[0.99] Dat Pendant

here's a good reason why wards shouldn't cost that much, all the scrolls you would use with them, have less than 30% chance of passing, the worst being 50% ones, which would require you to spend (on average) 50 bucks, JUST TO GET 7 MORE W.ATTK!, i can achieve a better result with 20 cubes or less.

I totally pineappleing said last night that Corgis should be ingame [typo prompt]. This is downright hilarious.
Also I just beat my face into my tv tray from the fatigue coupon. ih8u so much nexon. -__-

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Originally Posted by ShinkuDragon

here's a good reason why wards shouldn't cost that much, all the scrolls you would use with them, have less than 30% chance of passing, the worst being 50% ones, which would require you to spend (on average) 50 bucks, JUST TO GET 7 MORE W.ATTK!, i can achieve a better result with 20 cubes or less.

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Unless I'm mistaken, it'll cost $55 worth of protect scrolls, plus $25 worth of white scrolls, per slot, so actually $80/slot. Or, y'know, $80 worth of pams, if the WS ever inflate again, making it $800-1350 to make a perfect lionheart weapon.

You can't achieve +7 atk with 20 cubes unless your gear is all rare-crap-potential. If your gear's rare-crap-potential, you shouldn't be buying protect scrolls. In my experience, 20 cubes will generally get you the primary line you want, at the current tier, or about 1/3 the time bump it up to the next potential tier before that happens (there's also some chance you'll get 2 useful lines but it seems to be fairly low). If you want multiple good lines, either you do it on a common-class equip, and trade your 15% for someone else's 15%, or you suck it up and pay $200+ worth of cubes.


Personally the wards bug me cause I got 3 enhancements the risky way, and they're devaluing that risk (would have been the replacement of a fairly unique weapon, now it's just 10k NX). Though, at 11k each, they're still cheaper than cubes if I want to make my weapon stronger. Cause 11 cubes are gonna do plantain-all, and 50% chance of 3 atk is better than nothing (or more likely, ending up with none of the 11 even being as good as current potential)

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Originally Posted by Katforks

Also I just beat my face into my tv tray from the fatigue coupon. ih8u so much nexon. -__-

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I don't understand why fatigue coupons are a problem.

If you have the ores and plates to make the items anyway, the fatigue coupons save you time, but they don't change the time limit on the event. And I don't expect them to be necessary to complete the event for the dark angelic ring. Just careful planning of time that you use fatigue.

If you don't have the ores and plates to make the items, what does the fatigue coupon matter?

Or people know you can reset your fatigue for free at the profession town?

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Originally Posted by KhainiWest

...cute? Dark knight? For shame mother pineappleer, for shame.

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But... my DK is a girl! D:

...With a giant spear... suppose guys should be cautious.

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Originally Posted by Arrol

Or people know you can reset your fatigue for free at the profession town?

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??? What?

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Originally Posted by Jon

??? What?

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I'm guessing only once a day or something?

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Originally Posted by Stereo

Unless I'm mistaken, it'll cost $55 worth of protect scrolls, plus $25 worth of white scrolls, per slot, so actually $80/slot. Or, y'know, $80 worth of pams, if the WS ever inflate again, making it $800-1350 to make a perfect lionheart weapon.

You can't achieve +7 atk with 20 cubes unless your gear is all rare-crap-potential. If your gear's rare-crap-potential, you shouldn't be buying protect scrolls. In my experience, 20 cubes will generally get you the primary line you want, at the current tier, or about 1/3 the time bump it up to the next potential tier before that happens (there's also some chance you'll get 2 useful lines but it seems to be fairly low). If you want multiple good lines, either you do it on a common-class equip, and trade your 15% for someone else's 15%, or you suck it up and pay $200+ worth of cubes.


Personally the wards bug me cause I got 3 enhancements the risky way, and they're devaluing that risk (would have been the replacement of a fairly unique weapon, now it's just 10k NX). Though, at 11k each, they're still cheaper than cubes if I want to make my weapon stronger. Cause 11 cubes are gonna do plantain-all, and 50% chance of 3 atk is better than nothing (or more likely, ending up with none of the 11 even being as good as current potential)

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compare that to the much cheaper 50% +20WS's, it's still huge. but yea, i just made a quick number and went with it, although from my experience, 20 cubes is enough to get epic main stat, which you can sell/trade for your stat.

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Originally Posted by Arrol

Or people know you can reset your fatigue for free at the profession town?

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I'm pretty sure that's a Tespia exclusive function.., otherwise why bother creating fatigue recovery potions that can only be used 3 times a day & reset midnight server time..

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Originally Posted by Arrol

Or people know you can reset your fatigue for free at the profession town?

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That was in tespia for testing purposes only and is expected to not be in the main server upon release. Proof? Why would nexon release fatigue reset coupons if you can reset your fatigue for free?

