Harrisonized Wrote:While that is true, without these pots, nobody but the rich would be training with the ultimates. HEck, the only people training would be those that are bent on leveling. Which means the other people will focus on making money, which means more monopolizing of Horntail, Zakum, and selling leech. And finally, which is unfortunate because it'll destroy the certain social structure of present-day MS.



Note though, that they didn't remove the only gold sink, they merely reduced the value of the sink.

modular Wrote:dont misquote wikipedia at me. im still right. if you want a meso sink, you must remove a meso from the economy, not just let it change hands.

applying "any amount of mesos" in scrolls does not remove mesos from the economy, only from your wallet. this removes scrolls from the economy when you use them and serves as a scroll sink. which, like stereo said, helps scroll prices inflate..

modular Wrote:in addition, no untradable item is truely removed from the economy because you could sell your account. the fact that this is against the ToS is irrelevant because black and grey markets exist everywhere.

modular Wrote:lol. how long have you been playing?

modular Wrote:nexon did a very dumb thing a while ago, back when they released nlc.
they released the pots. that was dumb. if you want the cause of inflation today, blame the pots.

yeah, youll say "but those pots are the only pots worth buying"! exactly. because it used to have some semblance of balance. now it doesnt.
nexon decimated the only significant meso sink in the whole game.

lets say i train every day, and use 100 honsters. that costs 280k. if i were to buy reindeer milk like i had to before nlc, i would spend 540k (ugh its been so long i cant remember the price). nexon cut my pot cost in half! now lets extend this to mages... well pre-nlc, mages would buy elixirs. they got up to 8k each. mana bulls are the same 2800. nexon quartered pot costs for mages!

now lets say that across windia, maybe 5000 people train like i do every day, and 1/2 are mages nowadays. you just introduced about 2b in meso into the economy from people saving on pots instead of spending. EVERY DAY. its been like 500 days or so since nlc got released, roughly estimating. who the pineapple has 1t mesos they arent supposed to have? everybody.

did you ever wonder about inflation? if you can understand this, now you know why it happened.

modular Wrote:it isnt because nexon introduced a scroll worth 1b. its because you spent less on pots every day. and so did everyone else.

now obviously, this example is the exact opposite of what you asked for. but in comparison, the introduction of a quest that costs 5m, mounts, guild expansions, hmm what else... gem grading! which we dont have yet! they all seem pretty insignificant in comparison because none of them have the staying power (i.e. repeatability) that halving or quartering pot costs has.

modular Wrote:the sword scrolls you complain are 1b wouldnt be more than 200m if we didnt have nlc pots. and i can be sure about that price because i can still enter the old mindset of "oh damn, im going to lose money when i train today". the new mindset of "wow, soloing pap is profitable if i npc the pots!" is vaguely satisfying, but i would happily give up a honster if nexon truely cared to deflate the economy long term.

maybe they havent noticed, or they have and are trying to play you and whet your appetite for the next facestomper, chaos scroll, scg, pac, deputy star, or ele wand X. but its a very fine balance to strike, trying to make sure net in = net out, and nlc pots have tipped the scales.

do you comprehend what i am saying? i truly want to get my point across here. because i really DO want you to stop perpetuating the crap i quoted before.

nighthawkspt Wrote:In regards to the lunchbox. Anyone gotten a gm scroll lately or am I wasting my time trying to get one from nightshadow badges?

nighthawkspt Wrote:It seems you can redeem badges all the time now with no limit? I just redeemed two sets of windraiders in a row.

VarsityHero Wrote:

Harrisonized Wrote:I saw another GM scroll today and wondered, did anyone actually complete scrolling their lunchbox?

Also, I saw the thread about range and wondered whether the Lunchbox provides a decent range or is it just only capable of attacking monsters close to your body or something.

MyHarryThing Wrote:They may come from Perion gachapon. I saw a store with a GM scroll up for 1.5bil, and the title was <3 perion gach.

Harrisonized Wrote:Yea I saw that store too. 18/18 on Scania right? I walked in and it was pretty cheap considering you can probably get maxed meso for that. There's one in MTS for $1,100...

There's no confirmation that it's actually from Perion gach though. As of now, we only have screenshots telling us that it's purely from CWK exchange...

Still looking for someone with a maxed scrolled one.

Harrisonized Wrote:Also, I saw the thread about range and wondered whether the Lunchbox provides a decent range or is it just only capable of attacking monsters close to your body or something.

Harrisonized Wrote:I saw another GM scroll today and wondered, did anyone actually complete scrolling their lunchbox?

Also, I saw the thread about range and wondered whether the Lunchbox provides a decent range or is it just only capable of attacking monsters close to your body or something.

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KatanaKiwi Wrote:...

that's how it is for heroes, paladins dont have brandish ofcourse so yes for paladins lunchbox short rangs is a huge problem and also the main reason why then dont use them as much.