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Root Abyss Boss Mechanics - ShinkuDragon - 2013-01-19
something i've noticed:
vellum popping out of the ground didn't kill my mercedes (did around 7k hp though, out of 7.7k) while on my DrK it hits over 20k. i'm not too sure of the numbers so i'll try to recheck today, but it could be that they follow a certain formula where they deal a base damage plus an amount depending on your total HP
for example (and this one i did notice) von bon's blue little ball thinguie hit my mercedes for 10k-ish or so, ohkoing, while on shinku it hit for 80k-ish or so, leaving me alive with 5% or so hp left.
so it definitely scales somehow (and pierre's ohko attack hit 55xxx K on my DrK, three times.)
Root Abyss Boss Mechanics - PirateIzzy - 2013-01-19
Problem. Wrote:Von Bon:
2) Ranged - Visual cue is that he raises his wad/cane/staff(whatever is is), twirls it around, and it glows or charges up. Should be really easy to notice. The attack itself looks like sperm or something. // Counter: For non-mounted classes (Non-Mech, or WH), simply duck the attack. For mounted classes (Mech, WH), you must jump over the attack, and don't just jump straight up, jump towards and past it. Very powerful attack. On my Level 152 Mech (10k HP), takes out about 99% of my HP.
That skill seems to 1hko magicians for some reason. I take 8.8k damage when I have 8.7k HP.
Root Abyss Boss Mechanics - Niernen - 2013-01-19
ShinkuDragon Wrote:something i've noticed:
vellum popping out of the ground didn't kill my mercedes (did around 7k hp though, out of 7.7k) while on my DrK it hits over 20k. i'm not too sure of the numbers so i'll try to recheck today, but it could be that they follow a certain formula where they deal a base damage plus an amount depending on your total HP
for example (and this one i did notice) von bon's blue little ball thinguie hit my mercedes for 10k-ish or so, ohkoing, while on shinku it hit for 80k-ish or so, leaving me alive with 5% or so hp left.
so it definitely scales somehow (and pierre's ohko attack hit 55xxx K on my DrK, three times.)
I noticed Von Bon's ground smash and ball attack do not kill my mercedes, and it has only 16k HP. It does about 14.4k, which is the HP i would have without the Kaiser link skill.
Root Abyss Boss Mechanics - PirateIzzy - 2013-01-19
I also saw a skill used by Wrathful Crimson Queen (the neutral one) where she uses a skull. Anyone know what it does?
Root Abyss Boss Mechanics - Phoenix Wright - 2013-01-19
Von Bon's ball thingy and ground smash did approximately 12k to my Marksman. He has 14.4k health.
Root Abyss Boss Mechanics - Worthyness - 2013-01-19
Chicken bro does 18k damage to my 22k ish buc. But we have that damage reduce-y thing so IDK. I assumed it was 95% of your HP or something. I can tank pretty much any hit except for the fireball thing, but I was the one being targeted most of the time, so that didn't really affect me as much.
Root Abyss Boss Mechanics - Phoenix Wright - 2013-01-19
Hmm. What I'm thinking is that it's supposed to OHKO you, but damage reduction skills seem to work on it?
Root Abyss Boss Mechanics - ShinkuDragon - 2013-01-19
Phoenix Wright Wrote:Hmm. What I'm thinking is that it's supposed to OHKO you, but damage reduction skills seem to work on it?
i don't have any damage reduction skills and still survive it though. my mercedes has water shield (30% damage ignored) and gets ohko'd by it.
Root Abyss Boss Mechanics - Arcana27961 - 2013-01-19
My friend is a Mihile and I noticed Von Bon's projectile skill takes about 95% of his HP, while it kills me instantly. Anyone know if Mihile's have damage reduction skills?
Root Abyss Boss Mechanics - ShinkuDragon - 2013-01-19
Arcana27961 Wrote:My friend is a Mihile and I noticed Von Bon's projectile skill takes about 95% of his HP, while it kills me instantly. Anyone know if Mihile's have damage reduction skills?
they have an achilles like thing, 20% ignore iirc, but dunno why it would matter.
Root Abyss Boss Mechanics - TimtheAzure - 2013-01-19
I think it's Kaiser's 10% HP link skill.
My Luminous also gets OHKO'd by Von Bon, but my Kaiser survives the 15k hit with his 17.8k max hp.
Root Abyss Boss Mechanics - Aggravate - 2013-01-19
I'm not even sure if Von Bon has a ohko skill. The projectile is about 90% dmg to my NL and BM. It might ignore MG if Mages get ohko'd by it.
Root Abyss Boss Mechanics - Dudewitbow - 2013-01-19
If anyone wants more hp information, When i did von bon day one, i took like ~18k(?) or 19k on my 23k hp DS
Root Abyss Boss Mechanics - ShadeCaro - 2013-01-20
I might be goofing up, but Von Bon is the only one who seems to break through my Spiral. Pierre gets pulled back but Von Bon goes through it most of the time.
Root Abyss Boss Mechanics - Tash - 2013-01-20
Dark Link Wrote:Contrary to belief, Vellum doesn't follow the same "OHKO" mechanic as the other bosses, his Fireball WILL OHKO you regardless of how much HP you have.My Paladin can tank it. The clown's super attack still OHKOs me, though.
Root Abyss Boss Mechanics - ultimax21 - 2013-01-20
TimtheAzure Wrote:I think it's Kaiser's 10% HP link skill.
My Luminous also gets OHKO'd by Von Bon, but my Kaiser survives the 15k hit with his 17.8k max hp.
False, you don't need kaiser's link skill to survive the attacks unless it normally 1hkos you. I survive Von Bon on my own DB with 10% or so hp left with 17k hp with no kaiser link on. From watching how attacks work, puppet will not reduce any damage whatsoever for you from any of these bosses other than bump damage. It does bait bosses when you solo though...
Root Abyss Boss Mechanics - Novacokeservice - 2013-01-20
I think you should tell them that Pierre lowers you damage to 1/2 due to his PDR
Root Abyss Boss Mechanics - Untradeable - 2013-01-20
Novacokeservice Wrote:I think you should tell them that Pierre lowers you damage to 1/2 due to his PDR
Weirdly enough though, When your the opposite color, Its as if he has no defense at all.
Root Abyss Boss Mechanics - inemnitable - 2013-01-20
Untradeable Wrote:Weirdly enough though, When your the opposite color, Its as if he has no defense at all.
I think it's more like, all the root abyss bosses have physical resist most of the time, but Pierre doesn't when you have an opposite colored hat. Or maybe your damage just gets increased, hard to tell.
It's definitely not related to their PDR since I have 100% defense ignore and I still get the effect. I'm fairly certain they are all physical strong. Either that or they're not boss tagged, which seems unlikely.
Root Abyss Boss Mechanics - Phoenix Wright - 2013-01-20
ShinkuDragon Wrote:i don't have any damage reduction skills and still survive it though. my mercedes has water shield (30% damage ignored) and gets ohko'd by it.
Well, there goes that theory.
Perhaps it could be based on your type of job (archer, warrior, etc.) and/or your character level?