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Do you believe in god? - Soapy - 2008-07-16
iiMarik Wrote:Anyone that say's 'everything that happens has a reason' is probably religious. Because god is the one to decide if you get punched today, or get key logged in a week or find a 50$ note on the floor.
When ever I seek answers, I flip a coin (got one next to me atm) because I know what ever I ask, and what ever it lands on, is what god is telling me to do/the answer he wants to give.
I'm sorry if this is considered flaming, but;
It's a fucking coin! It'll land on whatever side based on what side it was before, plus the wind conditions, humidity, your strength and the flick of your fingers. o__o;
Do you believe God controls EVERYTHING?
Your toilet roll ran out because God thought you should take a walk to the closet to get more to work out your legs?
You really think God controls the coins of all 6.5billion of us?
Do you believe in god? - Christian - 2008-07-16
It's funny watching everyone debate over whats real and whats not. xD
Religion=wars=death=why would a God want death?
lol @ that iimarik child calling people ignorant after people called her ignorant earlier.
Do you believe in god? - iiMarik - 2008-07-16
Brandini Wrote:Fine if you don't want me to use the term fairy tale I will call it theology but if that girl does not even know what an oxymoron is I doubt she will be able to keep up with theology.
How am I ignorant, Marik? I doubt you even know what that words mean, you just think its a defineless insult.
I am calling it a fact because its proven, while theology is just a belief system. Even though its a theory I consider it a fact since its the most proven theory out there but if you want to keep it technical I will call it a theory.
And calling religious people ignorant is not going overboard if these people were educated they would know that those things describe in the bible is not possible. So its ignorance or delusion that affects them.
You called believes in god, ignorant, why cant we say the same? Here you are bragging about me needing to go to school, calling religion fairy tales, seriously. Dude stop going overboard, you're just becoming a nuisance.
okay, wow. So now if we were educated properly, we would know bible says otherwise? If YOU were educated properly, you'd see why millions of people don't support homosexuality. Please, please STOP posting in this thread, you're really going overboard and angering people.
@ soapy: Yes.
@ blink, Excuse me? stop fucking calling me a child. I'm a teen. And Brandnini is one person, not 'people', have you learn't the difference?-_- (Reporting you)
Do you believe in god? - Soapy - 2008-07-16
iiMarik Wrote:You called believes in god, ignorant, why cant we say the same? Here you are bragging about me needing to go to school, calling religion fairy tales, seriously. Dude stop going overboard, you're just becoming a nuisance.
okay, wow. So now if we were educated properly, we would know bible says otherwise? If YOU were educated properly, you'd see why millions of people don't support homosexuality. Please, please STOP posting in this thread, you're really going overboard and angering people.
@ soapy: Yes.
Yes, what? Yes, you believe one magical floating guy in the sky we can't see controls all 6.5 billion people's coins every time they flip?
So you're saying I should just flip coins for everything I do for the rest of my life, because every single flip will be of God's decision?
Yeah so; why if I ask the same thing 10 times and flip 10 times, I don't always get the same answer?
Edit: What the heck are you reporting him for? He's right XD It's pretty funny. I don't think you knew what that word meant at all when you first used it.
Do you believe in god? - iiMarik - 2008-07-16
Soapy Wrote:Yes, what? Yes, you believe one magical floating guy in the sky we can't see controls all 6.5 billion people's coins every time they flip?
So you're saying I should just flip coins for everything I do for the rest of my life, because every single flip will be of God's decision?
Yeah so; why if I ask the same thing 10 times and flip 10 times, I don't always get the same answer?
First one :yes
No, it's all personal preference whether to flip a coin or not.I'm not suggesting anything to you.
If you got like 7 heads, 3 tails, then there's your answer.
Do you believe in god? - Soapy - 2008-07-16
iiMarik Wrote:If you got like 7 heads, 3 tails, then there's your answer.
