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2011-08-16, 06:54 PM
Locked

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Originally Posted by Fiel

Avoid and Accuracy are capped at 9999, but DEF is capped at 30k.

DEF is capped at 9999 now too.
:/

I will find SSes somewhere.
2011-08-16, 06:59 PM
PeePeeAyeDeeKay

From my Paladin:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b3...9999defcap.jpg

Only buffs on are:
Iron Body
Bless
Maple Warrior 20 or 30 (I forget which)

Did not have CO on so that's level 18 Shield Mastery (+180% defenses)
2011-08-16, 07:04 PM
ShinkuDragon

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fiel

Avoid and Accuracy are capped at 9999, but DEF is capped at 30k.

further saying that it caps at 9999 now, a pally friend of mine now receives more damage, and it's capped at tespia too, since the first part of chaos
2011-08-16, 07:08 PM
Fiel

Well, I eat my own words then. Thanks for showing me that!
2011-08-16, 07:19 PM
Devil

Quote:

Originally Posted by yo72

Certain classes are meant to do certain things, just like GB was meant for ranged classes because the high avoid. And I highly doubt you factored in czhelm/chtp into your hp, because killing those impossible without nx bosses don't matter to you. Stop getting on your soap box and preaching how this game is driven by nx. EVERYONE knows this, just because it is doesn't mean you have to spend your life savings on a game, learn to merch, or work hard for money.

*sigh*
1. This has nothing to do with my NX only rants, just poor boss design, plain increasing damage so most ppl die in 1 hit = nothing to do with any skill that could be left in maple.
2. Sure, some classes are better at some things then others, but a boss that is all about 1 hit killing = plain stupid.
3. I have a CZH 10% HP, Rex earring 10% HP and Maple Pendant 7% HP in that HP gear setup, and with HB, I still reach 13k HP at lvl 163... Actually that's quite high for a ranged class.

P.S. Every thought about how Nexon will deal with Black Mage's damage? 50k att range would be a bit low imo... 100k maybe? It won't be any lower since he'll most likely be lvl200 and he's supposed to be the "end boss" ~~and you need a lot of skill if you want to kill him~~.
2011-08-16, 07:35 PM
Blades4hire

Quote:

Originally Posted by Devil

Nexon: Damn we need a new boss!
--> Boss created
Nexon: Damn we need to make this boss more challenging
--> Boss damage increased so most classes die with 1 hit
Nexon: OMG We're soooo good at making challenging and entertaining bosses!!!!

Audience that was expecting a boss that needed real skills instead of HP washing: :f7:

Anyway... another future Henesys... a place where noone trains because of the high pot costs... sad....

No one trains at future henyses?
You would be insane not to.
Personally, I would much rather get double the exp of LHC by spending an extra 5m per hour on pots o.o
2011-08-17, 06:42 AM
DeanNim

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fiel

Well, I eat my own words then. Thanks for showing me that!

eat your shirt.
2011-08-17, 06:55 AM
Fiel

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeanNim

eat your shirt.

Wrong bet.
2011-08-17, 10:12 AM
Nature

Quote:

Originally Posted by Devil

*sigh*
1. This has nothing to do with my NX only rants, just poor boss design, plain increasing damage so most ppl die in 1 hit = nothing to do with any skill that could be left in maple.
2. Sure, some classes are better at some things then others, but a boss that is all about 1 hit killing = plain stupid.
3. I have a CZH 10% HP, Rex earring 10% HP and Maple Pendant 7% HP in that HP gear setup, and with HB, I still reach 13k HP at lvl 163... Actually that's quite high for a ranged class.

P.S. Every thought about how Nexon will deal with Black Mage's damage? 50k att range would be a bit low imo... 100k maybe? It won't be any lower since he'll most likely be lvl200 and he's supposed to be the "end boss" ~~and you need a lot of skill if you want to kill him~~.

