[1.2.317] Critical Skill

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2010-06-07, 04:35 AM
Fiel

[1.2.317] Critical Skill

Resistance Beginner
- Added a critical skill which gives 50% probability for 200% critical with one skill point. This skill starts invisible.

Battlemage
Dark Chain: Slightly increased the horizontal range (Before, After)
Advanced Dark Aura: Now correctly requires Dark Aura 20 as a pre-requisite.
Advanced Yellow Aura: Weapon speed decreased by 1 at all levels (-2 from levels 1-10, -3 from 11-30 :: Down from -1 and -2, respectively)

Wild Hunter:
Crossroads: Now has the ability to stun. At max level, 95% chance for 4 seconds of stun
Jaguar: Reduced hitbox while riding on the Jaguar. As an example --> (Before, After)
2010-06-07, 04:40 AM
Cancambo

Critical! :D

~~Also, exactly how much was the hitbox reduced on the Jaguar? It'd be nice to see.~~
Thanks for adding a picture
2010-06-07, 04:43 AM
Illam

Ohh... more nerfs :(
2010-06-07, 04:43 AM
Kitteh

The links to the jaguar hitbox pictures are broken.
2010-06-07, 04:45 AM
Fiel

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Originally Posted by Kitteh

The links to the jaguar hitbox pictures are broken.

Not anymore.
2010-06-07, 04:48 AM
KaidaTan

Yay the Jag doesn't suck as much anymore! Lame and unfair critical is lame and unfair, though.
2010-06-07, 04:51 AM
Justin

I'd like some more details on that critical. 1 point for native crit for BOTH jobs? Wat.
2010-06-07, 04:54 AM
Fiel

Quote:

Originally Posted by Justin

I'd like some more details on that critical. 1 point for native crit for BOTH jobs? Wat.

I don't have any more information regarding the skill other than that it was added. There's nothing in the quest data to show where you get it from.
2010-06-07, 04:59 AM
Jon

Wow, epic Jaguar change is epic. These are some nice buffs to the Resistance.
2010-06-07, 05:05 AM
Mazz

Nice changes for the Jaguar. Critical will make Wild Hunters a lot more powerful.
2010-06-07, 05:14 AM
Bomber

Yey. Crits for wild hunter.
Now if only they took out SE...'-'
2010-06-07, 05:26 AM
JoeTang

Dark Chains has minimum range? =O

Also, with this Critical, Bow Masters and Marksmen are officially obsolete.

The guys running around with Wild Hunters in Tespia, can you test the damage of Spring Shot?
What I'm observing in videos is that its damage gets progressively better as it goes through more targets, like Pierce; however, I am unable to determine whether or not this is actually a Pierce effect where damage is going up, or whether this is some reverse Iron Arrow where the first target is actually taking less than rated damage.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyI4GVPXNck
Though this video is one depicting the use of Wild Shot primarily, you can see the few instances such as 1:10, where he uses Spring Shot and the initial hit is only triple digits but the final hit reaches 2448, which is not in regular range of mastery. Presumably, Wild Shot is at level 1, since he's only 7x and thus only had three skill points worth to glitch into it, and his Spring Shot is maxed as he is in Third Job. With this, I expect his range to be around 600~1200, which should hit nowhere near 2400 on Spring Shot.

Unless Crossroads has a similar effect to Pierce or the delay is greatly exaggerated, it is still seemingly worthless outside of a single shot to stun monsters from retaliating immediately and then spamming Spring Shot to finish them off as Crossroads is only 10% more damage and more than 1.5x the standard Crossbow speed.
2010-06-07, 05:31 AM
PeePeeAyeDeeKay

Quote:

Originally Posted by Justin

I'd like some more details on that critical. 1 point for native crit for BOTH jobs? Wat.

Pretty sure it costs 0 points. It's suppose to act as a default critical as a general game mechanic like other games have I guess.

Adding the skill and setting it to 1(as in enable) most likely is easier anyways than messing with the actual codes since no jobs until now have "a critical as a default game mechanic"

The above is kind of misleading maybe... for short though, let's say at level 1 you have a 50% chance of doing 200% damage as critical.

