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Unscheduled Server Maintenance - 07.22.2011 - MysticHLE - 2011-07-22
Wow...really? This was a mistake? LOL! T_T
My impression of Nexon just went down the crapper (again).
Had they kept this (and made it long-term drops too) and finally cleaned up the economy from the hackers, then it wouldn't be so bad at all. But now hackers are just going to get their hands on these scrolls and dupe hack the hell out of them and get rich off hard-working legits again.
Unscheduled Server Maintenance - 07.22.2011 - Takebacker - 2011-07-22
I hate when they test this s'hit on the official without actually telling us that it was intentional. Makes it a million times harder to distinguish actual glitches from something that was intentional.
Case and point: 50% pinks "glitch" and their "abusers".
Unscheduled Server Maintenance - 07.22.2011 - Katforks - 2011-07-22
Nepi Wrote:http://forum.nexon.net/MapleStory/forums/permalink/7821326/7821992/ShowThread.aspx#7821992...but not white scrolls.
"100% scrolls are the ones being removed from the Golden Temple drop list.
There has been a lot of feedback regarding the scrolls and we decided it was for the best to remove it as drops. Whether or whether not these scrolls will make a come back, it hasn't been decided yet.
Thank you!"
Yep, confirmed now.
*sigh*
Unscheduled Server Maintenance - 07.22.2011 - octopusprime - 2011-07-22
^Oh f'ucking lawdy. They aren't even admitting it was a mistake. Saying it was player feedback that made nexon remove them. They might even come back. My oh my nexon, your incompetence is looking ravishing today.
Chicocl Wrote:Thats merchanting
Frankly sounds more like scamming.
Unscheduled Server Maintenance - 07.22.2011 - Nepi - 2011-07-22
From Hime's wording it makes me think that it was intentional, but they just got so much hate mail from people that they had to change it. x_x
Unscheduled Server Maintenance - 07.22.2011 - Razmos - 2011-07-22
They should increase the drop rate of Timeless/Reverse stuff as compensation.
...please.
Unscheduled Server Maintenance - 07.22.2011 - Snor - 2011-07-22
Takebacker Wrote:Didn't EMS's PMDs drop this stuff from regular minidungeon stuff though? (skeles, newties, etc) There couldn't have been much copy paste involved because no foreign PMD event had these drops from these mobs.
If the GM scrolls dropping was ACTUALLY unintended, i'm going to stick with the "they meant to have them drop 60/10%s and wrote the itemID off by 1 thus making them drop" theory.
They never mentioned scrolls being dropped, so therefore they just copied the droplist from eMS (who also had scrolls, chairs and those weapons dropping) and then forgetting to remove the scrolls.
Sigh, I'm seriously annoyed by the fact that they can't code for fùcking shìt. I'm an intermediate and I could basically script everything they mess up so much better. Only if they'd hire people who have the same attitude as me, who want to fix simple typos and bugs to make the game so much smoother.
Unscheduled Server Maintenance - 07.22.2011 - octopusprime - 2011-07-22
The funniest thing about this is the sooner into the event nexon changes this, the more hackers gain from it.
Unscheduled Server Maintenance - 07.22.2011 - Homerowed - 2011-07-22
octopusprime Wrote:Frankly sounds more like scamming.
Scamming, while looked down upon by certain people, is perfectly fair-play by maple standards. These people willingly bought, with their own money scrolls they thought were something else, however had they taken 5 seconds to look at the scroll instead of trusting a total stranger like an idiot, they wouldn't be at a loss. Scamming, ehhhhhh, more like teaching a few people a lesson.
Unscheduled Server Maintenance - 07.22.2011 - MissingLink - 2011-07-22
Nepi Wrote:From Hime's wording it makes me think that it was intentional, but they just got so much hate mail from people that they had to change it. x_x
This is how I understood Hime's post as well. Nexon actually listened to all the high-and-mighty QQ-ing how it was now too easy for the rabble to catch up to them.
OR: Maybe they had second thoughts that the event might be a net loss of revenue in the long run.
EditEdit: At least after seeing Hime's post I'm breathing easier that they probably won't delete GM scrolls already obtained.
Unscheduled Server Maintenance - 07.22.2011 - Takebacker - 2011-07-22
Snor Wrote:They never mentioned scrolls being dropped, so therefore they just copied the droplist from eMS (who also had scrolls, chairs and those weapons dropping) and then forgetting to remove the scrolls.
Sigh, I'm seriously annoyed by the fact that they can't code for fùcking shìt. I'm an intermediate and I could basically script everything they mess up so much better. Only if they'd hire people who have the same attitude as me, who want to fix simple typos and bugs to make the game so much smoother.
They didn't "forget". It was clearly 100% intentional evidenced by -hime-.
Unscheduled Server Maintenance - 07.22.2011 - Viaje - 2011-07-22
"They see me trolling, they hating..." - Nexon
What's better than upturning an economy by releasing broken scrolls at an unprecedented rate?
Making those scrolls no longer available after the damage has already been done, thereby making it worse for anyone who didn't take advantage of the questionable 'glitch'!
