KMST 1.2.409 - Thief/Pirate Revamp

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2011-11-24, 07:12 PM
Connor

Whaaaat. Removed the only reason I made my Corsair back in the day. RIP Battleship :(
The new Captain Octopus skill is really cool though. And summoning the Nautilus is neat but I was never a fan of ultimates.
2011-11-24, 07:18 PM
valhala556

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Originally Posted by Piggy 2.0

Honestly, I'm kinda okay with some buccaneer skills being removed. Gonna miss demo and ST, but kinda looking forward to plantaining around with the new skills before I toss my buccaqueer in the trash-can. Love 'im too much to just ditch him for that (admittedly, horrific) new energy charge.

yeah the new animation for energy charge is horrorfing
2011-11-24, 07:23 PM
Baklava

It's the animation for the pyramid/subway cleaning buff, lol.
2011-11-24, 07:24 PM
Worthyness

They should make energy charge's animation smaller and more like the buff from the old pyramid PQ and then add a few electrical shock things coming from it. Right now it's too big and stupidly activated. We wanted charging to be easier, but not THAT easy. Might as well make it a toggle ability if you do that >.>
2011-11-24, 07:30 PM
Baklava

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Originally Posted by Worthyness

They should make energy charge's animation smaller and more like the buff from the old pyramid PQ and then add a few electrical shock things coming from it. Right now it's too big and stupidly activated. We wanted charging to be easier, but not THAT easy. Might as well make it a toggle ability if you do that >.>

Pretty sure it's a bug, because the charge rate turned from 200 to 8000.
It's probably going to be 800 or something.

EDIT: The passive effect for Energy Blast is a 30% chance on every attack to charge an increased amount of energy. Certain that the troll charge speed is a bug now.
2011-11-24, 07:31 PM
Link

Quote:

Originally Posted by Worthyness

They should make energy charge's animation smaller and more like the buff from the old pyramid PQ and then add a few electrical shock things coming from it. Right now it's too big and stupidly activated. We wanted charging to be easier, but not THAT easy. Might as well make it a toggle ability if you do that >.>

Or just have the electricity effect flowing around your character. That's badass enough, I think.
2011-11-24, 07:39 PM
ShinkuDragon

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Originally Posted by ShiKage

Or just have the electricity effect flowing around your character. That's badass enough, I think.

indeed, i think something like zerk without the horns would be great.
2011-11-24, 07:42 PM
chrisloup

I need a bossing video of bucc/viper..

that said...

stun mastery = works with all skills... bwahaha pvp..
2011-11-24, 07:43 PM
Baklava

As a DNF player, I'm slightly pleased...
http://www.happychinchilla.info/Sout...008.effect.gif

'Tis a Spitfire's Crossmore!
2011-11-24, 07:45 PM
Spadow

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Originally Posted by ShiKage

Or just have the electricity effect flowing around your character. That's badass enough, I think.

http://i.imgur.com/W0V6z.gif
After seeing the new Energy Charge, I approve.
2011-11-24, 07:47 PM
Locked

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Originally Posted by Spadow

http://i.imgur.com/W0V6z.gif
After seeing the new Energy Charge, I approve.

Could you help Joe and I with some shadower testing?
2011-11-24, 07:50 PM
Spadow

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Originally Posted by Locked

Could you help Joe and I with some shadower testing?

Sure, but you'll have to PM me about it and I will do it tomorrow for you. I'm going to sleep now. Good night!
2011-11-24, 07:55 PM
Kivuli

...they removed Drain?
Why , Nexon, why?
2011-11-24, 08:01 PM
IllegallySane

>Pirate Revamp notes. It's here!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvaoeqNLNtM

*Reads*

They removed Super Saiyan modes, and Energy Drain?!? Noooooooooo!

I can only take a small glance, as I am cooking part of the family dinner. I anxiously await the videos of the Revamped Buccs in action before I truly give an opinion on them.