Most classes should be able to survive just not long range. Even then they should be able to stay there distance. Unless you have a retarded warrior who doesn't know how to rush. He shouldn't be that hard. Dual blades would have to use final cut when he summons or when flash banging other than that phantom blow puts much distance between you and the boss monster attacking. You just have to avoid physical damage.
2011-08-17, 10:22 AM
Malthe

If you factor in stuff like the +hp potions and your defence and arans new and improved duration on combo barrier i think that surviving is possible even for not-washed ranged.

Don't evans have a skill to reduce magic damage as well?:f1:

Edit: They do and that's another 30% reduction when it's on and it lasts for 1 minute and the cooldown is 1� minute, seems that surviving him will be a question of HP washing or using the defensive party skills that we have available in the game.
2011-08-17, 12:10 PM
lukeine

Spadow's video of the boss shows that there is a respawn room and seemingly no potion cooldown, so it still shouldn't be that hard if you can do enough damage to it, unless that was changed in this patch.
2011-08-17, 03:32 PM
Ninjaman43

Lol it always the ultimate boss get buffed @_@

---------- Post added at 01:32 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:31 PM ----------

Unless If KMS raise the lvl cap >_<
2011-08-17, 03:33 PM
Devil

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nature

Most classes should be able to survive just not long range. Even then they should be able to stay there distance. Unless you have a retarded warrior who doesn't know how to rush. He shouldn't be that hard. Dual blades would have to use final cut when he summons or when flash banging other than that phantom blow puts much distance between you and the boss monster attacking. You just have to avoid physical damage.

Most classes? Don't think so! ;)

Also, rushing as a warrior doesn't work when the whole expedition is attacking.

Classes:
- Bow Master -> Instant Death
- Marksman -> Instant Death
- Arch Mage -> Survive
- Bishop -> Survive
- Night Lord -> Instant Death
- Shadower -> Survive
- Dual Blade -> Instant Death
- Buccaneer -> Instant Death
- Corsair -> Instant Death
- Hero -> Survive
- Paladin -> Survive
- Dark Knight -> Survive
- Battlemage -> Instant Death
- Wild Hunter -> Instant Death
- Mechanic -> Instant Death
- Evan -> Survive
- Aran -> Instant Death
- Cannonneer -> Instant Death
- Mercedes -> Instant Death
- Demon Slayer -> Survive

New party setup: Bishop, DK, Demon Slayer, Demon Slayer, Demon Slayer, Demon Slayer?
This reminds me of the old maple... Bishop, DK, SE-class, NL, NL, NL... I thought that was far behind us...

And I guess this boss will use the ever-boring-and-unoriginal seduce, so everyone will bump into his body some time...
2011-08-17, 03:39 PM
Ninjaman43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Devil

Most classes? Don't think so! ;)

Also, rushing as a warrior doesn't work when the whole expedition is attacking.

Classes:
- Bow Master -> Instant Death
- Marksman -> Instant Death
- Arch Mage -> Survive
- Bishop -> Survive
- Night Lord -> Instant Death
- Shadower -> Survive
- Dual Blade -> Instant Death
- Buccaneer -> Instant Death
- Corsair -> Instant Death
- Hero -> Survive
- Paladin -> Survive
- Dark Knight -> Survive
- Battlemage -> Instant Death
- Wild Hunter -> Instant Death
- Mechanic -> Instant Death
- Evan -> Survive
- Aran -> Instant Death
- Cannonneer -> Instant Death
- Mercedes -> Instant Death
- Demon Slayer -> Survive

New party setup: Bishop, DK, Demon Slayer, Demon Slayer, Demon Slayer, Demon Slayer?
This reminds me of the old maple... Bishop, DK, SE-class, NL, NL, NL... I thought that was far behind us...

And I guess this boss will use the ever-boring-and-unoriginal seduce, so everyone will bump into his body some time...

So only 7 class survive O_O?
2011-08-17, 03:48 PM
White

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninjaman43

So only 7 class survive O_O?

7 = most classes according to someone.
2011-08-17, 04:03 PM
Blades4hire

Quote:

Originally Posted by Devil

Most classes? Don't think so! ;)

Also, rushing as a warrior doesn't work when the whole expedition is attacking.

