GMS v131 - Hayato

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Originally Posted by Razmos

Normal Ranmaru seems really easy. One of his attacks disconnected me though. I wasn't even attacking, I simply jumped when he used one of his attacks, my game froze and then shut down.

EDIT: Logged back in and tried to enter a new expedition, I got in but Ranmaru's NPC didn't show up, meaning I can't start the fight.

Well, that's an effective waste of my 2 tries for the day.

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Ranmaru is only annoying with his stupid Damage Reflect that, at least when I did it last, shares a starting animation with several other abilities so it's hard to detect when it's being used.

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Originally Posted by Polantaris

Ranmaru is only annoying with his stupid Damage Reflect that, at least when I did it last, shares a starting animation with several other abilities so it's hard to detect when it's being used.

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Yeah, I failed to notice it quite a few times. But it does so low damage it's not really a big deal. I lost like.. 500 hp per attack which made my HP flash so I knew it was on :P

Oh great, I was almost worried because lately the gap in power between nxhoes and regular players has been too small.

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Originally Posted by Demalkren

Also That ring :glitter: My next paycheck might as well be deposited into Nexon NA's bank accounts.

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Don't take this too personally, I don't want to be rude, but you seem to fall into the part of the group that KhainiWest talked about in another thread:

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Originally Posted by KhainiWest

Here's the underlining truth. Nexon does it because you people let them get away with it. Here's a huge issue I find, plenty of southperricans play maplestory. Hey, it's a maplestory forum, no surprise there, but we also know majority of the website as matured enough and read enough intellectual arguments to come to the conclusion concerning the OP's post. It's summarized as, Nexon doesn't care, they are incredibly money focused(Sorry but being a business does not justify the extreme measure they take to make profit), and they aren't reasonable.

Yet we, the players, who have this general opinion about them continue to use nx. Let me repeat that,use. See the thing is, a lot of players justify themselves by saying "oh I bought the nx with mesos, lol i don't spend money!", and still accomplish the "godly" status. Whether this is from exploiting or lucking out (IE the pet exploit where worthless pet scrolls came with a big profit) it doesn't matter. The point is you don't buy nx, you just buy it from other people who throw money at them. But the fact that you are using it, purchasing cubes, hundreds of dollars worth, is just telling nexon flat out "Everything is fine". They don't care how the money gets in their hands, I doubt it's even a variable in their equation. What they look at is how well something is selling, how well the new broken class is doing, based on NX/cube sales. I can almost guarantee their entire focus is specifically on miracle cubes.

What nexon does can't really be justified. The employees aren't the problem, Girasol does a fantastic job as a representative for us even with his/her ridiculous limitations. But when you go on other forums, as common as basilmarket, it's just all of these mashed opinions based on rumors and limited understanding. "ITS THE GM'S FAULT, LOLTOS MAKES THEM INVINCIBLE". There aren't a lot of people who play maplestory competitively in the grand scheme of things. I would say less than 10% of the total population, but within that 10% 1 of those players probably spends more than half the fanbase. If you really want to show nexon you're tired of them not only treating you like children who should just shut up and obey their abusive nature towards dedicated players, then stop even using NX.

But no one has the discipline to do that. A significant amount of people tolerate it because it hasn't directly destroyed them in some fashion yet. They'll continue as they have been functioning for the last 6 years, people like maplestory for what it is, and tolerate the ridiculousness that comes with it. Adults have grown up and moved on from it, as will the later generations. Eventually they'll lose this generation, and realize how much thinner its becoming. People who have been with MS since the beginning have left it, people they introduced it too and kept them going to try to surpass them, are goign to leave even quicker. The power creep changes the entire game every 6 months, and they make it more Bot like eveyr passing "generation". People estimated maplestory is going to be here a long time, but I give it 5 years at best. New players are completely overwhelmed by the mountain of equipment they have to keep repeatingly shining up, assuming they can get a base set to begin with. Eventually there won't be many players who heavily invest in maplestory, the new players will never have that "ambition" to get to the top, because you can easily do it spending a large bill, the older players begin to realize how worthless it is. You get strong enough to fight a boss, hackers not only kill it first, but nerf the prices of everything down to scrap. No player is going to see the fun into investing at one point. Most of the less experienced players are finally enjoying the other half of maplestory, and that's a problem. Not because they don't deserve it, but they are speeding through everything, hitting the head and quitting.

For the last 5 years, generations have carried other generations, making them ambitious to have them be the first do something, the work being part of your character. Soon there won't be a generation to pass that ambition, in fact the only answer we're going to hear is "Just buy nx you'll be godly easily". And it all goes back to the players giving nexon the wrong message; "We love what you're doing with the game, check out the sales to make our characters stronger in anticipation for the new godly content that requires an auto hp healing pet to go through instant ko's!"

If you want to change their methods, change your hobby.

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With so many maplers being like you, NOTHING will ever get better and they will just start selling more 10000 att items for NX.

I'll be impressed if that post starts floating around basilmarket :f3:

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Originally Posted by Satellite

Oh great, I was almost worried because lately the gap in power between nxhoes and regular players has been too small.



