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Got accepted to Nexon focus group 2/21 <-- Note This Is In The Past - Arrg - 2012-02-23
KhainiWest Wrote:If you state something and it's wrong I'm going to confront it. He's trying to save face, I'm not letting him.
Opinions can't be wrong. And I can argue it until my fingers bleed, but it's not like anything will change your mind; you get off on arguing.
KhainiWest Wrote:You should probably teach some of your friends that.Who the hell are my "friends"? Raul most certainly isn't my friend, if that's who you're talking about. The only kmsers on southperry that are my friends are Mazz, Tay, HighOnMushrooms, and a few others, but none of them have even posted here, save for Mazz.
Got accepted to Nexon focus group 2/21 <-- Note This Is In The Past - The Great One - 2012-02-23
Arrg Wrote:Opinions can't be wrong. And I can argue it until my fingers bleed, but it's not like anything will change your mind; you get off on arguing.
Contrary to popular belief opinions can be wrong.
Got accepted to Nexon focus group 2/21 <-- Note This Is In The Past - KhainiWest - 2012-02-23
Arrg Wrote:Opinions can't be wrong. And I can argue it until my fingers bleed, but it's not like anything will change your mind; you get off on arguing.
Those weren't opinions. Opinions can be wrong, your opinion of me is wrong for one. Enjoy people correcting you.
Got accepted to Nexon focus group 2/21 <-- Note This Is In The Past - Arrg - 2012-02-23
The Great One Wrote:Contrary to popular belief opinions can be wrong.
That doesn't apply in this case. That's like saying someone's wrong for having their favorite color be blue.
I really couldn't care less anymore.
Got accepted to Nexon focus group 2/21 <-- Note This Is In The Past - KhainiWest - 2012-02-23
Arrg Wrote:That doesn't apply in this case. That's like saying someone's wrong for having their favorite color be blue.
You said two things, I asked you to clarify why you thought that, not that you were wrong. You attempted to present facts that provide evidence to your opinion. I countered stating most of those reasons aren't related to your original statements. However most of this KMS/GMS thing was a baseless opinion of my own that you tried to argue with, I even stated it wasn't directed at you. Hypocrite?
Got accepted to Nexon focus group 2/21 <-- Note This Is In The Past - Arrg - 2012-02-23
Arrg Wrote:Who the hell are my "friends"? Raul most certainly isn't my friend, if that's who you're talking about. The only kmsers on southperry that are my friends are Mazz, Tay, HighOnMushrooms, and a few others, but none of them have even posted here, save for Mazz.
Just wanted this answered, because you ignored my edit. I don't know who you're talking about.
Got accepted to Nexon focus group 2/21 <-- Note This Is In The Past - KhainiWest - 2012-02-23
Mario who attempted to debate with me for nearly 3 weeks to argue how I went about correcting him, which frankly is the weakest way to justify ones self when they were wrong.
But hey, you and him kind of talk a like, they think they have some great points, then quickly change the subject when cornered!
Fact is, the only "opinion" I corrected you on was the effect lag would have on a player from gms to kms. That's it, everything else you're stating is just a lesson you can yourself can exercise.
Got accepted to Nexon focus group 2/21 <-- Note This Is In The Past - Arrg - 2012-02-23
I really don't see why you'd just assume that mario and I are all buddybuddy simply because we play the same version. Are you friends with fangblade?
Got accepted to Nexon focus group 2/21 <-- Note This Is In The Past - Mazz - 2012-02-23
KhainiWest Wrote:Fact is, the only "opinion" I corrected you on was the effect lag would have on a player from gms to kms. That's it, everything else you're stating is just a lesson you can yourself can exercise.
I'd just like to point out that I lag regardless. Bad internet and being in Europe, aww yeah.
Got accepted to Nexon focus group 2/21 <-- Note This Is In The Past - KhainiWest - 2012-02-23
Arrg Wrote:I really don't see why you'd just assume that mario and I are all buddybuddy simply because we play the same version. Are you friends with fangblade?
I didn't assume, he told me this, multiple times, begged me to consult you whether or not you asked him to close his thread, which to me wasn't very relevent.
Are you done yet because it sounds like you're trying to attack petty things.
mazz Wrote:I'd just like to point out that I lag regardless. Bad internet and being in Europe, aww yeah.
...And are you saying it has no effect on your gameplay at all, or be dependent on a pet? My point was lag makes it even more difficult to be independent on a social interaction game, so that "lag" isn't the greatest trade off, I'm sure it also wouldn'bt as intense as someone from the east coast attempting to play that server.
Got accepted to Nexon focus group 2/21 <-- Note This Is In The Past - Afrobean - 2012-02-23
Arrg Wrote:Issue is that people with U-OTP have still been hacked by extremely determined hackers.I'm not familiar with the system, so perhaps it's not that robust? How does it work exactly?
accidental double post.
