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Hacked Items - BMW - 2009-01-07
In my opinion, I don't think it matters either way. Hacking or not, as long as you're having fun in the game, that's all that matters. I wouldn't think it would matter after you're long gone from the game. Would I accept a hacked perfect item for a ridiculously low to free price? Hell yeah I would. Even if I couldn't use it I could sell it for a ridiculous amount of money. And buy a nice laptop or something.
Hacked Items - Xiyuuna - 2009-01-07
The attitudes of people these days...
1. Stfu you can't do anything about it.
2. If you can't beat them Join them.
3. Just accept it and stop talking about it.
4. I quit.
Hacked Items - godofturtles - 2009-01-07
That wasn't always my attitude, thats just the way it has become due to nexon's inability to take action. I'm just saying that it just isn't worth it to put effort into determining which items are legit and which aren't because no matter how likely it might seem, without proof you really aren't doing something morally wrong.
If Nexon actually had an effective means of turning in hackers and bringing attention to shops that appear to being hacked, then this would be different.
Hacked Items - Blaine - 2009-01-07
This..."obviously hacked" thing is bullshit, not everything perfect is hacked...going around saying perfect items are illegit ruins it for the one lucky person who manages to make something perfect legitimately.
Hacked Items - Typhoon - 2009-01-07
Blaine Wrote:This..."obviously hacked" thing is bullpomegranate, not everything perfect is hacked...going around saying perfect items are illegit ruins it for the one lucky person who manages to make something perfect legitimately.
so are you saying that some person with 10 ilbis in their shop with random letters/numbers as their ign could have just got lucky at wolf spiders too?
Hacked Items - Xiyuuna - 2009-01-07
o_o But there are ones that I even know aren't legit and others would still buy it, they know it's not legit. It's not an unknown.
And Nexon doesn't just make the game what it is, the players also make the game what it is. But I guess there's no such thing as pulling a vigilante for an MMORPG.
I suppose I shouldn't have even bothered to bring up the topic with this whole roll over and die thing. You'd think the situation is so bad that you all just quit for good, don't lurk the forums and never look back.
Morals have no place on Maple Story, buy hacked items that you know are hacked, sell that item for mesos, sell those mesos to a mesos seller site which is responsible for most of the hacker and leecher issues. Ksing is ok and justified after all no need to respect one another it's just a game. If you get too bored you can fund yourself with hacks or even just become a hacker yourself. And that all doesn't matter because Nexon won't do anything about it...
great attitude.
Hacked Items - Avenge - 2009-01-07
godofturtles Wrote:I'm just saying that it just isn't worth it to put effort into determining which items are legit and which aren't
It doesn't take any effort! None. If someone makes a perfect +7 10/30% item legitimately it will be known because that person should be pretty well known in the community to begin with. What legit would sell perfectly scrolled items anyway? Wouldn't they keep it for themselves to use?
Hacked Items - godofturtles - 2009-01-07
=( You took my statements and made them 10x more negative then they were. Nexon makes this game the way it is by giving hackers the ability to have so much influence. We try to fight them, we end up banned. We complain about them and our tickets get ignored or auto-responded to.
I never said morals shouldn't exist either, I said that you can't take morals and try to turn them into enforcable rules. I'm pretty much saying that regarding this ONE issue, it isn't worth worrying about because unless you are sure the item is hacked as in 100% sure, then you might as well buy it. And yea, I know a +7 item with 10/30% scrolls probably is illegit, what I'm really referring to is shops full of ilbis or shops with great but not perfect equips.
And I never said that practices that are against the TOS are ok o.O Meso buying, selling to meso sellers, ksing, hacks are against the TOS and I don't support them and nobody else here seems to. Isn't it kinda extreme to say that because I buy an ilbi that may or may not be hacked I've funded the entire hacker and leecher community and therefore am just as bad (leeching isn't even against the TOS, not a credible issue to refer to in a negative way).
Hacked Items - Xiyuuna - 2009-01-07
godofturtles Wrote:=( You took my statements and made them 10x more negative then they were. Nexon makes this game the way it is by giving hackers the ability to have so much influence. We try to fight them, we end up banned. We complain about them and our tickets get ignored or auto-responded to.
I never said morals shouldn't exist either, I said that you can't take morals and try to turn them into enforcable rules. I'm pretty much saying that regarding this ONE issue, it isn't worth worrying about because unless you are sure the item is hacked as in 100% sure, then you might as well buy it. And yea, I know a +7 item with 10/30% scrolls probably is illegit, what I'm really referring to is shops full of ilbis or shops with great but not perfect equips.
And I never said that practices that are against the TOS are ok o.O Meso buying, selling to meso sellers, ksing, hacks are against the TOS and I don't support them and nobody else here seems to. Isn't it kinda extreme to say that because I buy an ilbi that may or may not be hacked I've funded the entire hacker and leecher community and therefore am just as bad (leeching isn't even against the TOS, not a credible issue to refer to in a negative way).
One little statement, one bit of negative attitude goes a long way and can form the building blocks and open the gateways to all those other things. If people can get away with one thing...then it's like SO WHAT about that TOS, pfft Nexon isn't doing this and that so why should I bother doing whatever the right thing it.
