RED update thoughts and feedback

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Originally Posted by Marksman Bryan

Nexon's left the game up way too long, I'm completely expecting some kind of hellban (doubt they'd RB again so soon) and then letting exploiters walk free and give them compensation to top it off.

1.6k gain per trade means some sort of buy/resell bot can easily make 1b+/hr prob more like 50m an hour but that's still a lot

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BAM, USC incoming. :f3:

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Originally Posted by icephoenix21

I'll post this here as well, because I cannot figure it out and maybe more people will see it here:

So I went to the real Leafre cuz I wanted to change my hair.

Anyone know how to get back to mirror Leafre (or whatever it's called lol).

Edit: also, incoming USM

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Use the skill to teleport back to the Mirror World, then use the Mirror World portal to go back to Mirror Leafre.

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Originally Posted by Endgame

Use the skill to teleport back to the Mirror World, then use the Mirror World portal to go back to Mirror Leafre.

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I use the mirror skill and then when I go to Leafre, it just takes me to the regular one?

Well, that's odd.

maintenance announced in game

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Originally Posted by icephoenix21

I use the mirror skill and then when I go to Leafre, it just takes me to the regular one?

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You're using the wrong portal. The portal to the Mirror World dungeons is in the center, not the right.

Anyway.. my favorite part of Mirror Leafre:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...6/horntail.png

that is all.

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Originally Posted by ResistGreen

Didn't know where else to post this, so....
http://i.imgur.com/2V1OI5y.jpg

Note how you can sell them to the shop for more than you can buy them.
Gollux shop btw.

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Wait the Gollux shop sells most of the throwing stars??!

1. Are they transferrable?
2. Is there any special or restrictive requirements to getting to that shop?

commerci: totally impressed how this feel like a completly new high level area... we always for high lvl content we get "sad" "darkness" "crawling in my skin" content and it actually sometimes makes the gameplay more boring to me...

zero: got bored after 1hour of gameplay... then I noticed i was doing everything wrong so yeah now I'm really enjoying them

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Originally Posted by IllegallySane

Wait the Gollux shop sells most of the throwing stars??!

1. Are they transferrable?
2. Is there any special or restrictive requirements to getting to that shop?

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I think you have to do the Gollux prequests unless it's possible to door someone in. :f1:

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Originally Posted by IllegallySane

Wait the Gollux shop sells most of the throwing stars??!

1. Are they transferrable?
2. Is there any special or restrictive requirements to getting to that shop?

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1. They're tradable. Normal throwing stars.
2. You have to do the Crimsonheart and Tynerum quests to get to Gollux. The requirement is level 130 (or 140?).

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Originally Posted by TugboatWilly

I think you have to do the Gollux prequests unless it's possible to door someone in. :f1:

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Can't door or hyper rock in. Haven't tried family teleport. So AFAIK, you have to go through the labyrinth every time.

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Originally Posted by Jedward

Can't door or hyper rock in. Haven't tried family teleport. So AFAIK, you have to go through the labyrinth every time.

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You can hyper into the heart map (you can save it), and I summoned someone in the other day.

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Originally Posted by emailbox

lol I seriously doubt they'll rollback for that.. Consider the profit margin sucks ass, and they don't stack on top of each other (even if you emptied your maxed out USE tab you'd only get like 80? stars at once, which is a grand total of less than 200k in profit) it would take forever to make any decent amount of profit on the item. Most likely they'll just up the price of the stars and leave it at that in an emergency maint if any other issues come up.

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Of course they have an USM less than two hours after I post that and I'm going to eat my words.
Edit: the throwing star issue isn't part of the USM notes?

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to fix an exploit that impacts the economy.

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Okay nevermind. I still doubt it'll be a rollback though, really wasn't up that long (and the impact was pretty minimal unlike the last one).

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Originally Posted by Grey

You can hyper into the heart map (you can save it), and I summoned someone in the other day.

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You need to do the prequests to go into the actual boss I think though.

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Originally Posted by Jedward

Can't door or hyper rock in. Haven't tried family teleport. So AFAIK, you have to go through the labyrinth every time.

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I actually used Hyper tele to get there. I was in the map that was just outside the crimsonwood house and I had the map before Gollux's heart saved to my rock list. So it is possible to skip the labyrinth.

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Originally Posted by icephoenix21

I actually used Hyper tele to get there. I was in the map that was just outside the crimsonwood house and I had the map before Gollux's heart saved to my rock list. So it is possible to skip the labyrinth.

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Oh, you can save THAT map?

Good info. Awesome. :love:

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Originally Posted by Onion Knight

Kind of strange. As of v144 I apparently have 55784/46890 HP on my Kanna. It extends past the end of my HP bar and the upper limit goes up even when I use HB (64818/54804 HP then). Also my max clean range has gone up by 63k and total Matk has gone up by 21 for no immediately apparent reason compared to when I logged off yesterday. This doesn't go away when relogging.

Were there any changes to the way things worked this patch?

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I was so distracted by Zero I didn't even notice this.
I've heard of other people's Kanna's suddenly taking steroids too. I haven't gone on mine yet, I will do once the game is back up, can't wait to see how much my range is increased.

Kanna MA gains might be attached to the weird HP gains.
They have a beginner skill that adds more MA as you get more max HP and all.

Kanna glitch is probably the +MP -> HP thing going wacky

Just to be completely sure, you can't do Commerci quests unless you've finished the Tynerum quests, right? I didn't try going directly there, as I wanted to start my Zero, but trying to accept Neinheart's pop-up quest for it was telling me I needed to finish Tynerum.

If that's the case, I'm rather upset about that. There's no way I can finish the Tynerum quests due to the immense lag I get in the labyrinth.

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Originally Posted by FoolsLove

Just to be completely sure, you can't do Commerci quests unless you've finished the Tynerum quests, right? I didn't try going directly there, as I wanted to start my Zero, but trying to accept Neinheart's pop-up quest for it was telling me I needed to finish Tynerum.

If that's the case, I'm rather upset about that. There's no way I can finish the Tynerum quests due to the immense lag I get in the labyrinth.

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I was getting that lag too and I just turned the graphic of effects/skills to low and it went away since the lag comes from some overall effect that makes the maps b/w.

Not sure how I feel about Zero. I think I'm playing it wrong.

Could just be because I'm low level but there doesn't seem to be a point to switching between Alpha and Beta when Alpha's basic combination does so much work on its own.