Dystopiq Wrote:Holy fucking pomegranate! I remember that one. I got so many boots for killing the slimes. Ironically we got bad rewards! Bwahahaha!

Unleashing Wrote:DON'T KILL THE SLIMES AT KPQ, WE GET BAD REWARDS.

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Pink Bean Wrote:GMs are myths

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in all seriousness I've heard Bob the Snail increasing scroll success rates if you kill him and immediately scroll afterward. welp

kind of irrelevant considering the big bang erased him.

Unleashing Wrote:DON'T KILL THE SLIMES AT KPQ, WE GET BAD REWARDS.

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icephoenix21 Wrote:

I think this was at least...3 years ago now D:

CarrionCrow Wrote:This started long, long before the shoes came into being. I had no idea it went on into recent years.

Fiel Wrote:snip

bast963 Wrote:Here's a myth for you folks: Does Maplestory run on a PRNG (like Runescape) or on a real RNG (like FE7)?

Unleashing Wrote:DON'T KILL THE SLIMES AT KPQ, WE GET BAD REWARDS.

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Pink Bean Wrote:GMs are myths

bast963 Wrote:I remember an argument about 100%s having a 1/255 or 1/256 chance of fail, and looking at the source code, I think that may be true. I don't know.

Here's a myth for you folks: Does Maplestory run on a PRNG (like Runescape) or on a real RNG (like FE7)?

Fiel Wrote:I am shootfromthehip on Basilmarket

I call bull on the scrolls failing to pass.

The problem with the 1 = .9999... argument is that it works in algebra and geometry but does NOT make sense in the realm of computers. 1 and 0.9999... are fundamentally different data types (int and float). Also, any programmer that's worth his salt will NEVER EVER EVER use a float in a comparison operation. It's stupid to do it, and will cause weird runtime anomalies. (For an example of runtime anomalies look here. If you want to compare a float, use Epsilon Tolerance comparison)

If Nexon Korea's programming is any good, they will generate an INT from 0 to 100 (which runs hundreds of times faster than generating a float between 0 and 1) and check to see if that number is less than or equal to the success rate. If so, then the scroll passes. Because the success rate on the 100% scroll is 100 (it's a packed integer in the WZ files), the rolled number will always be less than or equal to the success rate. Notice that there is no float comparisons here. A 100% scroll cannot fail.

I actually have the BMS source code. I could check this.

EDIT: Also that idiot never actually proved in any way, shape, or form that he was right. He never showed any code that would prove that a 100% scroll could fail. He just got all high and mighty that he knows what it means to program then declared himself right because he knows more than everyone else. What a loser.

Here's the source code.

Durex Wrote:I can think up a few.

1. The old free haircut quest. supposedly if you stood on certain parts of the map it would give the "premium" hair (i.e antagonist for males and the black and blonde one for girls)

2. Wearing red skullcap increases scroll success rates.

3?. This is my own myth (ik it's bs) but I have a certain area in the FM entrance that I have always had greater luck whilst using scrolls.

In fact i know all of them are BS, and can prolly be proven wrong very easily.

Unleashing Wrote:DON'T KILL THE SLIMES AT KPQ, WE GET BAD REWARDS.

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Satellite Wrote:Well I've heard so many claims that 70% potential scroll has a better success rate than 90%. People can be really stupid sometimes. If 10% would be that unlikely to happen, then 10% scrolls would be sold at NPC.

Personally I've used around 20-25 90% scrolls and they have all succeed.

Fiel Wrote:I don't think there is any such thing as a true RNG. Almost all "RNGs" that people refer to are actually PRNGs.

bast963 Wrote:What I meant was that if the RNG is really random, and has an equal chance to roll between 0 to 100 on every roll, or if it's pseudo and it ends up picking a favored side and an unfavored side and switching them every X amount of rerolls like in tetris. Like the PRNG would pick (between A, B, C, and D) the C as the favored side, the B as the "slightly higher than usual" side, the A as ignored, and the D as the normal 25% chance of appearance, and keep this for like 10 rolls and then switch the sides for the next 10 rolls etc. Whereas a regular RNG would just have 25% chance to all four letters every roll.

There's probably a bigger argument to this that I'm not seeing here, isn't there?

Schmiddei Wrote:Something like the Monty Hall problem where probabilities change for the better (must agree that I'd never got that one either).
So I've just drawn a probability-diagram and the chances for failing a 10% Scroll are obviously 90% whereas the chance of failing two scrolls in a row is 81%. (Yeah and I know that one could see these as two different events with 90% failure rate... just check this Monty Hall Thing, since I can't explain it)
However I want to remark that I still don't think that "dump-scrolling" increases your chances (be it because of weird game mechanisms killing math, or just because it's illogical in general)

byakugan Wrote:6 years or more playing mMaple and just now I hear about the White lady... lol

I wonder if I ever passed by her and didn't notice