So if I asked 'Should I eat ice-cream today' and I got 7 heads and 3 tails, what does that mean?
Do you believe in god? - Greg22 - 2008-07-16
xDae Wrote:I just hate the people that pray to God when its convienent for them. I hate people who never go to church.....never pray....and all of a sudden their mom gets cancer and they beg God for help.[/URL]
Lol, there's my post.
Do you believe in god? - iiMarik - 2008-07-16
Soapy Wrote:So if I asked 'Should I eat ice-cream today' and I got 7 heads and 3 tails, what does that mean?
Well, if you said Heads=Yes, then god recommends you eat it. If your yes was tails, then god does not recommend. ( ^_^ That's all what I think).
Do you believe in god? - WandererWillow - 2008-07-16
Here is my side on all this...
There are proofs that things do evolve. You see it all around. We have evolved into what we are today. However, there is no possible way this all just "happened". I have entertained all different beliefs and have seen what's real and what's just extremist. There are many that are religious that are far off the mark because they believe in a holier than thou mindset. However, while "some" things of evolution are true, that doesn't mean they all are.
Let's be honest...a random occurrence that created everything we see today in perfect form is just unbelievable. Also, alot of things with evolution have been disproven, and the "facts" behind them have been debunked. I'd suggest if you have a mindset dead on one side or another, take a step back and consider all possibilities. I don't believe many things in the Christian faith are real. I don't believe many things in the Evolutionary teachings are real. What I do believe is that we have evolved (as humans, not from another species) and we are here because of an intelligent mind, be it God or some other force.
Soapy Wrote:Yes, what? Yes, you believe one magical floating guy in the sky we can't see controls all 6.5 billion people's coins every time they flip?
I don't think believing one "magical floating guy in the sky we can't see" is any more ridiculous than believing that everything in existence today just randomly was created because of a "big bang". If I showed you a beautiful work of art, which would you believe: a masterful artist painted it, or it just "happened" on its own. However, time for the coin flip thing...
Do you believe in god? - iiMarik - 2008-07-16
WandererWillow Wrote:Here is my side on all this...
There are proofs that things do evolve. You see it all around. We have evolved into what we are today. However, there is no possible way this all just "happened". I have entertained all different beliefs and have seen what's real and what's just extremist. There are many that are religious that are far off the mark because they believe in a holier than thou mindset. However, while "some" things of evolution are true, that doesn't mean they all are.
Let's be honest...a random occurrence that created everything we see today in perfect form is just unbelievable. Also, alot of things with evolution have been disproven, and the "facts" behind them have been debunked. I'd suggest if you have a mindset dead on one side or another, take a step back and consider all possibilities. I don't believe many things in the Christian faith are real. I don't believe many things in the Evolutionary teachings are real. What I do believe is that we have evolved (as humans, not from another species) and we are here because of an intelligent mind, be it God.
QFT.
This is a pro reply, not one calling believers 'ignorant' Cough.
Do you believe in god? - Soapy - 2008-07-16
iiMarik Wrote:Well, if you said Heads=Yes, then god recommends you eat it. If your yes was tails, then god does not recommend. ( ^_^ That's all what I think).You didn't really answer about the 7heads/3tails thing.
Are there 10 different Gods with different decision making skills?
Are 3 of them [the 3 tails] nutritionists?
Edit: By the way, what's QTF?
Do you believe in god? - iiMarik - 2008-07-16
Soapy Wrote:You didn't really answer about the 7heads/3tails thing.
Are there 10 different Gods with different decision making skills?
Are 3 of them [the 3 tails] nutritionists?
Edit: By the way, what's QTF?
You asked what 7 heads 3 tails meant, so I answered.
No there is one god, one mighty god
one god that decides what will land when you flip a coin.Quoted for truth
Do you believe in god? - Lady - 2008-07-16
Well, what do we have here, another religious debate?