EDIT: @ video above.. no critical damages? o.O unless they made critical hits the same color as non critical hits or you have to do something to get the skill... (assuming this is after 1.2.317 patch)
2010-06-07, 05:42 AM
Link

Although the critical skill has been added or made more apparent, there is no actual critical skill in-game, nor a way to obtain it yet. Neither the Battle Mage nor the Wild Hunter on this KMST account that I'm using has a critical yet.
2010-06-07, 05:46 AM
Xakris

Blah blah...
I am waiting for their town... or anything completely new, because new classes made me boring.
2010-06-07, 06:20 AM
Chameleonic

What happened to the beginner critical for non Resistance classes I saw somewhere?

With the critical rings, critical% on items, critical oriented skills and critical buffs it looks as if some classes will get over 100% Critical rates, which would seem...excessive.
2010-06-07, 06:38 AM
Beg

Are they using the crit' skill or aren't they? This is an unbelievable tease by Nexon. Also I figured they'd leave the jaguar hitbox as is, that's odd shrinking it.

Can this new resistance class even get Critical Rings any more? Thought that particular event was over in kMS.
2010-06-07, 07:18 AM
Phoenix Wright

So, is this critical +100% damage, then? Or +200%? Hoping for the former, because the latter would be absolutely gamebreaking.
2010-06-07, 07:19 AM
Cancambo

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Originally Posted by Beg

Are they using the crit' skill or aren't they? This is an unbelievable tease by Nexon. Also I figured they'd leave the jaguar hitbox as is, that's odd shrinking it.

Can this new resistance class even get Critical Rings any more? Thought that particular event was over in kMS.

The events over, but people could have possibly made "ring mules" of sorts. The ring is tradeable once through the storage, and some people might have had the foresight to save a ring for a future job.
2010-06-07, 08:00 AM
Hotshot

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hidden Street + Archer skillbook

Critical Shot Master Level: 20
Type: Passive

Level 20: 40% success rate, critical damage 200%

Absolutely no reason for anyone to think the crit is "+" 200%.

I'd say this class is more fair with the built-in critical than without. NLs are still going to do better damage than it and they have the mobility advantage, but still I think it would be more fair to have its SE removed too.
2010-06-07, 08:41 AM
Phoenix Wright

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hotshot

Absolutely no reason for anyone to think the crit is "+" 200%.

I'd say this class is more fair with the built-in critical than without. NLs are still going to do better damage than it and they have the mobility advantage, but still I think it would be more fair to have its SE removed too.

I think the extra 10% Crit, plus the advantage over BMs of the Crossbow's damage formula, will bring them above NLs. Not to mention the "Wild Beast" self buff.
2010-06-07, 10:19 AM
Fiel

The original skill tables are fully updated as of this patch.
2010-06-07, 12:12 PM
byakugan

If it weren't for people like you asking for criticals to the Resistance jobs, maybe they wouldn't have got it <.<

This officially kill our actual archers.
2010-06-07, 12:14 PM
KaidaTan

Just confirming what ShiKage said -- there's no critical in the skill book and no criticals when I attack.
2010-06-07, 12:41 PM
Takebacker

Finally some sexy changes. Don't like that adv dark aura requires lv 20 dark aura though.
2010-06-07, 12:45 PM
Rob

Quote:

Originally Posted by Takebacker

Finally some sexy changes. Don't like that adv dark aura requires lv 20 dark aura though.

Sounds logical though.
2010-06-07, 12:46 PM
Sarah

Quote:

Originally Posted by Takebacker

Finally some sexy changes. Don't like that adv dark aura requires lv 20 dark aura though.

i don't understand. this is like not saying "i don't like that you need triple swing maxed for overswing". it's a skill evolution, of course it has a prerequiste of a maxed skill.
2010-06-07, 12:46 PM
Takebacker

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Originally Posted by Rob

Sounds logical though.

Also unnecessary and severely limiting due to the fact that resistance classes cannot add SP from later job advancements into an earlier one. Seeing as how all 1st job skills are now extremely necessary to max, this is a dumb change.
2010-06-07, 12:49 PM
IllegallySane

The Critical skill is such a tease. Will we actually get it via a low level quest, as a default skill upon character creation/job advancement, or is this a *gasp* level 150/180/200 skill unlocked via quests?
2010-06-07, 12:52 PM
Takebacker

By the way, if crit is actually 2x damage battle mages are now ridiculous in all sense of the word.
2010-06-07, 12:53 PM
Tikey

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Originally Posted by Takebacker

Also unnecessary and severely limiting due to the fact that resistance classes cannot add SP from later job advancements into an earlier one. Seeing as how all 1st job skills are now extremely necessary to max, this is a dumb change.

