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Gunslinger Build (Lv. 10-200) - Takebacker - 2008-09-25
Bribery Wrote:Oh, it's a guy? xD I assumed it was a girl because the same person has a female xbow.
Yeah, I've noticed that Battleship's icon is essentially its "hp bar". 50k damage is quite a large amount of HP in regular training, considering that Captains aren't going to be hit very often. Unless level 10 Battleship has 200k hp, it isn't worth the 4x increase in cooldown.
I guess level 1 Mind Control early on wouldn't hurt...but I'm still not convinced that the damage it does is enough to increase %/h, especially since Battleship Cannon overkills by quite a bit.
Shrapnel commented saying most/all KMS captains max it after cannon. I don't know why they would if it wasn't a significant increase honestly. xD Guess we just have to wait for a video that's just as good as this one featuring max battleship. :/
Well, the damage is dependent on the monster you're controlling. At this point, it just seems to be that skeles and CGs are the only monsters worth it. I'm interested in seeing how CGs would work...since they have more then one attack skill. It seems skeles can mob and control doesn't wear off as fast as (support) octopus does not to mention the damage is probably faster. (?)
Worthyness Wrote:Is it just me or did mind control have a puppet like effect?
It might have just been the guy standing in front of the newtie, but i can never be too sure =P
Monsters can't damage you, and you can't damage them while controlled. They don't shift aggro like puppet can though.
Gunslinger Build (Lv. 10-200) - RunnenFrom - 2008-09-25
Bribery Wrote:New video:
Level 151 Captain Soloing Pap (Notable Skills: Rapid Fire, Battleship Cannon, Advanced Homing)
Does anyone know what kind of atk pots she is using? Her Cannon hits 20k on Pap's 2nd form. o_o
This video is great at showing how durable Battleship is, and how Advanced Homing works.
Wow he got hit every time, Pirates must have very low Avoid.
Gunslinger Build (Lv. 10-200) - Takebacker - 2008-09-25
RunnenFrom Wrote:Wow he got hit every time, Pirates must have very low Avoid.
I lol'd that you actually expected them to avoid anything. They attack in a massive ship for god's sake, how hard can it be to hit a massive ship?
Gunslinger Build (Lv. 10-200) - Corn - 2008-09-25
Takebacker Wrote:I lol'd that you actually expected them to avoid anything. They attack in a massive ship for god's sake, how hard can it be to hit a massive ship?
How does warriors miss yet they close range?
How do archers and assassins hit even if they're far range?
Gunslinger Build (Lv. 10-200) - RunnenFrom - 2008-09-25
Takebacker Wrote:I lol'd that you actually expected them to avoid anything. They attack in a massive ship for god's sake, how hard can it be to hit a massive ship?
They're obviously gonna get hit, I meant how the monster didn't MISS
Gunslinger Build (Lv. 10-200) - Takebacker - 2008-09-25
ClawofBeta Wrote:How does warriors miss yet they close range?
How do archers and assassins hit even if they're far range?
Technically it depends on the warrior. DrKs get an avoid boost from beholder, but otherwise warriors can actually move compared to a giant ship who probably shouldn't be able to avoid anything...
What does hitting have to do with getting hit? O_O
RunnenFrom Wrote:They're obviously gonna get hit, I meant how the monster didn't MISS
....Something tells me you both misunderstood me. The captain is in a battleship. Battleships are generally huge and hard to miss/not hit...
Honestly, way to take a joke seriously. xD
Gunslinger Build (Lv. 10-200) - Corn - 2008-09-25
Takebacker Wrote:Technically it depends on the warrior. DrKs get an avoid boost from beholder, but otherwise warriors can actually move compared to a giant ship who probably shouldn't be able to avoid anything...Way to take a joke seriously for mine
What does hitting have to do with getting hit? O_O
....Something tells me you both misunderstood me. The captain is in a battleship. Battleships are generally huge and hard to miss/not hit...
Honestly, way to take a joke seriously. xD
.Warriors shouldn't be able to miss as they're right in front of the target.
However, as we all know, they miss.
Gunslinger Build (Lv. 10-200) - Takebacker - 2008-09-25
ClawofBeta Wrote:Way to take a joke seriously for mine
Warriors shouldn't be able to miss as they're right in front of the target.
However, as we all know, they miss.
I could say the same thing for shadowers. :3
I was mainly talking about him for the joke thing. O_o
It wasn't really obvious to me that you were taking the ship hitting seriously by what you said but i kinda figured you did. xD
Gunslinger Build (Lv. 10-200) - Holypie - 2008-10-04
or a str mage misses too =)
Gunslinger Build (Lv. 10-200) - DeeD - 2008-10-17
duh, monsters can dodge a sword. Its called ducking/weaving/etc...
