[1.2.406] Skill revamp, Ellin Boss, Halloween

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2011-10-21, 10:18 PM
Seanny

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Originally Posted by Killmeplsok

By the way this blogspot post has something caught my eye.

Woah, looks like Nexon did listen.

OH GOSH YES. PARTY GRINDS NO LONGER SUCK FOR ME.

I'm happy enough for that but i still would have liked a transparency slider on the skills, to avoid getting lost in the action.
2011-10-21, 10:19 PM
Yorckie

When is this content supossed to hit the live server? Any date announced?
2011-10-21, 10:19 PM
Sorien

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Originally Posted by Fiel

It's the only new color. No one will want him anyway since he's 100 speed.

I really hope it has some sort of saving grace. Does it do anything special, like raising the speed cap from 190% to 200%, or is it just an awesome looking jaguar with crap stats and no use? :f6:
2011-10-21, 10:23 PM
Alilatias

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Originally Posted by Fiel

It's the only new color. No one will want him anyway since he's 100 speed.

Eww. I'm hoping Nexon Korea changes that soon, because that would be crappy for something that is supposed to be the WH's prize for completing that Maple Alliance questline or something like that, AFAIK.
2011-10-21, 10:30 PM
Eliseo

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Originally Posted by Sorien

I know, but the possibility is still present, which is all I'm really concerned with. Also, shortly after I started this post I remembered one of my guild mates saying that Decent Hyper body wasn't stacking with Spirit Link, so I guess Hyper Body pants aren't as much of an issue for Archers, and not as much for Wild Hunters either since Decent Hyper Body doesn't stack with Feline Berserk either (though that one has a cooldown). Pirates are still boned by Nexon's laziness with making armor, but if Stirgman Pants can have their genders swapped, then they're far better off than they used to be.

People would curse any Wild Hunter that used Stinkbomb Shot on a boss. Bonus exp is nice, but the skill also increases the monster's defense (and maybe attack). Not only that, but Stinkbomb Shot is a carbon copy of Taunt, but with a much longer delay.

Didn't Stinkbomb no longer increased monster def?

EDIT: Unless chemical shell is another skill.

http://orangemushroom.wordpress.com/...eorganization/
2011-10-21, 10:30 PM
Viaje

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Originally Posted by Fiel

It's the only new color. No one will want him anyway since he's 100 speed.

Um... what?
Why wouldn't people want him? He's a cool looking color.

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Originally Posted by Sorien

I really hope it has some sort of saving grace. Does it do anything special, like raising the speed cap from 190% to 200%, or is it just an awesome looking jaguar with crap stats and no use? :f6:

What is it you mean by "crap stats and no use"?

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Originally Posted by Alilatias

Eww. I'm hoping Nexon Korea changes that soon, because that would be crappy for something that is supposed to be the WH's prize for completing that Maple Alliance questline or something like that, AFAIK.

I don't get why you people are saying the new looking jaguar is crappy.
Personally, I think it looks much better than the regular Jaira.

I'll certainly be using one because I don't plan to make a hobby of trying to get the regular Jaira just for a bit more speed.
Personally, I think those who choose to waste time waiting around for the rarer Jaira deserve to have a bit of a bonus rather than those who complete what are bound to be fairly simple quests.
2011-10-21, 10:43 PM
Sorien

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Originally Posted by Viaje

Um... what?
Why wouldn't people want him? He's a cool looking color.

What is it you mean by "crap stats and no use"?

I don't get why you people are saying the new looking jaguar is crappy.
Personally, I think it looks much better than the regular Jaira.

I'll certainly be using one because I don't plan to make a hobby of trying to get the regular Jaira just for a bit more speed.
Personally, I think those who choose to waste time waiting around for the rarer Jaira deserve to have a bit of a bonus rather than those who complete what are bound to be fairly simple quests.

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Originally Posted by Fiel

It's the only new color. No one will want him anyway since he's 100 speed.

Read the bolded part of Fiel's post. The jaguar isn't a boost at all, it's a nerf to anyone who decides to use it. All of the normal jaguars have 140 speed, and Jaira has 160 speed, while this one only has 100 speed. In other words, using this new jaguar would have no use, as all it does is make the player into a normal archer with a taller hit-box. I could understand it adding 150 speed or something to reward people who go out of their way to get it, but this is just crap.
2011-10-21, 10:48 PM
JoeTang

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Originally Posted by Sorien

Read the bolded part of Fiel's post. The jaguar isn't a boost at all, it's a nerf to anyone who decides to use it. All of the normal jaguars have 140 speed, and Jaira has 160 speed, while this one only has 100 speed. In other words, using this new jaguar would have no use, as all it does is make the player into a normal archer with a taller hit-box. I could understand it adding 150 speed or something to reward people who go out of their way to get it, but this is just crap.

