Daimean Wrote:DBs are thieves right? or did I miss something......

Dark Link Wrote:People are assuming the apocalypse is coming for DBs, because the picture previews have "nothing to do with DBs".
ITT: Dual Blade FUD.

Daimean Wrote:DBs are thieves right? or did I miss something......

Teppi Wrote:what was implied was REGULAR adventurers (sin,dit,sair,buc or the ones that can be created as UAs) not the added on adventurers (db,cannoneers). the added on adventurers will most likely have small skill tweaks

Blades4hire Wrote:Lets see now.
Right now, with phantom blow, i hit around 80-100k times 6 and 160-200k times 6(30% boss) on final cut
After legend, ill hit 80-100k times 6 and 55-70k times 6.
That changes me from hitting 1.2-1.8m per phantom blow to 800k-1.1m per phantom blow.
If i had 60% boss, the change would be even more dramatic.
The more % boss/total damage your dual blade has, the more you will be nerfed.

Also, im apparantly now a bed mattress :f6:

Satellite Wrote:I...

I KNEW IT.
http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=49861

My Predictions:
- More legend(s) will be coming around December Correct
- These would probably be Pirate and Thief Legends along with the thief/pirate revamp Correct
- The chars in the revamp notice before could be heroes.Correct (?)

I'm such a genius

iAmFear Wrote:Hmm, not sure if I'm doing all the math right, but, ignoring ADS's damage boost, Thorns, and Boss Damage equips, and buff delays and Final Cut's own damage (a lot of stuff, okay, but this is just a simple calculation):

Phantom Blow is 105% * 6 hits, or 630% at 810ms, which is either 600ms or 630ms after Booster, but assuming 600ms, that's 1.67 Phantom Blows per second. Final Cut gives +40% damage every 40 of 90 seconds leading to an average increase, on non mirrored hits, of (1.4 * 40 + 50)/90, or about 1.178x, and with only maxed sharpness (total crit chance being 30%, with 5 base, and 1.4x~1.5x (1.45x average)) the average crit increase would be (.3*1.45+.7) or 1.135x, and then assuming 1.7x multiplier on mirrored hits for Final Cut, the average increase, I think would be (1.7*.7*40+.7*50)/90, or 1.976, as opposed to 1.7, so %/s would be 630 * 1.67 * 1.178 * 1.135 * 1.976 = 2779.6%/s
Then post-Legend, I don't know if the mirrored hits are fixed at 70%, or if they just can't go over the regular hits, assuming the worst case, fixed at 70%, the %/s would be 630 * 1.67 * 1.178 * 1.135 * 1.7 = 2391.4%/s. This is like, a ~14% decrease in damage, in the worst case scenario.

But again, I'm not sure if I'm doing all the math right, and yes, the more % damage and % boss damage you have, the more this will affect you. Also, this is lower than post-Union Bishops, but there's really no comparison, given the different multipliers and attack/magic attack and other stats, which ideally should be cancelled out by the multiplier, but it's not.

Celan Wrote:Explosive star for Sin

Spadow Wrote:What I think is the sneak peek only shows 1 particular new skill, but there are five different skill designs and Nexon hasn't decided which to choose from. The skill designs look very similar to each other.
That's why there are five different lasers/beams for the Viper or five different designs involving the Octopi for the Captain.

Blades4hire Wrote:The main dps decrease would be the the reduction of the effectiveness of % boss damage on dualblades.
Right now, having 30% boss would make your regular hits 1.3x as strong, and your mirror hits 1.69x as strong.
After legend , it would only be 1.3x on mirror hits, which reduces DPS quite a bit.

Daimean Wrote:DBs deserve a revamp and new skills just as much as other thieves.

Zangash Wrote:Dual Blades? The class that skips from top-tier DPS to mid-tier every single major patch? They deserve it as much as NL who have been useless since Big Bang?

Bullshi't, bro.

Daimean Wrote:Thanks for quoting my first post :f6:
But yes they deserve an update as much as Night Lords or Shadowers....