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US and UK plan to attack Iran - Slaking - 2011-11-05
Ladon Wrote:Also "China nukes US" does China even have a nuclear weapon program?
Yes they do. Or at least had.
At the end of 1998, the US, USSR/Russia, France, the UK, China, India and Pakistan all had detonated at least one nuclear device. Here's a 14-minute video of the detonations between 1945 and 1998 of those countries. (skip to 13:40 or so if you just want to see the results, and not every individual one)
US and UK plan to attack Iran - SaptaZapta - 2011-11-05
Slaking Wrote:Yes they do. Or at least had.
At the end of 1998, the US, USSR/Russia, France, the UK, China, India and Pakistan all had detonated at least one nuclear device. Here's a 14-minute video of the detonations between 1945 and 1998 of those countries. (skip to 13:40 or so if you just want to see the results, and not every individual one)
Relevant?
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US and UK plan to attack Iran - Greg - 2011-11-05
Iran's a pretty cool country I guess. There is a lot of Iranian blood in Armenian men such as myself.
Too bad they're getting raped soon, though. I'll be safe here in my house not caring.
US and UK plan to attack Iran - Mibs - 2011-11-05
Well this won't be good for my family's mental health.
US and UK plan to attack Iran - CrazyForDex - 2011-11-05
KhainiWest Wrote:Whether they do or not they'd be pulling the carpet under themselves. Their economy is going way to fast, and they are investing in US bonds, so if the US crashes so does china lol
This. The whole idea of another World War is pretty stupid because if they happens, international trade would be extremely limited and the entire world economy would go to pomegranate. We owe China a lot of money, if they declare war on us or nuke us, they won't ever see a dime. It's hard to get into major wars today when everyone is constantly tieing their prosperity to other countries.
US and UK plan to attack Iran - jhkplaya888 - 2011-11-05
Hopefully Israel can wage war by themselves and defeat iran, then they can buy more weapons and fund the US and defeat the iranian idiots.
US and UK plan to attack Iran - modular - 2011-11-06
i dont see russia taking sides, especially with muslim theocracies against the US. if anything it would be in their interest to be on the winning side and restart the soviet empire by crushing the people who are cousins of the people who rebelled and broke away.
china... probably would side with iran.
US and UK plan to attack Iran - Raul - 2011-11-06
modular Wrote:china... probably would side with iran.
I don't think so.
China has something like 1-2 trillion in US dollars that would become worthless if the US was defeated.
Largest foreign reserves in the world.
They have nothing to gain by the US being defeated, their loans would never be repaid in that case.
Short of reparations levied on the US of course.
They'd probably be neutral or with the US, which is the best business move.
US and UK plan to attack Iran - modular - 2011-11-06
even though china has a large investment in the US, they take every chance they can to oppose us. its political suicide for a Communist (capital c) to support the US. good business wont get in the way of political philosophy...
US and UK plan to attack Iran - Raul - 2011-11-06
modular Wrote:even though china has a large investment in the US, they take every chance they can to oppose us. its political suicide for a Communist (capital c) to support the US. good business wont get in the way of political philosophy...
Good business is their political philosophy.
And they know that entering into WWIII would be suicide.
And that's exactly what this would be.
NATO and India v. China, the Middle East, and Russia would make WWII look like a border skirmish. It would be MADness all over again.
US and UK plan to attack Iran - CrazyForDex - 2011-11-06
Raul Wrote:Good business is their political philosophy.
And they know that entering into WWIII would be suicide.
And that's exactly what this would be.
NATO and India v. China, the Middle East, and Russia would make WWII look like a border skirmish. It would be MADness all over again.
Lol like India is in any situation to go to war. Any attempt at world war would end up screwing us all.
US and UK plan to attack Iran - Luxeraph - 2011-11-06
CrazyForDex Wrote:Lol like India is in any situation to go to war. Any attempt at world war would end up screwing us all.And the previous wars haven't?
Only thing different from those two is that we are far more globilazed.
Also saying that china wont attack the US due to them having money there, the US used to sell oil to japan before the WWII, also people don't like to go to war with the US since their apart from the rest of the world while the US have bases everywhere.
US and UK plan to attack Iran - Blunderr - 2011-11-06
Oh of course. Scare me a week before a slew of my relatives go back to Iran. Just great.
US and UK plan to attack Iran - KhainiWest - 2011-11-06
Luxeraph Wrote:And the previous wars haven't?
Only thing different from those two is that we are far more globilazed.
Also saying that china wont attack the US due to them having money there, the US used to sell oil to japan before the WWII, also people don't like to go to war with the US since their apart from the rest of the world while the US have bases everywhere.
...That comparison doesn't work. China's wealth IS the usa.
US and UK plan to attack Iran - Luxeraph - 2011-11-06
KhainiWest Wrote:...That comparison doesn't work. China's wealth IS the usa.Nope, although 1 trillion is a lot that doesn't mean by any means that China's wealth is the USA, they trade with almost every country in the world also what I meant is that current economic agreements mean pomegranate when in a war and more if you plan to take over the country which you had said agreements plus back in WWII almost everyone stopped trades which made foreing money pretty much worthless (unless of course is with your allies and they have something beside money to give you) and thats why the US is the one that got out of it the best (had both things needed, iron and oil).
US and UK plan to attack Iran - KhainiWest - 2011-11-06
Luxeraph Wrote:Nope, although 1 trillion is a lot that doesn't mean by any means that China's wealth is the USA, they trade with almost every country in the world also what I meant is that current economic agreements mean pomegranate when in a war and more if you plan to take over the country which you had said agreements plus back in WWII almost everyone stopped trades which made foreing money pretty much worthless (unless of course is with your allies and they have something beside money to give you) and thats why the US is the one that got out of it the best (had both things needed, iron and oil).
It's common knowledge that majority of china's assets are liquidated in the most common trading resource, which is USA bonds. If china would go to war with us their entire economy would go to sh`it. Not to mention that the USA has a fair amount of reserves of both said resources so it just be a repeat of ww2.
In other words their economy is booming so f`ucking fast that they have to invest into something that is easy to manage. Think of china gaining so much meso that the only sensible thing would to do is to convert it to nx, because everyone accept's NX. I honestly don't know how you can argue with this point, as stated, is common knowledge
US and UK plan to attack Iran - Luxeraph - 2011-11-06
KhainiWest Wrote:It's common knowledge that majority of china's assets are liquidated in the most common trading resource, which is USA bonds. If china would go to war with us their entire economy would go to sh`it. Not to mention that the USA has a fair amount of reserves of both said resources so it just be a repeat of ww2.Fair enough, though I'll still stand by my main point that although is not likely that China would wage war against the US doesn't mean they wouldn't (war is anything but logical).
In other words their economy is booming so f`ucking fast that they have to invest into something that is easy to manage. Think of china gaining so much meso that the only sensible thing would to do is to convert it to nx, because everyone accept's NX. I honestly don't know how you can argue with this point, as stated, is common knowledge
US and UK plan to attack Iran - modular - 2011-11-06
Luxeraph Wrote:(war is anything but logical)
strong point. maybe it could spawn from some US ambassador making some stupid gaffe. and then economics get thrown aside for hurt pride.
US and UK plan to attack Iran - Luxeraph - 2011-11-06
modular Wrote:strong point. maybe it could spawn from some US ambassador making some stupid gaffe. and then economics get thrown aside for hurt pride.*cough*WWI*cough*
US and UK plan to attack Iran - KhainiWest - 2011-11-07
modular Wrote:strong point. maybe it could spawn from some US ambassador making some stupid gaffe. and then economics get thrown aside for hurt pride.
This?