Don't take this too personally, I don't want to be rude, but you seem to fall into the part of the group that KhainiWest talked about in another thread:



With so many maplers being like you, NOTHING will ever get better and they will just start selling more 10000 att items for NX.

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Although my post was rather exaggerated I can see where you're coming from with this as I've already read that thread. However you really don't know anything about how I've been playing this game or to what extent my post are serious... So I'd keep pointless comments like that to yourself.

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Originally Posted by Demalkren

Although that post was rather exaggerated

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Oh YOUR post, nevermind.

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Originally Posted by Razmos

Yeah, I failed to notice it quite a few times. But it does so low damage it's not really a big deal. I lost like.. 500 hp per attack which made my HP flash so I knew it was on :P

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It was definitely nerfed then. Back when Link and I tried it when it was originally released in JMS, it would 1-hit me and I had over 10k HP at that point.

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Originally Posted by KhainiWest

I'll be impressed if that post starts floating around basilmarket :f3:

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That post is way too long for basil. :f3:

"Hayato is a warrior with low HP but fast attacks"
7000 HP at level 45. Ok.

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Originally Posted by Polantaris

It was definitely nerfed then. Back when Link and I tried it when it was originally released in JMS, it would 1-hit me and I had over 10k HP at that point.

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Wow, I see. How much damage did he do with his attacks in JMS? he hits me for about 1500 damage :/

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Originally Posted by Razmos

"Hayato is a warrior with low HP but fast attacks"
7000 HP at level 45. Ok.


Wow, I see. How much damage did he do with his attacks in JMS? he hits me for about 1500 damage :/

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I want to say 5k or so, but I could be wrong.

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So I looked at his stats on his original extraction compared to the one you guys got.

His Physical and Magical attack are the same (5000/2500), but his DR is not the same at all:

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Originally Posted by JMS's Ranmaru

Immune to Weapon and Magic Counter Attack
Physical and Magical damage reflection for 15 seconds with 500 ~ 50000 damage.

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Originally Posted by GMS's Ranmaru

Immune to Weapon and Magic Counter Attack
Physical and Magical damage reflection for 12 seconds with 500 ~ 1000 damage.

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I think it has been changed to the GMS one since then, though.

Crazy Ranmaru has like 70k Attack though, so I dunno.

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Originally Posted by Polantaris

I want to say 5k or so, but I could be wrong.

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Wow, he's definitely nerfed here then.

Also, I'm sure Link said that the crazy version doesn't have a respawn room, but judging from the Boss Battles thread, we do. also crazy version is basically soloable. Looks like the equips aren't going to be nearly as rare as in JMS.

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Originally Posted by Satellite

Oh great, I was almost worried because lately the gap in power between nxhoes and regular players has been too small.



Don't take this too personally, I don't want to be rude, but you seem to fall into the part of the group that KhainiWest talked about in another thread:



With so many maplers being like you, NOTHING will ever get better and they will just start selling more 10000 att items for NX.

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I started GMS in 2006. After Big Bang, I had enough. I jumped ship.

That expedition in Dead Mine looks interesting.

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Originally Posted by Razmos

"Hayato is a warrior with low HP but fast attacks"
7000 HP at level 45. Ok.

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Do you have :

1. Card Deck Effects
2. HP-granting link skills
3. HP-granting equipment

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All of those attribute, obviously, to higher HP. The card deck effects are probably the biggest bonus, considering they can EASILY give you more than 3,000 HP. 7,000 HP at level 45 is abnormally high.

Yo dawg, we heard you like gamble boxes, so we put gamble boxes in your gamble boxes so you can gamble on what you get to gamble on.

^{Sorry. >_>}

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Originally Posted by Fiel

Description: The #cLightning God# will be summoned when this ring is equipped.

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I cannot find this effect, is it not added yet?

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Originally Posted by Zelkova

I cannot find this effect, is it not added yet?

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It's under Use, it's basically a better WABR.

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Originally Posted by Zelkova

I cannot find this effect, is it not added yet?

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First entry in Item->Consume spoiler.

@koplje; @SaptaZapta; Oh, I was looking in the .wz but alright.

Edit: I meant the effect on the character, not the buff it gives you.

Nexon even screwed up the voice overs for male Hayato... In 2nd job, he has the JMS' 1st job Sanrenzan voice over for the 2nd job Sanrenzan attack. >_> "Shi" instead of "Puu" or even "Jin."

I swear, they were not ready to release Hayato at all. Did they not test him, or even compare him to the JMS version?

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Originally Posted by Link

Nexon even screwed up the voice overs for male Hayato... In 2nd job, he has the JMS' 1st job Sanrenzan voice over for the 2nd job Sanrenzan attack. >_> "Shi" instead of "Puu" or even "Jin."

I swear, they were not ready to release Hayato at all. Did they not test him, or even compare him to the JMS version?

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Quotes aside, Hayato has had no real release problems. Why do they need to test his voice acting? o.o
It's a pretty small problem really, and probably a localisation problem. Or they knew that their immature target audience would giggle like babies every time Hayato said "Puu" and decided to omit it >_>