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Originally Posted by Arrol

Or people know you can reset your fatigue for free at the profession town?

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That's Tespia-only.

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Originally Posted by White

That was in tespia for testing purposes only and is expected to not be in the main server upon release. Proof? Why would nexon release fatigue reset coupons if you can reset your fatigue for free?

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No,I mean when I played KMS you can buy potions that can decrease your fatigue by certain points or just wait until the next day for your fatigue to reset. You can't use it all the time though. Why would Nexon make the Professions, a very important game feature, NX required? They're not that greedy.

My guess is that Fatigue reset coupon will fully reset all your fatigue.

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Originally Posted by ShinkuDragon

sorry to break your dreams, but in GMST, defense capped at 9999 :f4:

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I really hope you mean 9999 BASE DEF, otherwise I'm already done, because I barely tip into 10k Defense with MW22 (10012 DEF) :f4:

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Originally Posted by KhainiWest

I was hoping the visual would change your perception on the scenario, some people are better with picture books.

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Nothing about that paragraph was remotely illustrative.
Though your affinity for pictures over words is quite telling.

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Originally Posted by KhainiWest

Typically when someone gives a question with an obvious answer, then it's implying their statement all together is dumb. Avoiding it makes me feel like you don't want to see the difference. In other words "Back in the bubble i go!"

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Implying that whose statement is all together dumb? Be more clear with your pronoun usage.

Again, refusing to answer an obvious question isn't avoidance. I addressed the question.

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Originally Posted by KhainiWest

You can blame your poor wording on that one, as you fortunately conceded.

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You're blaming me for your nonsensical response. That's... unique.

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Originally Posted by KhainiWest

Throughout this whole conversation you completely destroyed any train of thought we were both on. I'm comparing 11k nx, you're comparing 100 nx. I simply stated that a cube is not much more. Both game breaking is the underlining factor. Cubes don't cost an arm and a leg, yet I would argue, have done much more damage than these scrolls could do, 11k nx respectively. If anything they should be worth double what a cube is worth.

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I seem to have a power previously unbeknownst to myself. I was not aware that I could prevent others from forming cohesive thoughts.

100NX and 11k NX are really just relative examples. In reality, one represents the stance that these items should be cheap while the other represents the stance that they should be costly. It is honestly not that difficult to follow.

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Originally Posted by KhainiWest

It lowers the cost of cubing, it does not replace it.

Pam songs are two things in one, and can be reused, this is a one function scroll. Obvious no?

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It doesn't low the cost of cubing at all. Cubing remains the same price.
However, the need to cube falls. Cubing gets supplemented or "replaced to a certain extent."
If only I had said that before...

Unless I'm mistaken, Pam Songs are just White Scrolls that you have the option of using based on the results of a scrolling. Am I missing something here?

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Originally Posted by KhainiWest

Sorry, giving you way to much credit. I'm talking about enhancement scrolls, and the last thing I mention is scroll's, therefore I thought you could put it together yourself.

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My apologies for not being able to understand what was was not at all a sentence.
Go ahead and try to diagram that for me. I wish you the best of luck. I won't give you to much credit in assuming you'll see that it was more like a garble of words.

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Originally Posted by KhainiWest

No what I'm operating under is you say the scrolls should cost an arm and a leg, I say they don't.

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They do not what? They do not should?

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Originally Posted by KhainiWest

When you own items that have value, then even a 10% risk isn't worth it.

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To what 10% risk are referring?

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Originally Posted by KhainiWest

So if I throw $500 at the game, should I do $500 worth of cube damage or the inferior wards? I'm saying you don't have personal experience, or rather, far too little to make such comparisons.

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You're saying that, but you have absolutely no evidence.
As for what you should do with the $500, it depends on the equips you already have. I'm not sure that question had a point though.

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Originally Posted by KhainiWest

Assuming they don't inflate, which was my point of the "incomplete thought". I'm sorry but that's a pretty weak argument but oh well. I'll make sure to spell everything out to you in the future.

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To what "incomplete thought" are you referring?
I also, maybe ironically, fail to see what I needed spelled out to me, but, hey, if you can't refute a point, vaguely imply that there's something wrong with it!

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Originally Posted by KhainiWest

Oh there goes my point over your head again. 11k nx can do a lot more than give you an item with one less slot but didn't blow.

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Have you ever considered that maybe your points are pomegranate? Of course not.
And you're failing to see the potential of these scrolls, but I'll get to that in a bit.

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Originally Posted by KhainiWest

Damage makes the game go round. Trying to tell me that because I enjoy efficiency renders my opinion useless because I don't understand the players who feel like they developed this false maturity of "Idc what others think I do things for me!" is just silly at best.

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False. Grinding makes the game go round.

