RED update thoughts and feedback

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Originally Posted by Mazz

Commerci is so cool. I've maxed out my energy for now though, it resets at midnight PST right? So I can't finish the 15 trades quest til then?
I'm at 13 I think, with like 4 energy left.

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Really? I only got to 10/10 Dolce, 2/15 Luna with 6 energy left. Can you just keep doing Dolce through the tutorial? That doesn't take energy, I'm pretty sure, and it counts toward your 10. Gotta wait on that midnight reset now.

From the first two, though, it seems like all the monsters that can appear will definitely appear. Grosso Polpo first shows up in Rosa trades, and then after 20 or 25 of those, you can start trading with ports in Maple World, which have both Grosso Polpo and Livyatan, seems like getting 160 stuff will be a breeze if they always show up.

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Originally Posted by ResistGreen

Didn't know where else to post this, so....
http://i.imgur.com/2V1OI5y.jpg

Note how you can sell them to the shop for more than you can buy them.
Gollux shop btw.

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So, how much longer are they going to let us play the game before they decide to rollback?.

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Originally Posted by Grey

Really? I only got to 10/10 Dolce, 2/15 Luna with 6 energy left. Can you just keep doing Dolce through the tutorial? That doesn't take energy, I'm pretty sure, and it counts toward your 10. Gotta wait on that midnight reset now.

From the first two, though, it seems like all the monsters that can appear will definitely appear. Grosso Polpo first shows up in Rosa trades, and then after 20 or 25 of those, you can start trading with ports in Maple World, which have both Grosso Polpo and Livyatan, seems like getting 160 stuff will be a breeze if they always show up.

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I don't really know what I did, I wasn't really paying attention :X I only got 1 extra run out of it though, so nothing big:

http://new.tinygrab.com/a395c0272e61...b58c16dbeb.png

I guess I have to go through all these quests before I can start trading items? The trader NPC doesn't have any text if I try clicking on him yet.

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Originally Posted by Mazz

I guess I have to go through all these quests before I can start trading items? The trader NPC doesn't have any text if I try clicking on him yet.

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Beats me, I can't talk to him either. If anything, I'd just assume he's glitched or something.

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Originally Posted by Grey

Beats me, I can't talk to him either. If anything, I'd just assume he's glitched or something.

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That'd suck :/ he had text before I finished the quest chain, but wouldn't let me trade anything because I had none of the Commerci currency.. guess I'll find out whenever the quests all get finished. Think I'm done for today anyway, I have assignments due Friday and at this rate I'll never finish them :f4:

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Originally Posted by HellenzSin

So, how much longer are they going to let us play the game before they decide to rollback?.

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It needs to be fixed, but it is not the most pressing issue. Just going by the flame stars, you have a net gain of 1,800 mesos. To make 1m doing this, you would have to buy and sell the throwing star 556 times. Even if you made a bot to buy/sell it most efficiently, you would probably only make like 10m every 8 hours or so.

Oh god the Zero storyline is so good. SO GOOD.

Beta absolutely cracks me up, she is totally hilarious. And Alpha's complete overreaction to her antics is just amazing. the writing is so well done, and i've only just finished chapter 1!

I reset the potential on my weapons a couple of times and got 15% Defense Ignore, so i'm gonna stick with that for now, since it gives 30% total.

Once the weapons get to level 170 and have innate boss damage, it's a free 60% boss damage. so cool.

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Originally Posted by Razmos

Oh god the Zero storyline is so good. SO GOOD.

Beta absolutely cracks me up, she is totally hilarious. And Alpha's complete overreaction to her antics is just amazing. the writing is so well done, and i've only just finished chapter 1!

I reset the potential on my weapons a couple of times and got 15% Defense Ignore, so i'm gonna stick with that for now, since it gives 30% total.

Once the weapons get to level 170 and have innate boss damage, it's a free 60% boss damage. so cool.

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I'm also enjoying the storyline. They should really do this for more classes.

Not sure if they improved the "Night" look during their delay, but it looks pretty good now. A moon and stars is much more convincing then sun/moonlight beams.

