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Empress set Preparation. - ShinkuDragon - 2011-12-05
¬Rob Wrote:My post puts him @173, with 3 open slots for empress gear.that it does, all i'm saying is that he doesn't have to go for the high-cost rising sun set, if he can get the dex from much cheaper equips, he can.
¬Rob Wrote:http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=49739as for this, you only lose your buffs, the set unequips and reequips almost inmediately, it's the reason why on the nexon page i'm not wearing helmet/weapon/gloves/shoes, buff doesn't apply unless i'm playing, but then it applies most of the time.
s: Better not cc then.
so on CC you lose your buffs, your stuff won't unequip and stay unequipped.
@above: yes, they both should work, i know P.Training does.
Empress set Preparation. - Demalkren - 2011-12-05
Wow. I can't express how much joy I feel for knowing how to do this now! This is going to be cake
Now I am one step closer to going through with my plan to be the GMS equivalent of that 999k hitting DS from KMS
Empress set Preparation. - ShinkuDragon - 2011-12-05
Demalkren Wrote:Wow. I can't express how much joy I feel for knowing how to do this now! This is going to be cake
Now I am one step closer to going through with my plan to be the GMS equivalent of that 999k hitting DS from KMS
psssh, do it with a DrK
Empress set Preparation. - Demalkren - 2011-12-05
ShinkuDragon Wrote:psssh, do it with a DrK
As much as I've always loved warrior classes I've never been a big fan of Drks really. I'm extremely attracted to the broken survivability that Demon slayers offer. and I don't feel like going back to my Hero or Aran.
Empress set Preparation. - ShinkuDragon - 2011-12-05
Demalkren Wrote:As much as I've always loved warrior classes I've never been a big fan of Drks really. I'm extremely attracted to the broken survivability that Demon slayers offer. and I don't feel like going back to my Hero or Aran.don't be sad when they impaling for 999999*5*6
and then dying to seduce cause nobody sold hero potions
Empress set Preparation. - Demalkren - 2011-12-05
ShinkuDragon Wrote:don't be sad when they impaling for 999999*5*6
ahaha, LF> the range of that Demon slayer hitting 999k* 4 Demon breaths
Empress set Preparation. - Dark Link - 2011-12-05
Demalkren Wrote:ahaha, LF> the range of that Demon slayer hitting 999k* 4 Demon breaths
Supposedly 265k range from what the comments said on that video.
Empress set Preparation. - Stereo - 2011-12-05
ShinkuDragon Wrote:someone else should be able to tell you the required dex with everything on, but to start, you need a good 170 dex and two slots without equips (where empress stuff will go)Required dex with everything equipped is easy to calculate: highest total of stats required by the equip plus its secondary stats, not counting the set bonus.
For the VL set I believe that's the overall with ~26 dex requiring 170, which means 196 total. On account of this there's no point getting an above-avg dex overall unless you've got a higher dex equip somewhere else - if you had a 30 dex overall, you'd just need 200 total instead. ie. all other equips the same, the overall will cost more and not save you any requirements. But say you had a 35 dex helm, then that would be the main requirement (205) and the overall would have useful bonuses.
Empress set Preparation. - ShinkuDragon - 2011-12-05
Stereo Wrote:Required dex with everything equipped is easy to calculate: highest total of stats required by the equip plus its secondary stats, not counting the set bonus.
For the VL set I believe that's the overall with ~26 dex requiring 170, which means 196 total. On account of this there's no point getting an above-avg dex overall unless you've got a higher dex equip somewhere else - if you had a 30 dex overall, you'd just need 200 total instead. ie. all other equips the same, the overall will cost more and not save you any requirements. But say you had a 35 dex helm, then that would be the main requirement (205) and the overall would have useful bonuses.
i meant more along the lines of the minimum dex that equips the set. once i have my full pvp set equipped (but red-out) i need to get 138 dex i believe, and the set automatically equips completely and leaves me at 178 dex.
i'm looking for his minimum dex required (in my case, the 138)
Empress set Preparation. - KhainiWest - 2011-12-05
Scroll decent no stat accessories then enhance them to 10 star. Bam, enough dex, extreme flexibility.
Empress set Preparation. - Stereo - 2011-12-05
That's tough to work out due to %all-stat potentials, it should be approximately the stat requirement minus the set bonus though. Might be a bit of a gap if going from 138 to 178 dex means +2-3 dex on %potentials, which would be the case with +5-8%all.