I don't see Teleport being a necessity. You can skimp out on some points on Teleport and still be fine.
2010-06-07, 12:57 PM
Takebacker

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tikey

I don't see Teleport being a necessity. You can skimp on some points on Teleport and still be fine.

Skimping on teleport only limits their ability to manuver around mobs, which in lower levels is HOLY S'HIT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING EVER because of chains pulling monsters into you. Because of how chains works you have to either rush backwards, or rush forwards. If you rush forwards, you HAVE to teleport past the gathered mob with the right timing or you will get hit. Even if you do teleport, you will probably get hit. This problem only gets worse as you progress onto thicker mobs. Teleport for a battle mage is hands down a necessity.

Speaking of chains, what the f'uck were they thinking when they made it's range longer but only TOWARDS THE CHARACTER ITSELF. Now all battle mages will be hit by dragged mobs 100% of the time...
2010-06-07, 12:59 PM
IllegallySane

Quote:

Originally Posted by Takebacker

Speaking of chains, what the f'uck were they thinking when they made it's range longer but only TOWARDS THE CHARACTER ITSELF. Now all battle mages will be hit by dragged mobs 100% of the time...

Not if you tele back. I do understand though how counterproductive it is to not extend the range forward and instead increase the minimum range.
2010-06-07, 01:01 PM
Takebacker

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Originally Posted by IllegallySane

Not if you tele back.

I was referring to the use of the skill while stationary, which is sometimes the fastest way to actually use the skill and expect to attack mobs within a reasonable time frame.
2010-06-07, 01:01 PM
KaidaTan

So aside from the lower HP, Wild Hunters are better than all the other Archers now. The main culprit being their 10%-better-than-archer base crit. God forbid it's +200%, but I don't think it will be.
2010-06-07, 01:04 PM
Takebacker

Quote:

Originally Posted by KaidaTan

So aside from the lower HP, Wild Hunters are better than all the other Archers now. The main culprit being their 10%-better-than-archer base crit. God forbid it's +200%, but I don't think it will be.

Have you noticed that the panther skills range is shorter due to the reduction in hit box? I was wondering if the range was attached to the hit box or defined in the skill itself.
2010-06-07, 01:06 PM
KaidaTan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Takebacker

Have you noticed that the panther skills range is shorter due to the reduction in hit box? I was wondering if the range was attached to the hit box or defined in the skill itself.

I haven't checked. I think the skill moves your hitbox to the left, so since the hit box is now smaller, it should be much easier to use. The hitbox and skill range shouldn't be directly related.
2010-06-07, 01:27 PM
shroum

Jesus enough with the nerfs give us a quest line or something!
2010-06-07, 01:29 PM
Takebacker

Quote:

Originally Posted by shroum

Jesus enough with the nerfs give us a quest line or something!

What nerfs?
2010-06-07, 01:30 PM
MetaSeraphim

Quote:

Originally Posted by Illam

Ohh... more nerfs :(

Quote:

Originally Posted by shroum

Jesus enough with the nerfs give us a quest line or something!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Takebacker

What nerfs?

I guess making a hitbox smaller is a nerf?
2010-06-07, 01:32 PM
Shidoshi

Quote:

Originally Posted by Takebacker

What nerfs?

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaSeraphim

I guess making a hitbox smaller is a nerf?

I guess what he's complaining is that just changing small details on skills (what he calls nerfs) isn't ineteresting and that he'd much rather see quest lines or more important information
2010-06-07, 01:49 PM
shroum

Just saying the last 4 patches have been seriously small nerfs or updates...
2010-06-07, 01:49 PM
Takebacker

Quote:

Originally Posted by shroum

Just saying the last 4 patches have been seriously small nerfs or updates...

Because that totally wasn't expected considering this is tespia.
2010-06-07, 01:50 PM
Solarboy

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Originally Posted by Illam

Ohh... more nerfs :(

none of these are nerfs, all are improvments.

can anyone confirm if they are for both jobs or jsut the wild hunter?
2010-06-07, 02:04 PM
MetaSeraphim

Quote:

Originally Posted by shroum

Just saying the last 4 patches have been seriously small nerfs or updates...