Gunslinger Build (Lv. 10-200) - Acim - 2008-10-17
*still feels the need to ask*
Anyone know BaSeLy's equips in the screenshot? ("Level 92 Godly Valkyrie")
Must... be... a semi-good pirate. Hopefully joining a bossing guild will let me be accepted in boss runs, even if I suck. Speaking of which, would a Valkyrie need to HP wash to Zakum?
Gunslinger Build (Lv. 10-200) - VladTheLvr - 2008-10-17
Acim Wrote:*still feels the need to ask*
Anyone know BaSeLy's equips in the screenshot? ("Level 92 Godly Valkyrie")
Must... be... a semi-good pirate. Hopefully joining a bossing guild will let me be accepted in boss runs, even if I suck. Speaking of which, would a Valkyrie need to HP wash to Zakum?
No I believe valkyries (captians) will have more than enough hp for zakum when they reach todays accepted zakum levels for attacker (120). Also they have BSHIP so they can avoid getting hit and just get on and off the ship.
Gunslinger Build (Lv. 10-200) - blitzkrieg - 2008-10-18
Acim Wrote:*still feels the need to ask*
Anyone know BaSeLy's equips in the screenshot? ("Level 92 Godly Valkyrie")
Must... be... a semi-good pirate. Hopefully joining a bossing guild will let me be accepted in boss runs, even if I suck. Speaking of which, would a Valkyrie need to HP wash to Zakum?
I posted BaSely's stats and gun a page or so back.. they're nothing to get too excited about to be honest lol. not as godly as people were thinking, which I think definitely says something about a valkyrie's damage.
as for HP washing, it isn't necessary. you'll definitely have more than enough HP for zakum by 120, but for me, I had enough in 9x after a few washes. currently at level 107 I have 3399 HP.
Gunslinger Build (Lv. 10-200) - Russt - 2008-10-18
Takebacker Wrote:20ks aren't very uncommon especially if advanced homing is multiplicative like i think it is. O_o It's 18xx% per cannon maxed if it's multiplicative. :O18xx% per cannon, but only 456% or whatever per hit.
20k = 456%
100% = 43xx max base damage range.
Looks like a 15x BM/MM's, and they get +10 passive attack from Boost.
Gunslinger Build (Lv. 10-200) - Arroz - 2008-10-21
Acim Wrote:*still feels the need to ask*
Anyone know BaSeLy's equips in the screenshot? ("Level 92 Godly Valkyrie")
Must... be... a semi-good pirate. Hopefully joining a bossing guild will let me be accepted in boss runs, even if I suck. Speaking of which, would a Valkyrie need to HP wash to Zakum?
they are terrible at bosses dude it sucks D:, if only adv homing affected the whole party
Gunslinger Build (Lv. 10-200) - VladTheLvr - 2008-10-21
Arroz Wrote:they are terrible at bosses dude it sucks D:, if only adv homing affected the whole party
Are you talking about valkyries or captians? Cuz Appled captians would do really well at bosses IMO...
Gunslinger Build (Lv. 10-200) - DeeD - 2008-10-21
ndynslvr Wrote:Are you talking about Valkyries or captains? Cuz Appled captains would do really well at bosses IMO...
Srs? I'd rather apple a Valkyrie and I think most people would agree.
Also he was talking about Valkyries.
Gunslinger Build (Lv. 10-200) - VladTheLvr - 2008-10-21
DeeD Wrote:Srs? I'd rather apple a valkyrie and I think most people would agree.
I believe you have something mixed up here
Gunslinger-2nd job
Valkyrie-3rd
Captains-4th
A captain is much more powerful than a Valkyrie due to battle ship. Plus a 4th job is more suited to bossing than third...
MAJOR SPOILERS
![[Image: captainobvious.jpg]](http://healthhabits.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/captainobvious.jpg)
Gunslinger Build (Lv. 10-200) - Bribery - 2008-10-21
ndynslvr Wrote:MAJOR SPOILERS
lolpun.
So I've been busy these past few weeks. Anything new in the Gunslinger department?
Gunslinger Build (Lv. 10-200) - Takebacker - 2008-10-21
Bribery Wrote:lolpun.
So I've been busy these past few weeks. Anything new in the Gunslinger department?
Captains outdamage appled, SE'd NLs apparently.
Oh, and pirates are being released next month.