Empress set Preparation. - ShinkuDragon - 2011-12-05
Stereo Wrote:That's tough to work out due to %all-stat potentials, it should be approximately the stat requirement minus the set bonus though. Might be a bit of a gap if going from 138 to 178 dex means +2-3 dex on %potentials.number shouldn't change though, he needs to get X dex for the set to equip itself, and until the set equips itself it's potentials don't work.
actually, let me go and calculate it, sec.
helm=25
bracer=16
overall=30
boots=15
weapon=20
set effect=20
if i understand how this works:
you need 170+30 from the overall, so 200. we substract all the other equips+bonus (cape not included since it can be equipped with 0 dex)
200
-96
=104
so once you manage to get all equips on you, you'll only need 104 dex from accessories+cape and such, the rest the set will provide once you reach 104 dex and everything will auto-equip.
Empress set Preparation. - Stereo - 2011-12-05
Yeah, that's pretty much it. For the set to go on, you need that 200 total with everything working - so if it would only add up to 199, then it unequips them all since they do rely on the overall's bonus.
The game tests stat requirements by looking at what everything except the current equip adds - and for some reason I guess set bonuses don't count towards this. Once you meet every item's requirement this is fine, but if one doesn't equip then others tend to stop working either.
Empress set Preparation. - ShinkuDragon - 2011-12-05
funny stuff to add btw, if ANY of the equips bar the overall has extra dex, the total needed (104) goes down by that amount, same if your item is underaverage and has less dex than normal, then you'd need that much extra dex on your accessories.
so to OP: problem isn't keeping it equipped, because ANYONE can reach 104 dex (4base+30skill+15monkey+22HTP+11shoulder= 82 already) but getting the insane 170 dex requirement without having too many equip items.
Empress set Preparation. - Stereo - 2011-12-05
Personally I have a 34 dex top+bottom, 15 dex earrings & shield that I can temporarily equip, and that pretty much covers it. Although that's with 35 base...
My nemesis is the Taru Spirit Cape (req. 85) since my attack gear doesn't add much dex. Classes with +dex skills are fine, but eg. my Aran? Nope, not going on unless I make about 25 dex worth of dex gear appear in place of str/atk.
Empress set Preparation. - ShinkuDragon - 2011-12-05
Stereo Wrote:Personally I have a 34 dex top+bottom, 15 dex earrings & shield that I can temporarily equip, and that pretty much covers it. Although that's with 35 base...
My nemesis is the Taru Spirit Cape (req. 85) since my attack gear doesn't add much dex. Classes with +dex skills are fine, but eg. my Aran? Nope, not going on unless I make about 25 dex worth of dex gear appear in place of str/atk.
arans have it harder indeed, they don't get a +30 skill on union do they? and the amount of good endgame tradeables is little (untradeable shoulder, helms for the most part, pendant...)
Empress set Preparation. - Liteness - 2011-12-05
just have 23 base instead of 4
Empress set Preparation. - Demalkren - 2011-12-05
Woke up this morning to see all this math, I sincerely appreciate you both for calculating this out for me. As I was not aware of how this worked exactly until now. thank you for your time!
@above a true boss would put those extra AP into HP at 200!
kidding but that's a real option also.
Empress set Preparation. - Fuzz - 2011-12-05
¬Rob Wrote:4 base
+7 Codex
+3 medal (Saint Exorcist)
Rising Sun full set = +39 & +20 from set bonus
+14 evo 1/2 rings
+4 legend ring
+22 HTP
+5 Kenta goggle
+7 cape
+11 shoulder
+12 force shield
=148 not counting link skill or physical training. (Does physical training work for equipping gear now?)
Then add in normal/temp gear, and substitute it piece by piece for 140 gear
+21 czak
+4 or more badge
=173
Equip overall, shoe, and glove = +61.
=234
Swap czak for 140 hat = +25 - 21 = +4 and the set's +20 bonus = 258 total.
I like playing with stat requirements. Going to go for the 140 gear, at least 3 pieces, for my F/P, myself. ^^
Also, couldn't MW help you get to your goal, do all your work in the 10-20 minutes MW lasts for, then when it wears off, you'd already be set?
Empress set Preparation. - dpeterlin - 2011-12-05
Fuzz Wrote:Also, couldn't MW help you get to your goal, do all your work in the 10-20 minutes MW lasts for, then when it wears off, you'd already be set?
MW only affects base stats. Being at base 4 makes MW useless for this.