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The end of the universe itself? - Wani - 2008-09-13
3xiledSlayer Wrote:I've read so much into this, that I'm convinced that it's relatively safe. But what gets me is, I also read something that said that the average person won't see much in the way of results from this. It cost $10 billion to build and yet the average person won't see much from it. They say it will help scientists gain a better understanding of the universe and what not. I have nothing against that, but we have so many people in poverty right now, people starving in other parts of the world, people that can barely afford enough food and gas to last a week, yet they spend 10billion to build this machine to do what? Find out more about the universe? I think it could have waited a bit longer. Sorry if I missed something here, but from what I've read, thats what I've come up with. If anyone knows what else this thing can do for us, feel free to say something, I'd really like to know.
You could argue the same thing about other things. How much money is spent on sports or various forms of entertainment annually? Apart from a brief moment of entertainment, how does this benefit people?
In any case, most of the reasons behind this poverty isn't because of a lack of money in the world, but because of corrupt governments.
And this has been in progress for 20 years or so.
The end of the universe itself? - 3xiledSlayer - 2008-09-13
Wani Wrote:You could argue the same thing about other things. How much money is spent on sports or various forms of entertainment annually? Apart from a brief moment of entertainment, how does this benefit people?
In any case, most of the reasons behind this poverty isn't because of a lack of money in the world, but because of corrupt governments.
And this has been in progress for 20 years or so.
I see I see. Sounds a lot like Memphis. Spends millions on sports stadiums and then the team leaves, while our schools here are broke and don't have enough funds to do anything. Yet the Mayor gets a raise of 20k per year every so often >.> But either way, after going to sleep last night, it helped clear my mind some. If you really think about it...$10 Billion is just a drop in the bucket when you look at how much money these countries have.
The end of the universe itself? - Flonne - 2008-09-13
The LHC doomsayers are generally either people that stole a Ph.D from a legitimately studied individual, or the gullible people that believe said frauds.
I agree on the fact that, yes, it is a possibility that it will generate enough energy in a peak atom collision to form a black hole, but that's not how black holes work. A black hole isn't some "infinite hole", it simply is a large cloud of that sucks in it's surroundings and converts mass/energy into fuel for it to sustain itself. The part they DON'T let people know is that a black hole the size of an apple is so SMALL, it would literally suck itself in and die in nanoseconds, doing so little to the surrounding environment it is quite probable that even the LHC itself will take minimal to no damage. A collision between two single atoms can NOT create anything larger than a fist, else the atomic implosion of even a small star like ours would create a black hole several thousand AU in diameter. A large star, under these circumstances, would likely wipe out the entire galaxy it resided in; I don't feel very dead right now, how about anyone else?
Not even our own planet will be destroyed, much less the universe; phenomena unimaginably stronger in energy release occur very often past redshift 6.0, and the edge of the universe (the area of recent expansion, meaning celestial bodies are still forming) probably has such highly volatile activity every second.
The end of the universe itself? - Sn1perJohnE - 2008-09-14
for those who dont know, there have been other experiments with colliders like this one, just not on the same scale. So if it were to kill us, the other ones would have shown some indication of it already.
The end of the universe itself? - NoWaizMatt - 2008-09-21
To give my thoughts on a blakhole... I believe blacholes act more like a worm hole or a white hole, a miniscule, transdimensional portal. As known, blackholes are no thicker than the tip of a ball-point pen at it's thinest. So, relatively speaking, would we feel it? The mass of the Earth and its gravity could possibly keep us from feeling being stretched. We don't feel the Earth rotate, so would we feel the Earth streth to as thing as spaggheti?