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Sign FOr Gallos Dungeon - Phoenix Wright - 2010-12-10
Myles Wrote:No-one's making you go and train there. Don't like people being there? Suck it up and grind somewhere else :x.
Would you use the same argument for all balance issues in Maplestory?
Sign FOr Gallos Dungeon - ScherzoDeLuce - 2010-12-10
mmm okay. i won't say anything if nexon decide to nerf these monsters.
but just know that, after this, you have no right to complain that maplestory is a grindfest or anything related to training speed, rates per hour, etc etc.
Sign FOr Gallos Dungeon - Link - 2010-12-10
ScherzoDeLuce Wrote:mmm okay. i won't say anything if nexon decide to nerf these monsters.
but just know that, after this, you have no right to complain that maplestory is a grindfest or anything related to training speed, rates per hour, etc etc.
That's how it's supposed to be. If you don't like it, don't play MapleStory.
I can say that after Big Bang, grinding is much, much, much, much, much easier and faster than it was before Big Bang. Even at level 161, I was leveling fast as hell and I wasn't even grinding on monsters my level. I just killed lower level monsters to hunt for items and stuff, yet I gained experience as fast as a mother f'ucker.
If you can't stand the grind of MapleStory after Big Bang, why the hell have you even been playing it before Big Bang? Seriously... If you can't play the game the way it's intended, you shouldn't play it at all.
Sign FOr Gallos Dungeon - ScherzoDeLuce - 2010-12-10
ShiKage Wrote:That's how it's supposed to be. If you don't like it, don't play MapleStory.
I can say that after Big Bang, grinding is much, much, much, much, much easier and faster than it was before Big Bang. Even at level 161, I was leveling fast as hell and I wasn't even grinding on monsters my level. I just killed lower level monsters to hunt for items and stuff, yet I gained experience as fast as a mother f'ucker.
If you can't stand the grind of MapleStory after Big Bang, why the hell have you even been playing it before Big Bang? Seriously... If you can't play the game the way it's intended, you shouldn't play it at all.
oh no mi boy, did i ever mention that i didn't like it?
i can train just fine with BB or no BB.
i just find it amusing that people would complain over good stuff.
because for the past 5 years of GMS history, people only complain about bad stuff.
Sign FOr Gallos Dungeon - Phoenix Wright - 2010-12-10
ScherzoDeLuce Wrote:oh no mi boy, did i ever mention that i didn't like it?
i can train just fine with BB or no BB.
i just find it amusing that people would complain over good stuff.
because for the past 5 years of GMS history, people only complain about bad stuff.
This World Tour mob situation isn't what anyone should call "good stuff".
Was it "good stuff" when BF wasn't tagged a boss? Or when Dark Tokens dropped off Jr. Newties?
Sign FOr Gallos Dungeon - Remoir - 2010-12-10
I had to lol at all the people in that thread that were defending gallos exp. They are obviously the people that sit there and ks everyone, and the people that have no patience to actually grind in the correct post BB areas.
Sign FOr Gallos Dungeon - Loose - 2010-12-10
Also tone down Truckers. Those guys have what? Four people per platform? What the hell?
Sign FOr Gallos Dungeon - KaosStorm - 2010-12-10
Eddikins Wrote:I had to lol at all the people in that thread that were defending gallos exp. They are obviously the people that sit there and ks everyone, and the people that have no patience to actually grind in the correct post BB areas.
This, SO much this. I really can't believe people don't grasp the idea behind the nerf. Because, in case you haven't noticed the trend post-BB, MOBS OF SIMILAR LEVEL GIVE SIMILAR EXP! Really not that hard to understand.
When two mobs give ridiculously excessive exp for their level it's not "good stuff", it's an error from the devs. Otherwise, why bother making (and changing in the case of BB) all those maps when, in the end, they want you to stay in the same place for all your maple life?
Sign FOr Gallos Dungeon - Kunagisa - 2010-12-10
Eddikins Wrote:I had to lol at all the people in that thread that were defending gallos exp. They are obviously the people that sit there and ks everyone, and the people that have no patience to actually grind in the correct post BB areas.