Either way, anything is better than the current system that offers absolutely no additional security at all. If a "determined hacker" can get through kMS's superior system, what does that make the gMS hackers who can get through our current, worthless system?
Maybe it's better this way though, eh? If hackers can have it easy, they're not likely to raise the ire of the determined, skilled ones who could REALLY screw EVERYTHING up.
ps this whole playing in other regions argument is really really stupid
Got accepted to Nexon focus group 2/21 <-- Note This Is In The Past - Arrg - 2012-02-23
I'm done. But the only reason I stopped arguing is because you're not going to acknowledge anything I have as having any basis. Just a waste of both of our time.
Afrobean Wrote:I'm not familiar with the system, so perhaps it's not that robust? How does it work exactly?I don't know much about it since it requires a korean cell # to register, but it sends a text to your phone to confirm it's you logging in.
Either way, anything is better than the current system that offers absolutely no additional security at all. If a "determined hacker" can get through kMS's superior system, what does that make the gMS hackers who can get through our current, worthless system?
Maybe it's better this way though, eh? If hackers can have it easy, they're not likely to raise the ire of the determined, skilled ones who could REALLY screw EVERYTHING up.
ps this whole playing in other regions argument is really really stupid
Got accepted to Nexon focus group 2/21 <-- Note This Is In The Past - Mazz - 2012-02-23
KhainiWest Wrote:...And are you saying it has no effect on your gameplay at all, or be dependent on a pet? My point was lag makes it even more difficult to be independent on a social interaction game, so that "lag" isn't the greatest trade off, I'm sure it also wouldn'bt as intense as someone from the east coast attempting to play that server.
I only use a pet on one character, I've been playing gMS since it came out and I don't feel like I lag any more or less in kMS or gMS. It's a slight inconvenience but it isn't horrible, I spent the first 2 years or so of playing without a pet and however many months it was from May 2011 to the release of permanent pets. The worst thing about lag was getting into PQs, that's the only time I've felt properly disadvantaged compared to other people.
Got accepted to Nexon focus group 2/21 <-- Note This Is In The Past - Kaasoljoyyx - 2012-02-23
Afrobean Wrote:I'm not familiar with the system, so perhaps it's not that robust? How does it work exactly?
Either way, anything is better than the current system that offers absolutely no additional security at all. If a "determined hacker" can get through kMS's superior system, what does that make the gMS hackers who can get through our current, worthless system?
Maybe it's better this way though, eh? If hackers can have it easy, they're not likely to raise the ire of the determined, skilled ones who could REALLY screw EVERYTHING up.
ps this whole playing in other regions argument is really really stupid
"Authenticators" were mentioned during the focus group. But the tone of voice of the monkey was along the lines of
"Um i'm not sure, would players really want an authenticator system? Would they want to have/pay for that type of system?"
Got accepted to Nexon focus group 2/21 <-- Note This Is In The Past - RedRaven16 - 2012-02-23
Kaasoljoyyx Wrote:"Authenticators" were mentioned during the focus group. But the tone of voice of the monkey was along the lines of
"Um i'm not sure, would players really want an authenticator system? Would they want to have/pay for that type of system?"
...
Anyone who would want that system would pay for it pretty much no questions asked.
Got accepted to Nexon focus group 2/21 <-- Note This Is In The Past - Kaasoljoyyx - 2012-02-23
"People would pay for the extra security. I think $10 is average price but I know plenty of people who would easily pay that much"
"It might take like 10 seconds extra of logging in but when you get hacked, that's years of time lost that you usually can't rebuild and you end up quitting"
^what was said
Got accepted to Nexon focus group 2/21 <-- Note This Is In The Past - Combattente - 2012-02-23
Kaasoljoyyx Wrote:"People would pay for the extra security. I think $10 is average price but I know plenty of people who would easily pay that much"
"It might take like 10 seconds extra of logging in but when you get hacked, that's years of time lost that you usually can't rebuild and you end up quitting"
^what was said
Good to know such things were pointed out.
At least we know they're aware of them and of their potential income.
Would totally get that to make sure my account is safe.
Got accepted to Nexon focus group 2/21 <-- Note This Is In The Past - Raul - 2012-02-23
Arrg Wrote:Raul most certainly isn't my friend, if that's who you're talking about.
I'm deeply hurt by this.
I thought we were homeboys, Steve.
Got accepted to Nexon focus group 2/21 <-- Note This Is In The Past - SaptaZapta - 2012-02-23
RedRaven16 Wrote:...
Anyone who would want that system would pay for it pretty much no questions asked.
Definitely.
I've already paid a lot more than $10 for item locks, and those only protect a few select equips. I have no way of protecting my NX, meso, chairs, scrolls, or my characters themselves. I would gladly pay to keep it all safe.
Got accepted to Nexon focus group 2/21 <-- Note This Is In The Past - Adrian - 2012-02-24
If they ever come up with an authenticator system let's hope non-USA players can get it too .__.