Imitazion Wrote:1: my timezone eliminates PvP.
2: the profit is too low, thinking about the items needed. you're only making ~20mil each weapon, and the recipes aren't free either.
3: the item disassemblers were only used to start off with, due to the popular demand. now I barely see any fishtanks anywhere.
4: that's what I do.
5: the rate of profit is too low too; I've tried this. ended up spending more than I made.

Takebacker Wrote:It does. For several reasons.

1) We won't get this until November at the earliest.

Takebacker Wrote:2) It's still being tested.

Takebacker Wrote:3) Profession system allows specific equipment to be forged. Hunting has been long since unnecessary in KMS. Maker will currently forge any equipment you could possibly want right now with higher stats at a cheap price.

Takebacker Wrote:4) It isn't "guarunteed". There are systems KMS has that weren't implemented here. Unless you have proof of this. Otherwise you're just speculating...isn't that what you argued against doing in the warrior changes thread?

byakugan Wrote:Why not just bringing back that old "question" system? You know, a window would pop up on your screen with a random question, and if you didn't answer it in time you would get disconnected. I know many people would complain that it gets in their way when training, but maybe adding a 5 seconds alarm telling you it is coming would help. Just a thought.

On topic: I'm pretty sure there are better ways to fight against botting than preventing people from hunting monsters lower than their lvl. Maple isn't just about grinding, sometimes you wanna hunt stuff, sometimes you wanna explore, sometimes you just wanna be alone when traning. This just in a way limits what you can do.

byakugan Wrote:Why not just bringing back that old "question" system? You know, a window would pop up on your screen with a random question, and if you didn't answer it in time you would get disconnected. I know many people would complain that it gets in their way when training, but maybe adding a 5 seconds alarm telling you it is coming would help. Just a thought.

On topic: I'm pretty sure there are better ways to fight against botting than preventing people from hunting monsters lower than their lvl. Maple isn't just about grinding, sometimes you wanna hunt stuff, sometimes you wanna explore, sometimes you just wanna be alone when traning. This just in a way limits what you can do.

Takebacker Wrote:1) Has it occurred to you that Nexon doesn't cater to foreigners? It's still a way to make money. I don't know what time you are allowed to PvP in your timezone, but it's still a way to make money and i don't believe you have the right to complain about it when you (apparently) aren't in their service area. :/
2) I was implying you find the recipes, which is in fact free as long as you don't consider time to be some kind of currency. 20m profit is still profit, but are you talking about clean or 3 lined? Because that certainly improves profit margin.
3) Wasn't expecting it to be great money but it does confirm that monster crystals won't be such a big deal as the profession system grows older in GMS. People would put up disassemblers if monster crystals were rare/not cheap. Thanks for that!
4) As if hunting manually had higher profit margin. >_>

Takebacker Wrote:blah blah blah

octopusprime Wrote:did i not say eventually?

octopusprime Wrote:I plan to go alch and hunt then disassemble for profit (among other things). I'm pretty convinced it's going to have better profit margins then making things due both the low capital requirement and fatigue efficiency. I'm not exactly some uninformed lolbasiler who doesn't understand the simple workings of this simple game without spending hours on it firsthand. It's my understanding you haven't done much yourself with the profession system. Is that a misconception on my part? After all you seem suprised in a different post about a pretty predictable market shift that i was already aware of. The "playng kms makes you informed" mentality is a rather poor one. Especially on an site built around extraction.

octopusprime Wrote:This difference is this is official and already released content, not spadow's speculation. It's virtually guaranteed that what kms gets gms will get eventually. You even show the same mindset in the very same post i am quoting. (see your point 1)

Imitazion Wrote:1: I am aware of that, but work interferes with PvP hours, sir.
2: time equals money. the time used, to find recipes worth anything is too long, opposed to the profit. but I'm sure you would tell me wrong, 'cause you've totally tried it.
3: why would I put up a fishtank for 100k/day?
4: I used blacksmithing and jeweling. the amount of money I spent on materials versus profit is overwhelmingly huge.

Alloy Wrote:You know what means that monsters will only drop etcs? That they want high levels to stick to the map they have to be.

Seanny Wrote:-make game easier to play-

-add new headaches later-

sooo, basically, all botters have to do is kill their chars regularly if they want to drop farm a certain area.

Thats nice.

Jellyflower Wrote:In other games, there are cumbersome levels where the more weight you put on, the slower you attack and move. If botters pick up everything in sight, they should exceed that threshold really easily which would make them attack at 0x.

kremechoko Wrote:You mean the lie detector?
Either way, KMS hacks have gotten so advanced that if you get DC'd or sent back to town via lie detector, the hack will find out you're in the wrong map and move you back to the map where you were botting.

Hanabira.Kage Wrote:

Configure it to lock the account for 24hours if the (very simple) question is answered wrongly 3 times or not answered?

A question like, "1 + 1 = ?". In a picture, so the hacking program can't just read it and solve it.