Phantom SP Build.

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Originally Posted by Mazz

Do you call everyone that doesn't understand you the first time a retard?

"Hey, what time is it?" "Sorry?" "ARE YOU RETARDED? WHAT THE F'UCK IS THE TIME?"

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Yes, offcourse. And you are right. It was a really hard question.

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Originally Posted by Enzyme

I think I asked it in a generally accepted way the first time? When he can't answer the question because he either doesn't read it or doesn't understand. He probably doesn't know so I'm not asking him for a favor, am I?

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He didn't read your 'Under the left column' part. He glanced at what you asked, checked the video, and replied to help you out, a minute after you asked. Since when is misunderstanding(or not even looking at) one thing a sign of retardation?
&It'd be asking a favor regardless of whether the other person knew the answer or not.

So noone knows what it is or noone wants to tell me?

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Originally Posted by Enzyme

So noone knows what it is or noone wants to tell me?

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Originally Posted by Locked

Are you retarded?
That's Mental Clarity but obviously I guess I'm the retard for not knowing. Also it's spelled "retard" you know, with a d. Way to overreact.

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Originally Posted by Mazz

Do you call everyone that doesn't understand you the first time a retard?

"Hey, what time is it?" "Sorry?" "ARE YOU RETARDED? WHAT THE F'UCK IS THE TIME?"

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Actually it's pretty common in Dutch to curse people, most English speaking people just have to get used to the cursing lands of the Netherworld. :P

Just call him koekwaus next time, he doesn't get offended by that since he doesn't know all the Dutch curses! :+)

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Aaaaaaaanyyyway back to Phantom, I just saw that Phantom video and there was something new to it, you can place previous job stolen skills in next job stolen skills. Like: you can use Power Guard in 2nd job and Hyperbody in the 3rd job (or 4th job) skill holder. Or use Poison Mist and Dragon Roar, or Holy Symbol and Combat Orders, etc, etc.

Sure you would lose other skills which may be more important to some people, but this can be very useful information for weird extraordinary skill builds addicts like myself! :cool:

Also question regarding attack buffs, can you use multiple watt buffs at the same time? I know Rage stacks with Advanced Bless, but is this for all att buff skills now?

Like: Rage (+30watt) + Mental Clarity (+30watt) + Moon Light (+30watt) + Dark Serenity (+40watt) all together (total +130watt)?

Or do they cancel each other out?

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Originally Posted by Mazz

"Hey, what time is it?" "Sorry?" "ARE YOU RETARDED? WHAT THE F'UCK IS THE TIME?"

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He didn't say "Sorry?" so your theory is flawed.
My reaction wouldn't be this way when he asked for further information. However it seems that he only read the first sentence.

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Originally Posted by Enzyme

He didn't say "Sorry?" so your theory is flawed.

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You're right, he didn't, he tried answering your question instead of acting like he didn't hear you at all.

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My reaction wouldn't be this way when he asked for further information. However it seems that he only read the first sentence.

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You should have included the column part before posting the video link, it's not his fault.

Anyway, you got the answer to your question(twice, since you didn't read the first time), move on.

Am so hyped for this class, totally using this for my build, @Locked;. Thanks. :B

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Originally Posted by ¬Rob

You should have included the column part before posting the video link, it's not his fault.

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So people should only read the first sentence and then post a reply?

And I figured the mental clarity was directed to mental retardation or whatever. My bad.

'Move on'. You have the answer to your damn question.

Would you recommend Meso Guard to be stolen/used at bossed that can 1/1? Relying on pet pots to save me in 1/1 situations doesn't always work out, but my shad never died when it happens due to MG.

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Originally Posted by ¬Rob

'Move on'. You have the answer to your damn question.

Would you recommend Meso Guard to be stolen/used at bossed that can 1/1? Relying on pet pots to save me in 1/1 situations doesn't always work out, but my shad never died when it happens due to MG.

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With Thief revamp you won't get hit allot on 150+, so IMO no.

*BUMP* Anyone?

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Originally Posted by Devil

Also question regarding attack buffs, can you use multiple watt buffs at the same time? I know Rage stacks with Advanced Bless, but is this for all att buff skills now?

Like: Rage (+30watt) + Mental Clarity (+30watt) + Moon Light (+30watt) + Dark Serenity (+40watt) all together (total +130watt)?

Or do they cancel each other out?

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Originally Posted by ¬Rob

'Move on'. You have the answer to your damn question.

Would you recommend Meso Guard to be stolen/used at bossed that can 1/1? Relying on pet pots to save me in 1/1 situations doesn't always work out, but my shad never died when it happens due to MG.

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I would use power guard, as I mentioned to Danny and Joe when we we're playing Phantom, they're essentially the same, except Power Guard doesn't cost you mesos.

Yes, thieves have high avoid, but damage reduction buffs are invaluable when you don't avoid, especially in maps with pot cooldown. Better safe than dead.

And, @Devil; it depends on the buff, really, but Moon Light and Mental Clarity have stacked for me. Well, there's buffs that stack and buffs that don't, for example bless stacks, but until the warrior revamp after Mikhail, Rage doesn't, but you can use Bless and Rage because Bless can stack, but if you use Karma, it'll cancel out rage because neither rage or karma are stacking buffs. I'm pretty sure Mental Clarity is like Karma, so in your example, you could combine Moonlight and Dark Serenity with either Rage or Mental Clarity.

I'm inclined to agree with you on Power Guard, with the notable exception of bosses whose reflect is triggered by it. Last I heard there are still a few like that - in situations like that Meso Guard is preferable.

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Originally Posted by Exidous

I'm inclined to agree with you on Power Guard, with the notable exception of bosses whose reflect is triggered by it. Last I heard there are still a few like that - in situations like that Meso Guard is preferable.

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Odd that a reflect skill can be reflected back again... lol :+)

Anyway, Meso Guard also has an advantage of not aggro-ing other monsters since it doesn't reflect touch damage.

But as a non-NX user, I always hated the meso costs of meso guard... especially later on at high damage touch monsters...

Does stolen Power Guard reduce the character knockback like it does on warriors too? I'd probably go Meso Guard just because I prefer the animation to be honest.

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Originally Posted by Devil

Odd that a reflect skill can be reflected back again... lol :+)

Anyway, Meso Guard also has an advantage of not aggro-ing other monsters since it doesn't reflect touch damage.

But as a non-NX user, I always hated the meso costs of meso guard... especially later on at high damage touch monsters...

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What?! How are you even capable of trying to make that relevant?

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Originally Posted by Mazz

Does stolen Power Guard reduce the character knockback like it does on warriors too? I'd probably go Meso Guard just because I prefer the animation to be honest.

What?! How are you even capable of trying to make that relevant?

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Because potion costs are still a pain in the ass for people who don't spend shietloads on NX...

But I can understand this is totally shocking and new for some people... trying to reduce potion costs... meso saving tactics... so absurd...

Thread is not about nx, do not discuss it further. Thread is about Phantom SP builds.

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Originally Posted by Exidous

I'm inclined to agree with you on Power Guard, with the notable exception of bosses whose reflect is triggered by it. Last I heard there are still a few like that - in situations like that Meso Guard is preferable.

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Power Guard doesn't do anything besides reflect damage and aggro the monster (if it hasn't been aggro'd already). DR doesn't reflect Power Guard back.

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Originally Posted by Bomber

Power Guard doesn't do anything besides reflect damage and aggro the monster (if it hasn't been aggro'd already). DR doesn't reflect Power Guard back.

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and reduce damage taken :P

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Originally Posted by valhala556

and reduce damage taken :P

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WELL THANKS FOR THE REMINDER.