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Re: Archer %/s (Justice Archer, Wild Hunter, and Mercedes)
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Originally Posted by
fodjgngf
Instead of US, is Pierce a better single target non cap?
This has nothing to do with US vs Pierce at all. Tang is saying you get more hits/sec spamming pierce than spamming snipe. Since he notes the %/s is lower (obviously), it's not better unless you are well past cap on snipe.
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Re: Archer %/s (Justice Archer, Wild Hunter, and Mercedes)
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Originally Posted by
VerrKol
This has nothing to do with US vs Pierce at all. Tang is saying you get more hits/sec spamming pierce than spamming snipe. Since he notes the %/s is lower (obviously), it's not better unless you are well past cap on snipe.
That's not what I'm asking.
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Re: Archer %/s (Justice Archer, Wild Hunter, and Mercedes)
Oh. The second table uses Ultimate Strafe for single target, not Pierce. I'll edit the post to clarify that. Pierce is terrible single target unless you can cap uncharged. Then it's you're amazing.
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Re: Archer %/s (Justice Archer, Wild Hunter, and Mercedes)
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Re: Archer %/s (Justice Archer, Wild Hunter, and Mercedes)
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Originally Posted by
JoeTang
Marksman: Ultimate Strafe for Single Target
Wouldn't Snipe be better for single target now that it's 9 hits (10 with the hyper skill)?
derp just realized that was for the non Hyper tables.
Why are Marksman's over/s so much higher than BMs though?
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Re: Archer %/s (Justice Archer, Wild Hunter, and Mercedes)
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Originally Posted by
Bribery
Wouldn't Snipe be better for single target now that it's 9 hits (10 with the hyper skill)?
derp just realized that was for the non Hyper tables.
Why are Marksman's over/s so much higher than BMs though?
That'd be a bug. I've fixed that now.
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Re: Archer %/s (Justice Archer, Wild Hunter, and Mercedes)
When did Snipe become 9 hits instead of 1??? I've love to hear the science behind how a skill known as Snipe, aka a single powerful shot, can hit an enemy 10 times. Inb4 MAGICS.
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Re: Archer %/s (Justice Archer, Wild Hunter, and Mercedes)
Could I ask you to include elite puppet?
Opening Post not updated fully? Otherwise what changed from
1 Target: 5378%/s 5012%/s 4461%/s 3915%/s 2821%/s 20.46/s 21.15m/s
and the opening post?
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Re: Archer %/s (Justice Archer, Wild Hunter, and Mercedes)
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Originally Posted by
fodjgngf
Could I ask you to include elite puppet?
Opening Post not updated fully? Otherwise what changed from
1 Target: 5378%/s 5012%/s 4461%/s 3915%/s 2821%/s 20.46/s 21.15m/s
and the opening post?
Elite Puppet is already included. I forgot to add that to the description. I'm not sure what table you're comparing to the OP.
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Re: Archer %/s (Justice Archer, Wild Hunter, and Mercedes)
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Originally Posted by
JoeTang
Elite Puppet is already included. I forgot to add that to the description. I'm not sure what table you're comparing to the OP.
Ohhh, okay thanks yeah. Sorry reading wrong tables.
Is casting Wind of Frey worth casting?
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Re: Archer %/s (Justice Archer, Wild Hunter, and Mercedes)
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Originally Posted by
IllegallySane
When did Snipe become 9 hits instead of 1??? I've love to hear the science behind how a skill known as Snipe, aka a single powerful shot, can hit an enemy 10 times. Inb4 MAGICS.
Snipe works like that because its so badass that a single hit wouldn't do it justice.
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Re: Archer %/s (Justice Archer, Wild Hunter, and Mercedes)
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Originally Posted by
fodjgngf
Is casting Wind of Frey worth casting?
Yes.
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Re: Archer %/s (Justice Archer, Wild Hunter, and Mercedes)
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Originally Posted by
JoeTang
Yes.
Really.. doesn't seem like it's any good still.. What exactly makes it worth casting with a 4 second DoT? Do the hit's lost equal out?
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Re: Archer %/s (Justice Archer, Wild Hunter, and Mercedes)
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Originally Posted by
IllegallySane
When did Snipe become 9 hits instead of 1??? I've love to hear the science behind how a skill known as Snipe, aka a single powerful shot, can hit an enemy 10 times. Inb4 MAGICS.
Tell me you were asking this when Snipe was first changed to 4 hits instead of 1 and I have a bridge I can sell you....
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Re: Archer %/s (Justice Archer, Wild Hunter, and Mercedes)
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Originally Posted by
fodjgngf
Really.. doesn't seem like it's any good still.. What exactly makes it worth casting with a 4 second DoT? Do the hit's lost equal out?
Well, for starters, it does 500% x 8 hits over 1020ms without Booster which is more damage than Hurricane does in the same time frame. Then you factor in the fact that with Booster and SI, the delay can be brought down to 780ms, it does even more damage. Then consider that it adds 10 seconds of 200%/s uncappable DoT, and that each hit does up to 10m damage for a total of 80m in under a second, I think it's a teensy bit better than Hurricane.
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Re: Archer %/s (Justice Archer, Wild Hunter, and Mercedes)
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Originally Posted by
JoeTang
Well, for starters, it does 500% x 8 hits over 1020ms without Booster which is more damage than Hurricane does in the same time frame. Then you factor in the fact that with Booster and SI, the delay can be brought down to 780ms, it does even more damage. Then consider that it adds 10 seconds of 200%/s uncappable DoT, and that each hit does up to 10m damage for a total of 80m in under a second, I think it's a teensy bit better than Hurricane.
Well Hurricane Triggers AFA, does Wind of Frey do that?
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Re: Archer %/s (Justice Archer, Wild Hunter, and Mercedes)
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Originally Posted by
fodjgngf
Well Hurricane Triggers AFA, does Wind of Frey do that?
It doesn't, but why does it matter when I already calculated that Wind of Frey is stronger than Hurricane + AFA?
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Re: Archer %/s (Justice Archer, Wild Hunter, and Mercedes)
Well... I feel AFA and hurricane is still a little bit stronger than Wind of Frey. Just beating it by hits/sec if anything. Until maybe 2~3m per hit with wind of frey at the least.
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Re: Archer %/s (Justice Archer, Wild Hunter, and Mercedes)
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Originally Posted by
fodjgngf
Well... I feel AFA and hurricane is still a little bit stronger than Wind of Frey. Just beating it by hits/sec if anything.
That doesn't make any sense at all.
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Re: Archer %/s (Justice Archer, Wild Hunter, and Mercedes)
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Originally Posted by
JoeTang
That doesn't make any sense at all.
8.33 Widely accepted as hurricanes hit/sec, x 1.7 = 14.61 hits/sec. Isnt it better to keep hurricane going, considering that hurricane+afa are producing more hits..?
