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About Elemental wand - Taiketo - 2008-08-26
... GM Zawmbee?
I love you Ben.
Anyway, even if this ticket is real, it doesn't hold much weight. GMs have said things that didn't happen before, this is really no different. I say we just wait and see, not much else we can do anyway...
About Elemental wand - Blankout - 2008-08-27
Nexon <3 bishops
About Elemental wand - »-Chris-> - 2008-08-27
pineapple ya! I'm buying one for sure.
About Elemental wand - Harrisonized - 2008-08-27
Cactuar Wrote:Err, I meant to the right.OMG, that was hilarious.
Anyway, here's the SS I promised:
lolstolenfrommyself
I apologize, it was a rather long reply. That GM used way too much white space.
Edit: BBS tags, I'm terrible with them.
![[Image: gmsaysgx3.jpg]](http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/1282/gmsaysgx3.jpg)
I guess you get banned now?
JK.
Anyways, without the elemental bonus, I guess everyone can afford these now since they're 'just another weapon'? (Without the bonus, most of them are useless, especially the 163 luk ones, because they act as a regular staff/wand.)
About Elemental wand - Wani - 2008-08-27
![[Image: gmticket.jpg]](http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff200/ThaixMage/gmticket.jpg)
Another ticket about it. We'll see, I guess :O
About Elemental wand - IcyGreenTea - 2008-08-27
they hate mages, and we can stop at that.
About Elemental wand - randompeep - 2008-08-27
Failure. They haven't responded to mine yet. -.-
About Elemental wand - b00t - 2008-08-27
I just had a laugh at readin this. My condolences to all the the poor people who really were just hoping for a boost (and LOL to all the lukless wannabe gods, and people who scammed noobs to get these cheap).
lesson learned: Don't just go assuming things, Nexon has the final say, and in this case, y'all got pineappled (no lube)
About Elemental wand - randompeep - 2008-08-27
Will a tic be responded to when it is closed? Because they closed mine immediately after I sent it.
About Elemental wand - Pauru - 2008-08-27
Just my 2 cents: (I've been playing a bishop since the day 4th job came out)
Bishops are flat out stronger than Archmages. This is problematic, because Clerics and Priests were both seen as SUPPORT classes; not levelling powerhouses. Archmages were supposed to be the offensive side of the Magician spectrum; but you know something is wrong when the support class outperforms the offensive class in just about every way.
Elemental Staves were introduced in other versions to balance this problem out. With them, Archmages could have a Damage/MP ratio closer to that of Bishops, perform better at bosses, and of course NOT BE THE SINGLE WORST CLASS IN THE GAME.
One of the key elements that should be present in any MMO game with a variety of classes, should be balance among the said classes. If these elemental weapons aren't made to benefit AMs, then no one would have any reason to play an Archmage over a Bishop.
Also, please don't throw NLC Pots into the argument, because they benefit Bishops as much as Archmages, which doesn't balance anything.
About Elemental wand - randompeep - 2008-08-27
Do GMs respond to closed tickets? Cause I'm just sitting here waiting for them to finish.
About Elemental wand - Corn - 2008-08-27
No^ . Resend another one.
Oh, and make sure you word it differently, because they might close that one too.
About Elemental wand - randompeep - 2008-08-27
Wow, they closed it right after I put it up. >.>
Probably, there's a filter, and if there's anything related to "Elemental Wands", it's closed.
About Elemental wand - godofturtles - 2008-08-27
Pauru Wrote:Just my 2 cents: (I've been playing a bishop since the day 4th job came out)
Bishops are flat out stronger than Archmages. This is problematic, because Clerics and Priests were both seen as SUPPORT classes; not levelling powerhouses. Archmages were supposed to be the offensive side of the Magician spectrum; but you know something is wrong when the support class outperforms the offensive class in just about every way.
Elemental Staves were introduced in other versions to balance this problem out. With them, Archmages could have a Damage/MP ratio closer to that of Bishops, perform better at bosses, and of course NOT BE THE SINGLE WORST CLASS IN THE GAME.
One of the key elements that should be present in any MMO game with a variety of classes, should be balance among the said classes. If these elemental weapons aren't made to benefit AMs, then no one would have any reason to play an Archmage over a Bishop.
Also, please don't throw NLC Pots into the argument, because they benefit Bishops as much as Archmages, which doesn't balance anything.
I appreciate this post, this is 100% true and factual and its coming from a very high lvl bishop which shows an open mind. I really hope Nexon fixes this and starts to think like you.
About Elemental wand - BladeHavoc - 2008-08-27
randompeep Wrote:Wow, they closed it right after I put it up. >.>
Probably, there's a filter, and if there's anything related to "Elemental Wands", it's closed.
IIRC, "Feedback" tickets are closed automatically. Try sending it under another category.
About Elemental wand - mrcowcow - 2008-08-27
I don't really quite see Guardians as a balancer for Archmages and Bishops. Even if their elements can't destroy them, ranged characters are still at a disadvantage towards those huge things. Crimsonwood Keep wasn't built for ranged classes. I can't imagine them training there, though I suppose they could. Somebody prove me wrong?
Bishops. Supposedly, Elemental Wands/Staves will decrease their power. Then what of those who are already putting them at use? When the elemental (dis)advantages are incorporated, wouldn't that... unbalance the Bishops since some of them already have them? And wouldn't that also cause complaints from their population? Nexon's made a grave error and tipped the economy sideways, forward, backward, whatever you want to call it. It's irreversible now unless they have a rollback, which isn't an option. It would cause even more panic and ruin more of the people's accomplishments.
About Elemental wand - Wani - 2008-08-27
I gotta agree with Pauru too. Elemental Staves aren't about magicians catching up to other jobs, they're about archmages catching up to bishops.
Besides, the idea is good in principle. I'd love to see elemental swords too.
About Elemental wand - b00t - 2008-08-27
elemental swords would make my heart soar. I never did consider the balance issue...PINEAPPLE YOU NEXON!!! (seriously, PINEAPPLE you)
About Elemental wand - butterfλi - 2008-08-27
b00t Wrote:elemental swords would make my heart soar. I never did consider the balance issue...PINEAPPLE YOU NEXON!!! (seriously, PINEAPPLE you)
Elemental swords are out. They're called "white knights".
The release of elemental swords would just defeat the purpose of making a wk. A crusader would be able to use it and gain the small advantage the wks have and they still have their combo attack--making them gain skills from both jobs.
About Elemental wand - LeonXIII - 2008-08-27
Wani Wrote:I gotta agree with Pauru too. Elemental Staves aren't about magicians catching up to other jobs, they're about archmages catching up to bishops.
Besides, the idea is good in principle. I'd love to see elemental swords too.
Wouldnt that render Paladins nigh useless? I mean, all you would see would be Elemental Sword 1h or 2h heros going around.
IMO, Fast speed weapons > Elemental weapons (for all 3 types of Warriors)
edit: got beat to it. Curse my slow typing.