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Shadower/CB - upgraded skills - Dusk - 2009-01-24
Skylit Wrote:what about horntail? lol pp might be worth it if you are correct.
Oh, I was just making up numbers, that's not the real formula o_o
HT would drop 160~1600 mesos plus 1/10 of how much damage you do.
Shadower/CB - upgraded skills - iFrancisco - 2009-01-25
Dusk Wrote:That brings up an issue I've been wondering about. What would be a good PP formula? Should it be high enough so that ME can still be used in training in 4th job? It can't be high enough so that spamming SB at HHG1 would actually be a good way to farm mesos, though, so no thousands, or at least not on low monster levels.
I think something like
max: (10*monster level + 0.1*damage) * (20 + 4 *Pickpocket)/100
min: (monster level + 0.1*damage) * (20 + 4*Pickpocket)/100
would work nicely. Looks like a typical MS formula
*Pickpocket is the number of points in the skill
This would drop 410~1400 mesos per hit on a 3k SB on a Skelegon, and 2110~3100 per hit on a 20k Boomerang Step on a Skelegon.
It would drop 315~450 mesos per 3k SB on Green Mushrooms and 2015~2150 with a 20k Boomerang Step. Hm, may need to nerf the damage section a little more.
Yea, the damage section would have to be less than 10%. Otherwise, you could just farm mesos by using it: 35k x 2 BS on 1 snail = 7k+ mesos, lol. Or even on bosses such as manon, where they have 3.7mil HP, which equates to 370k mesos alone
Then again, I wouldn't truly mind that hehe.
Shadower/CB - upgraded skills - DrRusty - 2009-02-03
I'm not sure if this has been posted but here's another video with the updated shadower skills.
http://channel.pandora.tv/channel/video.ptv?ch_userid=cige16&prgid=34256873&categid=2955770&page=10
Offtopic- why does KMS's shadower control suck so badly?
Shadower/CB - upgraded skills - Cactuar - 2009-02-03
DrRusty Wrote:I'm not sure if this has been posted but here's another video with the updated shadower skills.
http://channel.pandora.tv/channel/video.ptv?ch_userid=cige16&prgid=34256873&categid=2955770&page=10
Offtopic- why does KMS's shadower control suck so badly?
No idea. I don't think he's 139 like he said in the video, because he doesn't seem to have any fake or any Assassinate or anything else aside from Boomerang Step and BoT.
Edit: As an after thought, looks like PP still sucks pretty badly. That's really a shame.
Shadower/CB - upgraded skills - Devil - 2009-02-03
DrRusty Wrote:I'm not sure if this has been posted but here's another video with the updated shadower skills.Hmmm, yeah his control is not that good, but maybe he wanted to show the increased BoT range?
http://channel.pandora.tv/channel/video.ptv?ch_userid=cige16&prgid=34256873&categid=2955770&page=10
Offtopic- why does KMS's shadower control suck so badly?
Also why is he using a hog to "speed up training" when you have an increased assaulter range plus normal haste? Hmmm... weird...
Anyway, it's only waiting for Nexon America to implement this in gMS... I hope this comes to gMS really soon... Playing without those skill upgrades makes you feel a bit slowish...
Cactuar Wrote:No idea. I don't think he's 139 like he said in the video, because he doesn't seem to have any fake or any Assassinate or anything else aside from Boomerang Step and BoT.Pickpocket will always suck in damage, unless it's gonna drop 1k bags all the time, the only plus pickpocket (meso explosion) has that it ignores wdef and avoid... So unless we're getting mobs with 20.000 HP, 9999wdef, 500 avoid and 5000 exp, PP will not but that usefull...
Edit: As an after thought, looks like PP still sucks pretty badly. That's really a shame.
Shadower/CB - upgraded skills - StackMoney - 2009-02-03
This will help in huge ammounts, that is if gms do this in GMS. Hopefully, we get it soon, although im not so worried about the range of assualter, because i knew that most shadowers were weak, so i bought top of the line gear, to make up for the slow attks, so the slowness doesnt really affect me, because i hit so hard while training. But hopefully, this will changes peoples outlook on shadowers.
Edit: For the first time, other verisons of maple dont out dmg us, the shadowers in the viedo are hella weak.
Shadower/CB - upgraded skills - Deviant - 2009-02-03
StackMoney Wrote:This will help in huge ammounts, that is if gms do this in GMS. Hopefully, we get it soon, although im not so worried about the range of assualter, because i knew that most shadowers were weak, so i bought top of the line gear, to make up for the slow attks, so the slowness doesnt really affect me, because i hit so hard while training. But hopefully, this will changes peoples outlook on shadowers.
Edit: For the first time, other verisons of maple dont out dmg us, the shadowers in the viedo are hella weak.
It seems that damage really wont matter as much when we get reduced Bstep delay, someone who does half your damage normally will be able to SB->Bstep->SB and kill nearly as fast as a very well equipped Shadower.
Honestly Shadowers are looking to be one of the more unfunded-friendly classes. If you have the persistence to train a CB (without leeching
)Look how fast that shadower in the 1st video was killing skelegons, at that level, with crappy control. Thats on par killing speed with well equipped shadowers nowadays.
