was far behind us...

And I guess this boss will use the ever-boring-and-unoriginal seduce, so everyone will bump into his body some time...
2011-08-17, 03:39 PM
Ninjaman43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Devil

Most classes? Don't think so! ;)

Also, rushing as a warrior doesn't work when the whole expedition is attacking.

Classes:
- Bow Master -> Instant Death
- Marksman -> Instant Death
- Arch Mage -> Survive
- Bishop -> Survive
- Night Lord -> Instant Death
- Shadower -> Survive
- Dual Blade -> Instant Death
- Buccaneer -> Instant Death
- Corsair -> Instant Death
- Hero -> Survive
- Paladin -> Survive
- Dark Knight -> Survive
- Battlemage -> Instant Death
- Wild Hunter -> Instant Death
- Mechanic -> Instant Death
- Evan -> Survive
- Aran -> Instant Death
- Cannonneer -> Instant Death
- Mercedes -> Instant Death
- Demon Slayer -> Survive

New party setup: Bishop, DK, Demon Slayer, Demon Slayer, Demon Slayer, Demon Slayer?
This reminds me of the old maple... Bishop, DK, SE-class, NL, NL, NL... I thought that was far behind us...

And I guess this boss will use the ever-boring-and-unoriginal seduce, so everyone will bump into his body some time...

So only 7 class survive O_O?
2011-08-17, 03:48 PM
White

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninjaman43

So only 7 class survive O_O?

7 = most classes according to someone.
2011-08-17, 04:03 PM
Blades4hire

Quote:

Originally Posted by Devil

Most classes? Don't think so! ;)

Also, rushing as a warrior doesn't work when the whole expedition is attacking.

Classes:
- Bow Master -> Instant Death
- Marksman -> Instant Death
- Arch Mage -> Survive
- Bishop -> Survive
- Night Lord -> Instant Death
- Shadower -> Survive
- Dual Blade -> Instant Death
- Buccaneer -> Instant Death
- Corsair -> Instant Death
- Hero -> Survive
- Paladin -> Survive
- Dark Knight -> Survive
- Battlemage -> Instant Death
- Wild Hunter -> Instant Death
- Mechanic -> Instant Death
- Evan -> Survive
- Aran -> Instant Death
- Cannonneer -> Instant Death
- Mercedes -> Instant Death
- Demon Slayer -> Survive

New party setup: Bishop, DK, Demon Slayer, Demon Slayer, Demon Slayer, Demon Slayer?
This reminds me of the old maple... Bishop, DK, SE-class, NL, NL, NL... I thought that was far behind us...

And I guess this boss will use the ever-boring-and-unoriginal seduce, so everyone will bump into his body some time...

What on earth are you talking about?
Any Half decent party would be able to pin it so ranged classes can survive.
Arans will be a must with combo barrier.
Battle mages can survive easily, most high level ones have 20k+ hp.
Bowmasters, marksmen, WH, mechs, NLs, mercedes, and corsairs don't need to be in range of his magic attacks to hit him.
Dual blades have 25% passive dodge, and insane avoid+flashbang.
Cannoneers' main 1v1 att is ranged+they have 25% guard+decent hp.
Buccaneers have demolition iframes.
2011-08-17, 04:25 PM
Liteness

you know devil...arans got more hp and def than you know don't type stuff you have no experience on
2011-08-17, 04:31 PM
Devil

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blades4hire

What on earth are you talking about?

Any Half decent party would be able to pin it so ranged classes can survive.
-> You can't pin this boss (see below)
Arans will be a must with combo barrier.
-> CB is not enough for arans to survive themselves.
Battle mages can survive easily, most high level ones have 20k+ hp.
-> 20k is not enough for being -that- close range like battle mages are... :(
Bowmasters, marksmen, WH, mechs, NLs, mercedes, and corsairs don't need to be in range of his magic attacks to hit him.
-> He can't be knocked back unless people are professional enough to stop attacking for rushers. And how do you rush him when he has damage reflect UP and is walking towards the group?
Dual blades have 25% passive dodge, and insane avoid+flashbang.
-> Avoid =/= survive at all times
Cannoneers' main 1v1 att is ranged+they have 25% guard+decent hp.
-> Avoid =/= survive at all times
Buccaneers have demolition iframes.
-> Those don't help in getting passed him

Oh btw:
Level: 170
Physical Attack: [10,000 --> 30,000]
Knockback: 99,999,999 -> GL pinning! ;)

The only way I see it's somehow possible is using Mechanics with the portal skill. I tried it at Dojo end-boss, and it's really useful when he has damage reflect up and is walking towards you... but still... such high touch damage... comon...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liteness

you know devil...arans got more hp and def than you know don't type stuff you have no experience on

Only a tad more then Buccanneers, Mechanics and Wild Hunters... but that's not enough... Especially since they're sort of short-range and move towards the boss while attacking...
2011-08-17, 04:48 PM
Arroz

Quote:

Originally Posted by Devil

Oh btw:
Level: 170
Physical Attack: [10,000 --> 30,000]
Knockback: 99,999,999 -> GL pinning! ;)

The only way I see it's somehow possible is using Mechanics with the portal skill. I tried it at Dojo end-boss, and it's really useful when he has damage reflect up and is walking towards you... but still... such high touch damage... comon...

Only a tad more then Buccanneers, Mechanics and Wild Hunters... but that's not enough... Especially since they're sort of short-range and move towards the boss while attacking...

Not everyone sucks as much as you. Any half decent party knows when to stop attacking to pin it.
2011-08-17, 04:54 PM
Devil

Quote:

Originally Posted by Devil

And how do you rush him when he has damage reflect UP and is walking towards the group?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arroz

Not everyone sucks as much as you. Any half decent party knows when to stop attacking to pin it.