I'm still looking to understand how it could happen in the first place.
Brb, selling Enrage 20.
I will be pissed if they wipe the scrolls though. I had two 1H Sword scrolls that I got before the event that I was waiting to use.
Unscheduled Server Maintenance - 07.22.2011 - Chicocl - 2011-07-22
octopusprime Wrote:^Oh f'ucking lawdy. They aren't even admitting it was a mistake. Saying it was player feedback that made nexon remove them. They might even come back. My oh my nexon, your incompetence is looking ravishing today.
Frankly sounds more like scamming.
"A greedy or dishonest mark may attempt to out-cheat the con artist, only to discover that he or she has been manipulated into losing from the very beginning."
Wikipedia
They tried to cheat me but i won in that case both of us were scammers so in terms of morality i didnt nothing wrong because i stole from a thief. And yeah i still think that this is the meaning of merchanting in MS because when you buy something cheap in the stores becuase someone missed a 9 or 0 in the value you are abussing some human qualities.
Unscheduled Server Maintenance - 07.22.2011 - octopusprime - 2011-07-22
Homerowed Wrote:Scamming, while looked down upon by certain people, is perfectly fair-play by maple standards. These people willingly bought, with their own money scrolls they thought were something else, however had they taken 5 seconds to look at the scroll instead of trusting a total stranger like an idiot, they wouldn't be at a loss. Scamming, ehhhhhh, more like teaching a few people a lesson.
Hacking, while looked down upon by certain people, is perfectly fair-play by maple standards. These people willingly played, with their own time characters they thought were going to be interesting, however if they had taken 5 minutes to look at the game instead of trusting a total stranger like an idiot, they wouldn't be at a loss. Hacking, ehhhhhh, more like teaching a few people a lesson.
My oh my. what a leap of imagination it was for me to debunk that argument.
Chicocl Wrote:They tried to cheat me but i won in that case both of us were scammers so in terms of morality i didnt nothing wrong because i stole from a thief.
I'll suspend reality for a moment and pretend this is even an accurate statement, and just bask in the glory of how right you just proved me.
This community is so fu'cking garbage.
Unscheduled Server Maintenance - 07.22.2011 - Mike - 2011-07-22
This is why no one likes you, Nexon.
Unscheduled Server Maintenance - 07.22.2011 - MysticHLE - 2011-07-22
Chicocl Wrote:"A greedy or dishonest mark may attempt to out-cheat the con artist, only to discover that he or she has been manipulated into losing from the very beginning."
Wikipedia
They tried to cheat me but i won in that case both of us were scammers so in terms of morality i didnt nothing wrong because i stole from a thief. And yeah i still think that this is the meaning of merchanting in MS because when you buy something cheap in the stores becuase someone missed a 9 or 0 in the value you are abussing some human qualities.
Please don't try to justify scamming. It's one thing to buy a scroll from desire for power (game-breaking or not is subjective to context. e.g. had Nexon allowed these scrolls to stay and released better scrolls in the future, then it would not be game breaking), but it's another thing to attempt to deceive another person through exploiting their mentality.
Unscheduled Server Maintenance - 07.22.2011 - SaptaZapta - 2011-07-22
Nepi Wrote:From Hime's wording it makes me think that it was intentional, but they just got so much hate mail from people that they had to change it. x_x
That's what they want you to think.
Again, if it had been intentional, it would have been in the event notice.
They never miss a chance to make their events sounds 10x as good as they are, so why would they hide the scrolls while advertising worthless level 35-64 maple weapons? They did not intend this, and they did not know it was happening until they read it on their forums (or wherever), nearly two days after it started.
Of course -Hime- can't say, "oops, we messed up sooooo bad", so they present it as "we wanted to be nice to you but due to feedback decided it wasn't wise". Ah well, I suppose 99% of the community swallow that, hook, line, and sinker.
Unscheduled Server Maintenance - 07.22.2011 - Abysseon - 2011-07-22
octopusprime Wrote:The funniest thing about this is the sooner into the event nexon changes this, the more hackers gain from it.
Not surprised anymore from the last few exploits.
-Hime- Wrote:"100% scrolls are the ones being removed from the Golden Temple drop list.
There has been a lot of feedback regarding the scrolls and we decided it was for the best to remove it as drops. Whether or whether not these scrolls will make a come back, it hasn't been decided yet.
Thank you!"
Possibility of 100% scrolls in gach?
Unscheduled Server Maintenance - 07.22.2011 - Puppeteer - 2011-07-22
Mike Wrote:This is why no one likes you, Nexon.
Unscheduled Server Maintenance - 07.22.2011 - MetaSeraphim - 2011-07-22
MissingLink Wrote:EditEdit: At least after seeing Hime's post I'm breathing easier that they probably won't delete GM scrolls already obtained.
That's just bulls'hit.
SaptaZapta Wrote:Again, if it had been intentional, it would have been in the event notice.
Not really. Nexon wanted it to be a surprised for us players, but a bunch of whining little bitty babies had to ruin it for everyone else.