Berzerk Wrote:The one thing I learned is that Science trumps everything. If you have proof supporting something, then it's true. We have proof that Evolution has happened. We have no proof of some 'Higher Being' creating the universe, or the world we live in today. The Bible isn't proof, it's merely a book. And it's nothing more than that.

IsaacGS Wrote:It's pointless to ask "What existed before the universe?" because there was no "before" the universe. Time started existing simultaneously with space. Before either existed, there was nothing. It's pointless to discuss the nothing because it's nothing, and not the "vacuum of space" nothing, I mean REAL nothing. Not white or black or anything at all.

All matter in the universe was condensed into a point so small that the pressure was enormous. Eventually it burst forth and expanded and in seconds the universe was born. Over time things randomly occurred and here we are. People don't like to think that it's random luck that we exist, so they made up reasons to make humans special. In reality it's simple probability: with the infinite number of stars out there, at least one of them was bound to develop intelligent life. More than likely there's thousands of other intelligent life forms in our own galaxy, and untold millions, billions in the universe as a whole. We'll never even be able to meet some of them because even traveling at the speed of light we could never reach the other side before the universe ended.

Rain Wrote:I like to think of it in a way more difficult yet simpler explanation. Space and beyond had no beginning. It was always there. and always will be. and since we live in a world where everything has a beginning and an end, its impossible to imagine and is a kinda scary thought.

Lylac Wrote:Space had a beginning and there's already evidence to support that. If space had no beginning, then the sky would be brighter than anything you can imagine because of all the light from an eternity's worth of stars, but this isn't the case obviously since stars die and each consecutive nebula produces dimmer and dimmer stars, yet we still have a wide range of stars. What I dislike about certain religions is that if a phenomenon cannot be explained by science, it must have a supernatural power associated with it.

xkatiie Wrote:From what I can tell, no one is arguing about anything. They are simply stating their opinions about things.

Sn1perJohnE Wrote:Heres a bit of good oddness in the bible that my anthropology teacher told my class one day: There are 2! versions of the creation story, one after another. The first says that the world was made, then man, then plants and animals, and later woman. The second says that the world was made, then plants and animals, then man, and later woman. Really throws a wrench in you plans for world domination when you give two different versions of how things came to be huh?

Hazzy Wrote:It's startling how often religious people try to convert me. <_<

Cardboardsnail Wrote:The bible discourages forcing religion on people


"Never give what is holy to dogs or throw your pearls before pigs. Otherwise, they will trample them with their feet and then turn around and attack you."
-Matthew 7:6

Hazzy Wrote:Odd how often it happens, isn't it?

Cardboardsnail Wrote:The bible discourages forcing religion on people


"Never give what is holy to dogs or throw your pearls before pigs. Otherwise, they will trample them with their feet and then turn around and attack you."
-Matthew 7:6

Cardboardsnail Wrote:The bible discourages forcing religion on people


"Never give what is holy to dogs or throw your pearls before pigs. Otherwise, they will trample them with their feet and then turn around and attack you."
-Matthew 7:6

Raven Wrote:Now I'm waiting for an evangelist to post. LOL.

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IsaacGS Wrote:It's pointless to ask "What existed before the universe?" because there was no "before" the universe. Time started existing simultaneously with space. Before either existed, there was nothing. It's pointless to discuss the nothing because it's nothing, and not the "vacuum of space" nothing, I mean REAL nothing. Not white or black or anything at all.

All matter in the universe was condensed into a point so small that the pressure was enormous. Eventually it burst forth and expanded and in seconds the universe was born. Over time things randomly occurred and here we are. People don't like to think that it's random luck that we exist, so they made up reasons to make humans special. In reality it's simple probability: with the infinite number of stars out there, at least one of them was bound to develop intelligent life. More than likely there's thousands of other intelligent life forms in our own galaxy, and untold millions, billions in the universe as a whole. We'll never even be able to meet some of them because even traveling at the speed of light we could never reach the other side before the universe ended.

Hazzy Wrote:Wait, I just read that(lol), and what is it saying? :f6:
I don't see religion in that at all. o_o I read that as "Keep the good stuff for yourself, or they'll be ungrateful and you'll get attacked" which is not something we should be teaching kids. .__.

Cardboardsnail Wrote:It's actually supposed to mean "Don't force religion on someone who won't appreciate it"

Chompy Wrote:Where did the matter for the Big Bang come from?

Quote:If all matter was infinitely condensed in the pre-bang what was around it?

Hazzy Wrote:We can't know what happened before the Big Bang, it's not possible.

Brandini Wrote:At one point it was thought to be impossible to know how old the Earth was or what the moon was made.

Its probably not impossible to understand more of the universe's heritage, we are just not smart enough or our technology is not evolved enough to figure out these questions.