Geez... no need for insults, and read before you post...
2011-08-17, 04:57 PM
Luxeraph

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unleashing

If you factor in stuff like the +hp potions and your defence and arans new and improved duration on combo barrier i think that surviving is possible even for not-washed ranged.

Don't evans have a skill to reduce magic damage as well?:f1:

Edit: They do and that's another 30% reduction when it's on and it lasts for 1 minute and the cooldown is 1� minute, seems that surviving him will be a question of HP washing or using the defensive party skills that we have available in the game.

I love how there are so many skills that help survive the ranged classes but the stupidly low party limit almost make it that a party would be 5 classes that help survive a ranged class and the ranged class and the other five are hard to find in that number, if they're actually making future bosses all as hard as this one or more, they should make it so that at least some of those skills work for the entire expedition (e.g. smoke screen), other wise is just a tool for easy party planning (the expedition thing), which guilds that boss are already good at without it.

ETA: BTW don't most bosses have screen sized attacks, how are ranged classes supposed to avoid those (that always makes me angry, since what the point of being ranged when the boss can just use one of those skills)?
2011-08-17, 04:58 PM
White

Warriors using their rush skill ignores kb rate. However, I believe that Akryum's skill that sends his serpent out at you is long range enough to hit us ranged classes.
2011-08-17, 05:27 PM
Devil

Hmmm just thought of something else, magicians slow is -40 speed (works on bosses afaik), that could come in handy here somehow, what is the speed of Akyrum?
2011-08-17, 05:33 PM
Fiel

Huh, that's weird that the speed didn't show. It's -40.
2011-08-17, 05:37 PM
PirateIzzy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Devil

Oh btw:

Knockback: 99,999,999 -> GL pinning! ;)

Just so you know, Dragon Rider boss has 99,999,999 knockback, and I've seen it pinned before (unless the boss has short KB animation like Rex or Cygnus Knight mobs.)
2011-08-18, 03:36 AM
Valon

=___= I feel like Combo Barrier and Blue Aura should shave off a huge amount of damage, not to mention max HP potions, %HP equips (I think I have something like 35% HP bonuses just from extra pot stats/czak etc), like previously mentioned meso guard, I know that as a BaM I would have no trouble surviving in a well formed party (I have max MDEF with an overage of nearly 4000, so its just a matter of not getting touched, not difficult either) I honestly dont see how any class will have trouble surviving without a good party and equipment. Don't know why you'd be fighting the supposedly hardest boss in the game without top end equips anyways, but keep whining please.
2011-08-18, 04:29 AM
Veneni

Don't forget paladin's threaten. Wouldn't that reduce his dmg to 15k or less?
2011-08-18, 10:28 AM
Kizo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valon

=___= I feel like Combo Barrier and Blue Aura should shave off a huge amount of damage, not to mention max HP potions, %HP equips (I think I have something like 35% HP bonuses just from extra pot stats/czak etc), like previously mentioned meso guard, I know that as a BaM I would have no trouble surviving in a well formed party (I have max MDEF with an overage of nearly 4000, so its just a matter of not getting touched, not difficult either) I honestly dont see how any class will have trouble surviving without a good party and equipment. Don't know why you'd be fighting the supposedly hardest boss in the game without top end equips anyways, but keep whining please.

Plus, there's no pot cooldown for Akyrum, right? o.o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3duu-7JmrHE
2011-08-18, 10:44 AM
RedRaven16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kizo

Plus, there's no pot cooldown for Akyrum, right? o.o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3duu-7JmrHE

better yet you dont need to spend nx on wheels
2011-08-18, 11:07 AM
Blades4hire

Quote:

Originally Posted by Devil

Geez... no need for insults, and read before you post...

Maybe you rush him AFTER his damage reflect expires?
It's not like him touching you is a big deal, no wheel usage and no exp loss.
Im not sure what kind of parties you've been in, but any half decent party should be able to kill it easily.
2011-08-19, 01:40 AM
Valon

I'm actually really looking forward to this boss, and I haven't HP washed one bit. Considering the Body Boost glitch where invincibility lasts 60 seconds if another bam is giving you blue aura, I would have a blast here :D
2011-08-19, 02:48 PM
Flonne

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abysseon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PSel_4R6Ko

So evans can now teleport after attacking but were there any changes regarding blink?:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5KRXJPaGdU

Have they made it similar to the teleport change so evans can attack more quickly using the skill?

I tried to do the same with my evan but there was a slower delay.

*edit: Vid of the new flame wheel:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrGm54PDv9U

What is that deliciously adorable pet they are using.

Also, the new flame wheel looks awesome. And telecasting is always a plus.
2011-08-19, 03:41 PM
Jon

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flonne

What is that deliciously adorable pet they are using.

Also, the new flame wheel looks awesome. And telecasting is always a plus.

A unicorn. There are either three equips for them, or there are three unicorn pets. Or... something.
2011-08-19, 03:50 PM
yo72

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kizo

Plus, there's no pot cooldown for Akyrum, right? o.o

If it isnt glitched/dc hacks are running rampant its gonna be dead first day in scania
2011-08-19, 03:50 PM
yo72

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kizo

Plus, there's no pot cooldown for Akyrum, right? o.o

If it isnt glitched/dc hacks are running rampant its gonna be dead first day in scania
2011-08-19, 03:53 PM
Ninjaman43

I'm still waiting for pirate revamp....
2011-08-19, 04:10 PM
IllegallySane

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninjaman43

I'm still waiting for pirate revamp....

Watch the Pirate revamp be like Duke Nuken Forever, and I'd practically delete my character at that point in shame.
2011-08-20, 02:48 AM
Blades4hire

Quote:

Originally Posted by yo72

If it isnt glitched/dc hacks are running rampant its gonna be soloed first day in every server

Fixed.