Hacked Items - godofturtles - 2009-01-07
Well my point was that you mentioned many moral issues that are backed by the TOS, but buying items from a shop that might be hacked isn't against the rules because nexon can't hold people responsible for buying something that they didn't realize was not legit. I do however recall the duped white scroll incident, and that in fact was obvious to nearly everyone and was bannable because those scrolls were not just obtained by tainted people, they were created by tainted methods (people did get banned). What nexon isn't doing is fixing the root of all of these problems, which is to keep gameguard updated enough to prevent mass hacking.
Hacked Items - summer - 2009-01-07
some people are just attaching string after string from this pointless issue and making it such a huge deal >.>
Hacked Items - godofturtles - 2009-01-07
summer Wrote:some people are just attaching string after string from this pointless issue and making it such a huge deal >.>
Thats kinda how I feel. Every time things get worse, its not because of us, its because nexon won't do anything to prevent it. Nexon gets laxed, and people start taking advantage of their silence. I've played maple for a long time, and the hackers of today are not worse than hackers of the past. Its just a new wave that will vanish for a while and then a new one will appear. Hackers only get new possibilies and opportunites due to the actions of nexon and their lack of security.
And about the leeching issue again, leeching was only made possible due to nexon as well. People use up every advantage they can get, these advantages aren't always against the rules (and the ones that are usuallyg get fixed such as glitched pqs) but are made possible due to nexon.
Instead of fighting these hackers, we should fight the ones who are empowering them by virtually ignoring them. The only ones who can stop this is nexon, and if we try to do it ourselves we seem to be the ones who pay for it.
Hacked Items - DjDisko - 2009-01-07
Guy's common look at what your arguing over. I mean yes its not cool that hacker's can just toss item after item out and make a killing with meso's. But if you think about it we've all probably bought an item that a hacker has gotten be it an ore or an ilbi. The only difference between us & a person with a perfect weapon is we can point them out and be like shame shame. The fact is there isn't much we can do about hackers it is Nexon's problem. Yes, we do have to deal with them and yes on more then one occasion we've gotten screwed over by a few. But you just can't run around calling everyone with a perfect weapon illegit. People do buy them and there isn't much we can do about them buying them. Not every perfect weapon you come across is haxed. I am not saying that its ok to buy them I am just saying it should be looked down on is all.
Hacked Items - Xiyuuna - 2009-01-07
^^ If passionate about fighting back...are you fighting back? Or Just arguing on the forums about it lol. Too bad people won't give up their NX buying for a few days, a week, or a month to get some attention. And of course even the suggestion of "taking action" will just get people further into a freenzy with the new attitudes.
Nexon is just slow....really....really....REALLY....slow. But how do we know...they could have some full fledged development team trying to think of ways to combat the issue that plagues many MMOs. They try one thing and that doesn't work so wait and think of something else?
mm Far-fetched?
o_o and COME ON...there are just some items YOU KNOW aren't legit and if you say you didn't know when you got the item you must really be oblivious.
Hacked Items - Skylit - 2009-01-07
If there was a perfect 21 ATT bwg in fm put up by a hacker in shop and you had enough mesos to buy it for cheap, you wouldn't? I would find that hard to believe because I bet everyone on this forum would buy and keep or even try to resell for the desired amount in mts or via other methods.
There is no perfect version of maplestory. Just get over it.
Hacked Items - Stereo - 2009-01-07
I won't buy anything from the first few rooms because I know 90% of the shops there are hacked/botted >_>
Is that the same thing?
Hacked Items - godofturtles - 2009-01-07
Stereo Wrote:I won't buy anything from the first few rooms because I know 90% of the shops there are hacked/botted >_>
Is that the same thing?
No, not a hacked or botted shop, the items in the shop that are hacked or botted. By passing on these items, you might be unintentionally missing a good, legit deal.
Hacked Items - Xiyuuna - 2009-01-07
Skylit Wrote:If there was a perfect 21 ATT bwg in fm put up by a hacker in shop and you had enough mesos to buy it for cheap, you wouldn't? I would find that hard to believe because I bet everyone on this forum would buy and keep or even try to resell for the desired amount in mts or via other methods.
There is no perfect version of maplestory. Just get over it.
o____o I'm happy with my 11 att scg. I barely go into the free market nor really care about my decent equips since I'm usually too poor to to be able to afford those fancy items because all my mesos go into training and bossing.
Not everyone is greedy or damage whores...
I can kill just about everything anyways, making it one minute faster because a few more attack on my range isn't that great.
lol Just accept it.
and as for the first few FMs...gah...certains guilds that control the first few FMs...are really obvious hackers and the ones that auto click shops. I know that some legit guilds sometimes manage to squeeze a legit shop into those areas. Still I think you'd have to be a really oblivious person not to know what is what.
Hacked Items - summer - 2009-01-07
good deal, maybe... but most of the first few fms are by fm hackers *acers or wtv you call them* who just hog those spots 24/7 overpricing everything... so i don't even bother going there... EVERYTHING there is if not double... triple or even quadruple the elsewhere price... saddest thing is, people BUY them... and other seeing it's been bought would raise theirs as well... so the price keep skyrocketing on everything
first few FM isn't about hack or no hack... it's about market players who raise prices to their liking >.>
Hacked Items - fawrh - 2009-01-07
now this thread makes me feel bad for spending 20mil in the FM last night buying every dimond that I can find in hopes that the maker skill comes out in the next patch or 2