Many many clients come to me for answers.. and I just tell them what I believe is the truth. Many come really depressed and ask my advice on what to do, I tell them what to do, but on a side note I recommend they pray to god because he can walk the walk, all I can do is suggest the talk the talk.
Do you believe in god? - WandererWillow - 2008-07-16
Ok, iiMarik, just...stop. God does not control everything. In fact, God controls a hell of a lot less than you'd imagine. Coin flips are random. Many things in life tend to be random. Claiming that God goes that far is putting you in an extremist mindset on things. You end up being like those "holier than thou" people that make the Christian faith a mockery.
You're not southern baptist, are you?
(By the way, still a christian here, don't believe in the big bang or whatever...so evolutionists, I'm not siding with you)
Do you believe in god? - Soapy - 2008-07-16
iiMarik Wrote:You asked what 7 heads 3 tails meant, so I answered.
No there is one god, one mighty god
Quoted for truth
Quoted for truth is QFT, not QTF.
You didn't answer o_o; I asked specifically what it means if I get 7 heads and 3 tails for my 'flip answer' and you just said that a head means I should eat it while tails means I shouldn't. But in this case I got both; what does that mean?
Do you believe in god? - WandererWillow - 2008-07-16
Soapy Wrote:Quoted for truth is QFT, not QTF.
You didn't answer o_o; I asked specifically what it means if I get 7 heads and 3 tails for my 'flip answer' and you just said that a head means I should eat it while tails means I shouldn't. But in this case I got both; what does that mean?
It means that God doesn't control every single thing in the universe. I agree with you here, random occurrences =/= God's will.
Do you believe in god? - iiMarik - 2008-07-16
WandererWillow Wrote:Ok, iiMarik, just...stop. God does not control everything. In fact, God controls a hell of a lot less than you'd imagine. Coin flips are random. Many things in life tend to be random. Claiming that God goes that far is putting you in an extremist mindset on things. You end up being like those "holier than thou" people that make the Christian faith a mockery.
You're not southern baptist, are you?
(By the way, still a christian here, don't believe in the big bang or whatever...so evolutionists, I'm not siding with you)
Wow, just stop what? everyone is discussing what they think, I'm not flaming anyone, calling them ignorant or calling their religion fairy tales am I? Like you, I have my own beliefs. You may think god does less then what I think, but that's your opinion. I;m sorry Im not going to change that belief because you think its not true.
@soapy. M'dearrrrrrrrr, I do not understand what you're asking!!! make it more clear.
Do you believe in god? - WandererWillow - 2008-07-16
iiMarik Wrote:Wow, just stop what? everyone is discussing what they think, I'm not flaming anyone, calling them ignorant or calling their religion fairy tales am I? Like you, I have my own beliefs. You may think god does less then what I think, but that's your opinion. I;m sorry Im not going to change that belief because you think its not true.
@soapy. M'dearrrrrrrrr, I do not understand what you're asking!!! make it more clear.
Most people enjoy having a faith in something because it's good to have something to believe in. Even if God isn't real, at the end of their life they probably ended up enjoying it a little more because they went with what they believed in. Now, if they went the extra distance into the bad lands and tried to force that upon others, then shame on them. People can live their life and believe what they choose. Can we prove which is real? No. Christianity has it's "proof". So does evolution. Still, there is nothing definitive that points to one way or another. Even if it did, it probably would be tainted by added beliefs left and right (see: any major religion or belief in existence, to include non-religious).
And I'm telling you to stop going on and on about how God controls everything and how everything is fate, because if it is, there is no such thing as free will. Everything that happens here happens for a reason, but that reason isn't always "God's Will".
Do you believe in god? - xKamalia - 2008-07-16
guys plz no fighting.
i dont want anyone to be flamed or hurt,.
Do you believe in god? - WandererWillow - 2008-07-16
Best explanation that God doesn't control everything.
Mitch Hedberg is dead.
Dane Cook still lives.
Game over.