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Gymleaders
And then people who kill it without drop multipliers will get shafted.
Why would anyone kill Chaos Vellum or Hard Magnus without drop multipliers?
Anyone with the kind of gear required to kill those bosses can afford a 2x drop card and wolf underling familiar. Greed pendant and family drop buff are free. That's about 5x right there (I'm not sure which stack additively and which multiply)
By keeping the base drop rate low, Nexon keeps the in-game supply of end-game gear under control, while keeping its biggest spenders happy that their investment (in cubes for drop rate accessories, as well as 2x drop cards) is paying off.
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cv is very weird with its drop rate. For the past 3 weeks I went with 5 other people(2 bish, 1 other main atker, pally, and a looter). And all 3 weeks, the other main atker and I did not a get a single drop, whereas the looter got like couple drops. Didn't really make sense to me so I went with just one filler this week and got that many drops(shown in previous page). So in my conclusion, I feel like nexon manipulated the cv drop to have the drop rate of the original rate split between the 6 ppl. Just a speculation, but now it's gonna have me solo every week.
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Originally Posted by
qtpie
cv is very weird with its drop rate. For the past 3 weeks I went with 5 other people(2 bish, 1 other main atker, pally, and a looter). And all 3 weeks, the other main atker and I did not a get a single drop, whereas the looter got like couple drops. Didn't really make sense to me so I went with just one filler this week and got that many drops(shown in previous page). So in my conclusion, I feel like nexon manipulated the cv drop to have the drop rate of the original rate split between the 6 ppl. Just a speculation, but now it's gonna have me solo every week.
I've felt it's been like this for a while. The drop rate of a boss is like an average (possibly weighted?) of everyone in the party. That's why when I boss with more than myself as an attacker I make sure everyone has max drop rates. cRA rates seem to have been nerfed somewhat recently on top of all this.
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Originally Posted by
SaptaZapta
Why would anyone kill Chaos Vellum or Hard Magnus without drop multipliers?
Anyone with the kind of gear required to kill those bosses can afford a 2x drop card and wolf underling familiar. Greed pendant and family drop buff are free. That's about 5x right there (I'm not sure which stack additively and which multiply)
By keeping the base drop rate low, Nexon keeps the in-game supply of end-game gear under control, while keeping its biggest spenders happy that their investment (in cubes for drop rate accessories, as well as 2x drop cards) is paying off.
Asking "Why would anyone kill it without drop multipliers" isn't a very valid (or relevant) question. But, your answer does prove my point - Nexon only has it like this because they earn money from it. I mean, why equalize the boss drops for everyone and make the drop fair for everyone when you can just leave it as is with drop multipliers in the cash shop, because people will buy them anyway to get the most out of their run.
By keeping the base drop low, Nexon falsely keeps the in-game supply lower than it should be without drop multipliers and normal with drop multipliers. So basically, make the drop rate unaffected by drop bonuses, but buff it to where it's in line to the current average drop rate people use on them.
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Hard Gollux drops in a nutshell the past couple of weeks. :f3:
http://i.imgur.com/Crow4wo.jpg
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TugboatWilly
Hard Gollux drops in a nutshell the past couple of weeks. :f3:
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/Crow4wo.j
Same for me.
What has nexon done F5
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DavyJonesx
Same for me.
What has nexon done F5
Adjusted drop rates because they were too common in fm. Just like they did with commerci.
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Ed Wuncler
Adjusted drop rates because they were too common in fm. Just like they did with commerci.
but just for scania? i've had crazy good luck this past week.
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Only one server can have the luck ball at a time
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Takebacker
Only one server can have the luck ball at a time
Yep http://i.imgur.com/fi0bISC.jpg
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While you guys are going dry on hard gollux...
http://puu.sh/7sgfK.jpg
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players speculate that (Chaos Vellum) will not drop loot if there are any (00 - Lives Remaining) dead players, even though the map jumps every party member into the "loot room". A group I was in successfully killed, while at least one member had 00 death counter. We will try again on saturday with a new requirement being 01 = stay as ghost.
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kayeyearekay
players speculate that (Chaos Vellum) will not drop loot if there are any (00 - Lives Remaining) dead players, even though the map jumps every party member into the "loot room". A group I was in successfully killed, while at least one member had 00 death counter. We will try again on saturday with a new requirement being 01 = stay as ghost.
You need to be alive when the boss is killed (or box clicked for Pierre/queen) to get instanced drops. Same goes for all other bosses.
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DavyJonesx
^Drops from 2 Chars with Afro's
Today's CRA drops:
http://i.imgur.com/tP3td9Y.png
^Drops from 2 Chars with Afro's.
0 Drops on my mule with no afro.
http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net...gif?1326737536
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DavyJonesx
CRAP, I missed today's CRA? :f4:
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GunPowder
CRAP, I missed today's CRA? :f4:
We needed you too.
Did Queen like 3x cuz we kept failing :f4:
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DavyJonesx
We needed you too.
Did Queen like 3x cuz we kept failing :f4:
FML, I totally forgot. I was playing my newly created Gunslinger for the char card :f7:
Damn, I also missed Hell Gollux today. I don't like this day at all.
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Marksman Bryan
You need to be alive when the boss is killed (or box clicked for Pierre/queen) to get instanced drops. Same goes for all other bosses.
not true; every chaos boss transports the entire party into a "loot room" as long as you do not resurrect outside. i only just killed chaos vellum, and now hearing about HIS difference. in each of the other three bosses a party member can be dead-ghost with 00 counter remaining, floating inside the boss fight, and get loots. personally uh "tested" witnessed
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kayeyearekay
not true; every chaos boss transports the entire party into a "loot room" as long as you do not resurrect outside. i only just killed chaos vellum, and now hearing about HIS difference. in each of the other three bosses a party member can be dead-ghost with 00 counter remaining, floating inside the boss fight, and get loots. personally uh "tested" witnessed
No, it just auto-revives you if you're dead. There's no loot room. I learned this the hard way on the very first day of the instanced drop change. I brought in loot mules and had them all die. I was the only one that got any tops at all. For reference, my drop rate is such that I should get 5 per person every time.
It's also happened to at least one person one each of my Cvellum runs (minus today's, pineappleing finally :f7:), and that person got no drops. Take what you will from this example as there's a good chance they would've gotten nothing anyway....