All Jaguars have 100 Speed except Jaira, who has 120 Speed. Has anyone other than Viaje ever played a Wild Hunter?
2011-10-21, 10:52 PM
Sorien

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Originally Posted by JoeTang

All Jaguars have 100 Speed except Jaira, who has 120 Speed. Has anyone other than Viaje ever played a Wild Hunter?

Huh, I was under the impression that 100 speed meant the player would have 100% speed while riding it. So I guess this means that Jaguar Riding adding 40 speed isn't as misleading as I thought it was. Well, alright then, but I still think that the new Jaguar should have more use than just looking pretty.
2011-10-21, 10:53 PM
ShinkuDragon

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Originally Posted by JoeTang

All Jaguars have 100 Speed except Jaira, who has 120 Speed. Has anyone other than Viaje ever played a Wild Hunter?

wasn't it 140/160?
2011-10-21, 10:58 PM
JoeTang

Am I wrong?
2011-10-21, 10:58 PM
SwordStaker

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Originally Posted by Max

Ellin Forest has been reorganized! As you can see, it now has a world map! There is also a questline now, where Spiegelmann sends you to investigate the mysterious area and you end up helping Helena to protect the Altaire Camp!

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There is also a questline now, where Spiegelmann sends you to investigate the mysterious area

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Spiegelmann

HOLY CRAP....INB4 SPIEGELMANN'S MONSTER RANCH OR SOMETHING.
2011-10-21, 10:59 PM
Fiel

JoeTang is correct.
2011-10-21, 10:59 PM
JoeTang

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Originally Posted by Fiel

JoeTang is correct.

Thank you.
2011-10-21, 11:00 PM
ShinkuDragon

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Originally Posted by JoeTang

Am I wrong?

i dunno, never played a WH, never will, hence why i asked.

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Originally Posted by SwordStaker

HOLY CRAP....INB4 SPIEGELMANN'S MONSTER RANCH OR SOMETHING.

<insert spiegelmann is the black mage theory here>
2011-10-21, 11:00 PM
ShinkuDragon

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Originally Posted by JoeTang

Am I wrong?

i dunno, never played a WH, never will, hence why i asked.

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Originally Posted by SwordStaker

HOLY CRAP....INB4 SPIEGELMANN'S MONSTER RANCH OR SOMETHING.

<insert spiegelmann is the black mage theory here>
2011-10-21, 11:02 PM
HighOnMushrooms

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Originally Posted by Eliseo

Didn't Stinkbomb no longer increased monster def?

EDIT: Unless chemical shell is another skill.

http://orangemushroom.wordpress.com/...eorganization/

Yup, Chemical Shell is Stink Bomb.
2011-10-21, 11:15 PM
Viaje

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Originally Posted by Sorien

Read the bolded part of Fiel's post. The jaguar isn't a boost at all, it's a nerf to anyone who decides to use it. All of the normal jaguars have 140 speed, and Jaira has 160 speed, while this one only has 100 speed. In other words, using this new jaguar would have no use, as all it does is make the player into a normal archer with a taller hit-box. I could understand it adding 150 speed or something to reward people who go out of their way to get it, but this is just crap.

Like moths to a shotgun-rigged flame.

For the record, I never said nor implied that it was a boost. Quite the contrary, I made it pretty clear that it was just a fancy coat while questioning why everyone believed it was a step back.
If regular jaguars had 140 speed, every WH would be running around with at least 180 speed.
2011-10-21, 11:25 PM
Sorien

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Originally Posted by Viaje

Like moths to a shotgun-rigged flame.

If regular jaguars had 140 speed, every WH would be running around with at least 180 speed.

I will admit, I was wrong. I was under the impression that the normal jaguars had 140 speed, similar to how other mounts have their own speed settings that ignore the cap (though this could be another false assumption on my part). Looking back, it was silly of me to think this, as the Jaguar Riding skill even states that it adds 40 speed, which would fit quite nicely with what Joe said, since I have 160% speed while I'm riding Jaira.

I had said something along these lines a bit further up on the page, but I probably wasn't as clear as I could have been.

This does not, however, mean that I'm not a bit disappointed with the new Jaguar. It is pretty, yes, but I would like it to be better than normal Jaguars. It doesn't have to be as good as the original Jaira, but I would like it to be more than just a Shiny Jaguar.
2011-10-21, 11:28 PM
ChaosH

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Mech: Siege Mode:
Changed - Level readout (MP #mpCon 소비, #time초간 전환, #damage% 데미지\n#c재사용 대기시간 #cooltime초# --> MP #mpCon 소비, #time초간 전환, #damage% 데미지\n)
New - w (22) (20+roundUp(level/10))
Removed - cooltime
Removed - time

Cooldown-less Siege Mode? :glitter:

Now give back Mechanics' Drillhands old speed (OK, maybe not so fast) and reduce Rock'n'Shock cooldown to 60 seconds. The resurrection of the perfect KS'ing machine!

(and don't forget physical training!)

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