Kind of strange. As of v144 I apparently have 55784/46890 HP on my Kanna. It extends past the end of my HP bar and the upper limit goes up even when I use HB (64818/54804 HP then). Also my max clean range has gone up by 63k and total Matk has gone up by 21 for no immediately apparent reason compared to when I logged off yesterday. This doesn't go away when relogging.

Were there any changes to the way things worked this patch?

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Originally Posted by HellenzSin

So, how much longer are they going to let us play the game before they decide to rollback?.

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lol I seriously doubt they'll rollback for that.. Consider the profit margin sucks ass, and they don't stack on top of each other (even if you emptied your maxed out USE tab you'd only get like 80? stars at once, which is a grand total of less than 200k in profit) it would take forever to make any decent amount of profit on the item. Most likely they'll just up the price of the stars and leave it at that in an emergency maint if any other issues come up.

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Originally Posted by emailbox

lol I seriously doubt they'll rollback for that.. Consider the profit margin sucks ass, and they don't stack on top of each other (even if you emptied your maxed out USE tab you'd only get like 80? stars at once, which is a grand total of less than 200k in profit) it would take forever to make any decent amount of profit on the item. Most likely they'll just up the price of the stars and leave it at that in an emergency maint if any other issues come up.

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I bet hackers can easily speed up the process tho.
But you're probably right.
The profit is probably too low so no1 will bother.

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Originally Posted by emailbox

lol I seriously doubt they'll rollback for that.. Consider the profit margin sucks ass, and they don't stack on top of each other (even if you emptied your maxed out USE tab you'd only get like 80? stars at once, which is a grand total of less than 200k in profit) it would take forever to make any decent amount of profit on the item. Most likely they'll just up the price of the stars and leave it at that in an emergency maint if any other issues come up.

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You'd be surprised at just how fast people can make bots go for these types of things.
The OLD meso exploit that was very similar to this, botters were able to achieve billions off of that.

I got a master craftsman cube from one of the bosses in Zero's mirror dungeons.

You can fight them an unlimited amount of times a day.. so, yeah.

Nexon's left the game up way too long, I'm completely expecting some kind of hellban (doubt they'd RB again so soon) and then letting exploiters walk free and give them compensation to top it off.

1.6k gain per trade means some sort of buy/resell bot can easily make 1b+/hr prob more like 50m an hour but that's still a lot

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Originally Posted by Marksman Bryan

Nexon's left the game up way too long, I'm completely expecting some kind of hellban (doubt they'd RB again so soon) and then letting exploiters walk free and give them compensation to top it off.

1.6k gain per trade means some sort of buy/resell bot can easily make 1b+/hr

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the magic of packets.


I think the reason maple is so vulnerable to this kind of attack is because packet editing is illegal in Korea.

leave a hole open for the idiots to get caught in, arrest the hackers before they move on to something bigger.

I would enjoy this if my main wasn't unaccessible due to that stupid error code 38 when I try to access it. And oh boy, since NOBODY seems to suffer from it, I'm quite sure it'll take like... years? to fix. Fantastic. Just when the game starts to get good.

In the weird case that someone knows about this, does anyone have any information about it? To help whoever reads my ticket.

So, are there any viable level 160+ leveling spots in Commerci like Nexon promised?

Zero's going well so far, I'm actually reading the dialogue which makes things a bit slower, but all the Leafre dungeons can be cleared in under 3 minutes and the quests give good amounts of EXP. Even the non-story quests in Leafre that pop up after you finish the story quests give around 10% for 1 run each.

Arghhh. Shegerazade's first riddle was annoying the hell out of me. "What is the most precious thing in the desert" "life in the desert would be impossible without this"

I tried like every possible option, with my first one obviously being "water". turns out I was right, but it took me like 10 minutes to find out you need to capitalize it. Sigh.

I'll post this here as well, because I cannot figure it out and maybe more people will see it here:

So I went to the real Leafre cuz I wanted to change my hair.

Anyone know how to get back to mirror Leafre (or whatever it's called lol).

Edit: also, incoming USM