Also, please point out where I said that your over appraisal of the importance of damage makes your opinion irrelevant. While you're at it, show how I said or implied that it was an issue of (a) what others think or (b) maturity.

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Originally Posted by KhainiWest

Overpricing them to 11k nx is a pretty goddam missed opportunity.

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Not to me personally.

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Originally Posted by KhainiWest

Why would it bother you? What is your current % stat right now? You say you don't care, yet at the same time I see you have some type of envy of a player being able to do something, that you evidently can't because he has money. I'm sorry but your entire argument is in vain. You can't say the games damage bracket doesn't bother you then next sentence claim it does it's an opportunity you missed. So your solution to this is so that majority of the game can't do it, thus making it fair, specifically for you.

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Why would what bother me?
As for my current %-stat, off of the top of my head it's... well, I actually don't know off of the top of my head.

We've circled back to you being unable to think outside of your little box. While jealousy, competition, and greed are things I certainly understand, they are not traits the define me in the slightest sense. So if you see envy in my posts, it can only be attributed to projection on your part.

Really, though, the fact that you insist that it's an issue of money is quite telling.
Twice now you have either said or implied that those who don't buy as much NX as you don't because they cannot.
You haven't yet entertained the thought that there are people who don't buy as much NX as you simply because they don't feel the need to do so. Again, you're unable to see past yourself.

And, yes, I certainly can say that the universal "bracket" (as you refer to it) is of no importance to me.
You play Maplestory as an MMO; I play it as a single player (and sometimes local multiplayer) experience.
Some people exercise to compete with others; some people exercise just to improve their personal best.

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Originally Posted by KhainiWest

There goes your credibility, swish.

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More childish declarations of unearned victory, go!

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Originally Posted by Locked

I thought after a ton of Viaje posts, people would learn lol.

Anyway the new pendant doesn't interest me. Even a MoN is better than that.

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Learn what exactly?

And, no, a MoN is not better by virtue of being unPotential-able.

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Originally Posted by Stereo

Personally the wards bug me cause I got 3 enhancements the risky way, and they're devaluing that risk (would have been the replacement of a fairly unique weapon, now it's just 10k NX). Though, at 11k each, they're still cheaper than cubes if I want to make my weapon stronger. Cause 11 cubes are gonna do plantain-all, and 50% chance of 3 atk is better than nothing (or more likely, ending up with none of the 11 even being as good as current potential)

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You probably shouldn't look at these then...

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3 Star Enhancement Scroll
ID: 2049304
Description: Grants 3 enhancements on upgraded equipment. \nMore successes increase the chance of a good enhancement.\nThe item is destroyed upon failure.\n\n\n[Enhancement Success Rate] 80%
Price: 1
Untradable
Chance to Succeed in %: 80
If Fails, Chance to Break the Item in %: 50

4 Star Enhancement Scroll
ID: 2049305
Description: Grants 4 enhancements on upgraded equipment. \nMore successes increase the chance of a good enhancement.\nThe item is destroyed upon failure.\n\n\n[Enhancement Success Rate] 60%
Price: 1
Untradable
Chance to Succeed in %: 60
If Fails, Chance to Break the Item in %: 50

Because those will be what bring a big cash-in with these scrolls (for anyone who make have erroneously concluded that using the Wards for Enhancements was a bad idea).

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Originally Posted by Dark Link

I really hope you mean 9999 BASE DEF, otherwise I'm already done, because I barely tip into 10k Defense with MW22 (10012 DEF) :f4:

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:f4:

Viaje. You are VERY annoying. In fact, anyone hijacking any thread with huge walls made of responses is incredibly annoying.

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Originally Posted by ShinkuDragon

compare that to the much cheaper 50% +20WS's, it's still huge. but yea, i just made a quick number and went with it, although from my experience, 20 cubes is enough to get epic main stat, which you can sell/trade for your stat.

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Hmm. I've got 7 epic items, plus one that's staying stubbornly rare. 2/8 were bought epic, 4/8 went epic in under 20 cubes, the others were at 28 cubes (became epic) and 22 cubes (still rare). So I guess that's not too unreasonable.

I'd have just bought it all epic, except the cape/top/bottom are kinda irreplaceable, and the glove/weapon went epic before hitting any useful stats.


If you have a 7-enhance item and you use a 4-enhancement scroll, does the protection work to give you 11*? My Bellocce would end up 172 atk that way...

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Originally Posted by Dark Link

I really hope you mean 9999 BASE DEF, otherwise I'm already done, because I barely tip into 10k Defense with MW22 (10012 DEF) :f4:

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Definitely base, unless they changed it in chaos.

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Originally Posted by Phoenix

Definitely base, unless they changed it in chaos.

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tespia capped defense at 9999, as shown on all our pallies (3k def + something) ask the others that were with us, mine was exactly 9999.