Shadower/CB - upgraded skills - StackMoney - 2009-02-03
Deviant Wrote:It seems that damage really wont matter as much when we get reduced Bstep delay, someone who does half your damage normally will be able to SB->Bstep->SB and kill nearly as fast as a very well equipped Shadower.
Honestly Shadowers are looking to be one of the more unfunded-friendly classes. If you have the persistence to train a CB (without leeching
Look how fast that shadower in the 1st video was killing skelegons, at that level, with crappy control. Thats on par killing speed with well equipped shadowers nowadays.
It will help but being fund still going to give you the edge, and regardless of the cooldown on bs, that shadower is killing pretty slow.
Shadower/CB - upgraded skills - VladTheLvr - 2009-02-03
You know, pick pocket should be changed so if used and you pick up meso, it will be NEGATIVE MESO. That way you cant spam it to farm, and it can still have the ability to drop the equivalent amount of damage.
Either that or....
Make monsters etc have a certain damage value, higher level monsters drop etc's that do more damage. Also make these monster etc stackable to 1K. So that way pick pocket drops etc, which can be resold for regular value (100 meso for lvl 60 monster) and pick pocket explodes etc!
Shadower/CB - upgraded skills - doryue - 2009-02-03
So... When is the...
New assaulter range
New BoT range
New BStep Delay
New PP formula
...Gonna be updated for GMS?
Remember last time when they got the skill changes in kms? How long did it take for GMS to get it? o.o
Shadower/CB - upgraded skills - DrRusty - 2009-02-03
doryue Wrote:So... When is the...
New assaulter range
New BoT range
New BStep Delay
New PP formula
...Gonna be updated for GMS?
Remember last time when they got the skill changes in kms? How long did it take for GMS to get it? o.o
It was actually surprisingly fast. We got the updates like a month before MSea If i remember correctly.
I'm seriously gonna have a joygasm when we get the updates. My shadower and my buc are getting some SERIOUS upgrades. I won't be able to pick one to play
. I'll just have to play both XD
Shadower/CB - upgraded skills - doryue - 2009-02-03
DrRusty Wrote:It was actually surprisingly fast. We got the updates like a month before MSea If i remember correctly.
I'm seriously gonna have a joygasm when we get the updates. My shadower and my buc are getting some SERIOUS upgrades. I won't be able to pick one to play
Lol
Shadower/CB - upgraded skills - DrRusty - 2009-02-04
FINALLY!! someone with some goddamn control over their character. It's the same guy as the first video but he's much much better in this one.
http://channel.pandora.tv/channel/video.ptv?ch_userid=cige16&prgid=34284326&categid=2955770&page=7
BoT's range is pretty humongous :f6:, and he uses taunt XD
Shadower/CB - upgraded skills - Devil - 2009-02-05
DrRusty Wrote:FINALLY!! someone with some goddamn control over their character. It's the same guy as the first video but he's much much better in this one.Hmz, control is better ok, but he's still way too static to call it good Shadower control. It looked more like meso-saving training. No Bstepjump Assaulter/Sblow combo's, reversed sblows/bots, but it did give you a good indication how fast bstep has become!
http://channel.pandora.tv/channel/video.ptv?ch_userid=cige16&prgid=34284326&categid=2955770&page=7
BoT's range is pretty humongous :f6:, and he uses taunt XD
Can't wait for these upgrades!
Btw, old BoT range was 2x 170% right? The new must must be like 2x 250% range, that means in BoT terms 200% in front, 300% behind you. Nice!
Shadower/CB - upgraded skills - Skylit - 2009-02-08
http://www.pandora.tv/my.cige16/34323720
Apparently, this shadower don't know how to use top platforms. Tho regardless it shows how bs is while just holding down the button.
Shadower/CB - upgraded skills - Greg22 - 2009-02-08
Skylit Wrote:http://www.pandora.tv/my.cige16/34323720
Apparently, this shadower don't know how to use top platforms. Tho regardless it shows how bs is while just holding down the button.
God damn. It's practically spammable.
Perhaps this will separate the people who don't know how to play their characters from the people who do.
Shadower/CB - upgraded skills - Skylit - 2009-02-08
Greg Wrote:God damn. It's practically spammable.
Perhaps this will separate the people who don't know how to play their characters from the people who do.
yea lol@ venom now... its even more useless ._.
http://www.pandora.tv/my.dragonbaik/34316275
this shadower has control but its in edited small windows.
Shadower/CB - upgraded skills - SuperMario64 - 2009-02-08
O_O!?
I swear I just saw him use Boomerang Step in midair! <3
...more than once...could be wrong though. lol
Shadower/CB - upgraded skills - Skylit - 2009-02-08
SuperMario64 Wrote:O_O!?
I swear I just saw him use Boomerang Step in midair! <3
...more than once...could be wrong though. lol
that's possible now, just jump shot it. its hard if you have your keys set up weird.
Shadower/CB - upgraded skills - SuperMario64 - 2009-02-08
I jump shot with it all the time! <3
...it just seemed like at some points he jump shot some other skill then used Boomerang Step in midair. o.o