Classes:
- Bow Master -> Instant Death
- Marksman -> Instant Death
- Arch Mage -> Survive
- Bishop -> Survive
- Night Lord -> Instant Death
- Shadower -> Survive
- Dual Blade -> Instant Death
- Buccaneer -> Instant Death
- Corsair -> Instant Death
- Hero -> Survive
- Paladin -> Survive
- Dark Knight -> Survive
- Battlemage -> Instant Death
- Wild Hunter -> Instant Death
- Mechanic -> Instant Death
- Evan -> Survive
- Aran -> Instant Death
- Cannonneer -> Instant Death
- Mercedes -> Instant Death
- Demon Slayer -> Survive

New party setup: Bishop, DK, Demon Slayer, Demon Slayer, Demon Slayer, Demon Slayer?
This reminds me of the old maple... Bishop, DK, SE-class, NL, NL, NL... I thought that was far behind us...

And I guess this boss will use the ever-boring-and-unoriginal seduce, so everyone will bump into his body some time...

What on earth are you talking about?
Any Half decent party would be able to pin it so ranged classes can survive.
Arans will be a must with combo barrier.
Battle mages can survive easily, most high level ones have 20k+ hp.
Bowmasters, marksmen, WH, mechs, NLs, mercedes, and corsairs don't need to be in range of his magic attacks to hit him.
Dual blades have 25% passive dodge, and insane avoid+flashbang.
Cannoneers' main 1v1 att is ranged+they have 25% guard+decent hp.
Buccaneers have demolition iframes.
2011-08-17, 04:25 PM
Liteness

you know devil...arans got more hp and def than you know don't type stuff you have no experience on
2011-08-17, 04:31 PM
Devil

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blades4hire

What on earth are you talking about?

Any Half decent party would be able to pin it so ranged classes can survive.
-> You can't pin this boss (see below)
Arans will be a must with combo barrier.
-> CB is not enough for arans to survive themselves.
Battle mages can survive easily, most high level ones have 20k+ hp.
-> 20k is not enough for being -that- close range like battle mages are... :(
Bowmasters, marksmen, WH, mechs, NLs, mercedes, and corsairs don't need to be in range of his magic attacks to hit him.
-> He can't be knocked back unless people are professional enough to stop attacking for rushers. And how do you rush him when he has damage reflect UP and is walking towards the group?
Dual blades have 25% passive dodge, and insane avoid+flashbang.
-> Avoid =/= survive at all times
Cannoneers' main 1v1 att is ranged+they have 25% guard+decent hp.
-> Avoid =/= survive at all times
Buccaneers have demolition iframes.
-> Those don't help in getting passed him

Oh btw:
Level: 170
Physical Attack: [10,000 --> 30,000]
Knockback: 99,999,999 -> GL pinning! ;)

The only way I see it's somehow possible is using Mechanics with the portal skill. I tried it at Dojo end-boss, and it's really useful when he has damage reflect up and is walking towards you... but still... such high touch damage... comon...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liteness

you know devil...arans got more hp and def than you know don't type stuff you have no experience on

Only a tad more then Buccanneers, Mechanics and Wild Hunters... but that's not enough... Especially since they're sort of short-range and move towards the boss while attacking...
2011-08-17, 04:48 PM
Arroz

Quote:

Originally Posted by Devil

Oh btw:
Level: 170
Physical Attack: [10,000 --> 30,000]
Knockback: 99,999,999 -> GL pinning! ;)

The only way I see it's somehow possible is using Mechanics with the portal skill. I tried it at Dojo end-boss, and it's really useful when he has damage reflect up and is walking towards you... but still... such high touch damage... comon...

Only a tad more then Buccanneers, Mechanics and Wild Hunters... but that's not enough... Especially since they're sort of short-range and move towards the boss while attacking...

Not everyone sucks as much as you. Any half decent party knows when to stop attacking to pin it.
2011-08-17, 04:54 PM
Devil

Quote:

Originally Posted by Devil

And how do you rush him when he has damage reflect UP and is walking towards the group?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arroz

Not everyone sucks as much as you. Any half decent party knows when to stop attacking to pin it.

Geez... no need for insults, and read before you post...

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