It's quite normal to get all the skills of the new jobs set up before they start doing their town and questline.
2010-06-07, 02:15 PM
Jon

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaSeraphim

It's quite normal to get all the skills of the new jobs set up before they start doing their town and questline.

But Cygnus, Aran, Evan and DB all had quests/areas when they got this far into skill development. ._.
2010-06-07, 02:26 PM
Takebacker

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Originally Posted by imjon

But Cygnus, Aran, Evan and DB all had quests/areas when they got this far into skill development. ._.

Huh? Arans town was released like 7+ patches after the class was. Evan and DB "towns" are nothing more than a few map extensions.
2010-06-07, 02:31 PM
Jon

Quote:

Originally Posted by Takebacker

Huh? Arans town was released like 7+ patches after the class was. Evan and DB "towns" are nothing more than a few map extensions.

Exactly! The Resistance has nothing other than the jobs and skills so far. They've been around for about 7 revisions of KMSt.
2010-06-07, 02:34 PM
Takebacker

Quote:

Originally Posted by imjon

Exactly! The Resistance has nothing other than the jobs and skills so far. They've been around for about 7 revisions of KMSt.

No. They've been around for 3.
2010-06-07, 02:35 PM
MetaSeraphim

Quote:

Originally Posted by imjon

Exactly! The Resistance has nothing other than the jobs and skills so far. They've been around for about 7 revisions of KMSt.

1.2.314 - 1.2.317. . . . . . . .
2010-06-07, 02:37 PM
Alilatias

Quote:

Originally Posted by imjon

But Cygnus, Aran, Evan and DB all had quests/areas when they got this far into skill development. ._.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Takebacker

Huh? Arans town was released like 7+ patches after the class was. Evan and DB "towns" are nothing more than a few map extensions.

Both Aran and Cygnus also spent about two months in KMST before their quests and areas were revealed. Evan and DB were really rushed in comparison.
2010-06-07, 02:42 PM
Jon

Quote:

Originally Posted by Takebacker

No. They've been around for 3.

4. :f3: 14 15 16 17.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alilatias

Both Aran and Cygnus also spent about two months in KMST before their quests and areas were revealed. Evan and DB were really rushed in comparison.

Hm. Maybe I'm just thinking too much about Evan and DB. But it really doesn't matter.
2010-06-07, 02:45 PM
Takebacker

Quote:

Originally Posted by imjon

4. :f3: 14 15 16 17.

The patch that released them isn't considered a "revision" of KMST. They've been out for 3 revisions.
2010-06-07, 03:14 PM
Jon

Quote:

Originally Posted by Takebacker

The patch that released them isn't considered a "revision" of KMST. They've been out for 3 revisions.

Why isn't it considered a revision of KMSt? o_o
2010-06-07, 03:22 PM
MetaSeraphim

Quote:

Originally Posted by imjon

Why isn't it considered a revision of KMSt? o_o

Because they were released in 314, and had a revision in 315, 316 and 317.
2010-06-07, 03:31 PM
Jon

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaSeraphim

Because they were released in 314, and had a revision in 315, 316 and 317.

But 314 was a revision of KMSt... >__>
2010-06-07, 03:36 PM
Takebacker

A revision that implements something isn't a revision of what was implemented. There were 3 patches after 314, thus resistance has been around for 3 revisions. o.o
2010-06-07, 03:36 PM
Tay

Anyway;

I bet Nexon is going to make this invisible skill only obtainable in the CS or something.
2010-06-07, 03:43 PM
Teppi

so battlemage, as op as it is, also get this crit? o.O
2010-06-07, 03:44 PM
Jon

Quote:

Originally Posted by Takebacker

A revision that implements something isn't a revision of what was implemented. There were 3 patches after 314, thus resistance has been around for 3 revisions. o.o

But all four are revisions OF KMST. >_>
2010-06-07, 03:48 PM
Tay

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teppi

so battlemage, as op as it is, also get this crit? o.O

We don't know yet.
Neither of the classes have access to it as of now, so maybe only Wild Hunter will get it through a quest of some sort.
2010-06-07, 04:03 PM
Takebacker