One small thing bugging me. What's this about Energy Charge taking 2 hits? Does it mean we only need 2 hits to activate it, or we need at least two hits to start charging? If the former, all of my YES. If the latter, lemme go to a corner and ./sadface.
2011-11-24, 08:02 PM
MrTouchnGo

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Originally Posted by Hanabira.Kage

To be honest, I think we Shads are pineappleed.

Well, every Bandit and Chief Bandit is even more pineappleed though...

Nexon completely screwed over Assaulter and removed BoT.

True, we Shadowers have been clamoring for a revamp, but the kind of revamp we wanted was one that would accentuate the playing style of Shadowers.

Instead, what do we get? We get Rush, an ultimate, and two of our signature Shadower skills removed or changed beyond reasoning. We're thrown into the pit of "the only good class is a class with Rush, FJ, and an ultimate." It seems like there's no truly unique class anymore except Bishops and Arans.

I hate Rush. I really do. We Shadowers don't need it. We don't want it. Why shove it down our throats?

This revamp really did change everything about Shadowers... in a bad way.

It seems like Nexon is forgetting that the whole point of having different classes is that they are different.

I hope that Nexon revamps their revamp before it's released. :f7:
2011-11-24, 08:20 PM
Blunderr

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Originally Posted by MrTouchnGo

Nexon completely screwed over Assaulter and removed BoT.

True, we Shadowers have been clamoring for a revamp, but the kind of revamp we wanted was one that would accentuate the playing style of Shadowers.

Instead, what do we get? We get Rush, an ultimate, and two of our signature Shadower skills removed or changed beyond reasoning. We're thrown into the pit of "the only good class is a class with Rush, FJ, and an ultimate." It seems like there's no truly unique class anymore except Bishops and Arans.

I hate Rush. I really do. We Shadowers don't need it. We don't want it. Why shove it down our throats?

This revamp really did change everything about Shadowers... in a bad way.

It seems like Nexon is forgetting that the whole point of having different classes is that they are different.

I hope that Nexon revamps their revamp before it's released. :f7:

Absolutely. I look at this revamp, and all I see is flashy visuals. The concept images and skill animations added a TON of hype, but now that we're down to the point, it's a lacklustre update. The mechanics don't work properly, the damage buffs don't seem to be all that drastic, and it's not even remotely thought through. It would be generous of me to call it anticlimactic.

Maybe, just maybe, they're doing this so all Thieves/Pirates bandwagon onto their Hero counterparts? :f3:
2011-11-24, 08:25 PM
Abysseon

Video of corsair's octopus 4th job: http://channel.pandora.tv/channel/vi...gid=all&page=1

:goggle:
2011-11-24, 08:30 PM
Aggravate

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Originally Posted by Blunderr

Absolutely. I look at this revamp, and all I see is flashy visuals. The concept images and skill animations added a TON of hype, but now that we're down to the point, it's a lacklustre update. The mechanics don't work properly, the damage buffs don't seem to be all that drastic, and it's not even remotely thought through. It would be generous of me to call it anticlimactic.

Maybe, just maybe, they're doing this so all Thieves/Pirates bandwagon onto their Hero counterparts? :f3:

No kidding. The NL changes look all scattered around. I don't see the point in adding ultimates. Plus, removing our healing skills (minus Corsair's) was totally unexpected. The classes don't really feel the same anymore.
2011-11-24, 08:37 PM
IllegallySane

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Originally Posted by Blunderr

Maybe, just maybe, they're doing this so all Thieves/Pirates bandwagon onto their Hero counterparts? :f3:

But I don't wanna hop onto my giant cannon wielding counterpart, or my OPed mecha counterpart. I wanna be the guy who beats everything to a bloody pulp with mah fists. :f4:
2011-11-24, 08:40 PM
Ryukiroku

I'm still reserving judgement for NLs until I see some more videos. We're flashier, I'll give them that... it's really not what I expected though.

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