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teppi

so battlemage, as op as it is, also get this crit? o.O

It's not likely, but it is possible.
2010-06-07, 04:19 PM
JoeTang

No word on Spring Shot? =(
2010-06-07, 04:21 PM
KaidaTan

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeTang

No word on Spring Shot? =(

I'll go test it for you now. Be back in an hour or less with some results.
2010-06-07, 04:22 PM
Takebacker

By the way, tornado got nerfed a TON. You can no longer teleport while tornadoing, and you no longer receive the insane damage boost while tornadoing. The damage is now correctly reflected in the strings. Genesis can hit 30ks, while tornado is stuck doing low 20ks when it used to hit 40k.
2010-06-07, 04:25 PM
KaidaTan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Takebacker

By the way, tornado got nerfed a TON. You can no longer teleport while tornadoing, and you no longer receive the insane damage boost while tornadoing. The damage is now correctly reflected in the strings. Genesis can hit 30ks, while tornado is stuck doing low 20ks when it used to hit 40k.

Assuming Tornado now works how it was supposed to, its old form seems like an odd mistake. You'd think you have to go out of your way to make a skill add m-attack.
2010-06-07, 04:27 PM
Takebacker

Quote:

Originally Posted by KaidaTan

Assuming Tornado now works how it was supposed to, its old form seems like an odd mistake. You'd think you have to go out of your way to make a skill add m-attack.

Eh. I could see the reasoning behind increasing magic attack, but the increase was pretty huge.

By the way, my previous concern with the change in dark chains is no longer an issue.
2010-06-07, 04:36 PM
Bribery

Boo, not being able to Teleport in Tornado kinda sucks. I can understand why they reduced the damage though.
2010-06-07, 06:07 PM
Tay

Woa
the Catch skill for Wild Hunters is so cool. @_@
Pointless, but fun to mess with. :P
2010-06-07, 07:00 PM
Coogi

Wild Hunter are gonna start from Joke to broke, just watch.
2010-06-07, 07:12 PM
Locked

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coogi

Wild Hunter are gonna start from Joke to broke, just watch.

How does this make sense?
2010-06-07, 07:44 PM
IllegallySane

Quote:

Originally Posted by Locked

How does this make sense?

He means Wild hunters will go from a joke class (like 1st/2nd job Gunners) to broke as in overpowered/broken class.
2010-06-07, 08:16 PM
Stereo

Quote:

Originally Posted by KaidaTan

Assuming Tornado now works how it was supposed to, its old form seems like an odd mistake. You'd think you have to go out of your way to make a skill add m-attack.

I don't know Korean but I imagine it went something like this:
"Jim, Tornado should have about 400 magic attack."
"Okay Tom."
2010-06-08, 09:56 AM
ZottenKerel

I still think it's funny how wild hunters have like +1100 dex boost at 14x.
2010-06-08, 11:21 AM
Takebacker

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZottenKerel

I still think it's funny how wild hunters have like +1100 dex boost at 14x.

>Implying wild hunters are the only class that can obtain that kind of stat boost.

Ha. Ha. Ha.
2010-06-08, 04:34 PM
Lei

Quote:

Originally Posted by Takebacker

>Implying wild hunters are the only class that can obtain that kind of stat boost.

Ha. Ha. Ha.

Cynicism over the internet.

Harharhar.
o-o. I did it too. Whoopsies~

OT: Mehh, I'm just going to wait like.. 2 months until these updates finally settle down to actually make any decisions.
2010-06-08, 08:37 PM
ZottenKerel

Implying they're the only ones seen with this statboost sofar since KMST ppl rarely party? o.o
2010-06-08, 08:39 PM
Takebacker

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZottenKerel

Implying they're the only ones seen with this statboost sofar since KMST ppl rarely party? o.o

Statboost? From...dark aura? Dark aura doesn't affect stats though, and the thing that allows characters to have that kind of ridiculous stat boost is through the potential system...which affects every class. o.o

And i think KMSTers party all the time. At the very least for rep and aura purposes...other than that they are pretty solitary but then again who isn't?
2010-06-08, 08:54 PM
Bribery

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZottenKerel

Implying they're the only ones seen with this statboost sofar since KMST ppl rarely party? o.o

It's from the new KMS Equipment System.

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