I had to lol at all the people in this thread preaching gallo nerfing. They are obviously people that are jealous that others can achieve the level they worked years for in a fraction of the time, enjoy spending their whole day playing the game for a measly 6% increase, think they're "pro" because they endured such slow training, and would happily grind there if they weren't so jealous of every map being taken.
See? I can make grossly exaggerated and inaccurate stereotypes as well.
By the way, I haven't trained at gallos, I've been at Bains. It's not worth it if you have to wait hours for a map, by that time I could easily have been training elsewhere and end up with more exp. I believe having a minidungeon for them would be stupid, unless they were nerfed. As they are now, they're limited to people lucky enough to find a spot, or people with connections that can find them a spot on a channel as soon as someone leaves.
And I believe OP's proposal to be useless, because he's just bringing attention to gallos, not realizing that it'd be easier for Nexon to nerf them instead of creating (or transfering, dunno if SEA has one) a new map for them.
Sign FOr Gallos Dungeon - SwordStaker - 2010-12-10
Myles Wrote:No-one's making you go and train there. Don't like people being there? Suck it up and grind somewhere else :x.Thats really stupid. It's not fair to many other players especially with GMS' track record of certain guilds and certain people literally controlling these maps and saying who and who cannot train on them. I sign for nerf.
Sign FOr Gallos Dungeon - xLeviathan - 2010-12-10
So...they could just expand the maps or give other mops equally decent EXP instead of nerfing the only ones that are there?
Sign FOr Gallos Dungeon - sicnarf - 2010-12-10
xLeviathan Wrote:So...they could just expand the maps or give other mops equally decent EXP instead of nerfing the only ones that are there?
Or they could fix the World Tour mobs like they did with all the other mobs they already adjusted. If they were to adjust that of the other monsters, that would be akin to just going back to pre-BB monsters.
Sign FOr Gallos Dungeon - xLeviathan - 2010-12-10
sicnarf Wrote:Or they could fix the World Tour mobs like they did with all the other mobs they already adjusted. If they were to adjust that of the other monsters, that would be akin to just going back to pre-BB monsters.
Honestly they just need better mini-dungeons (not just for these mobs, too, but for non-WT monsters) and the world would be complacent again. For now, at least. Well, I would. It's still too hard to find a good spot.
Sign FOr Gallos Dungeon - Kunagisa - 2010-12-10
xLeviathan Wrote:So...they could just expand the maps or give other mops equally decent EXP instead of nerfing the only ones that are there?
The rest of the changes were already done. You can't expect Nexon to go out of their way to tweak other monsters with as nice exp as Gallos when they can easily just tweak the numbers on one monster to fix the whole mess. It also wouldn't matter how large the map is, you won't be finding a channel there. Mini-dungeon is essentially a map expansion where everyone gets a free map to train on.
Sign FOr Gallos Dungeon - xLeviathan - 2010-12-10
Kunagisa Wrote:The rest of the changes were already done. You can't expect Nexon to go out of their way to tweak other monsters with as nice exp as Gallos when they can easily just tweak the numbers on one monster to fix the whole mess. It also wouldn't matter how large the map is, you won't be finding a channel there. Mini-dungeon is essentially a map expansion where everyone gets a free map to train on.
I'm missing the point on why they should change it, though. Obviously, there's not enough room -- so what? It seems selfish to want to take it away from the people that CAN train there because YOU want to do so, also. So instead of maybe providing a fix where everyone can do it, you'd rather take it away, period? If people KS there -- don't go. Pretty simple. You think they're broken anyway, so why would you?
This post:
Some Random Guy on Nexon Forums Wrote:Boo hoo. You're probably just another Q.Qing noob whose entire philosphy about the truckers, or any other
mob that gives off high EXP is "If I can't train here without problems, NO ONE WILL!". Here's what I think.
Stop complaining. Play the game. Or gtfo. The choice is yours. Nexon doesn't care that you're upset that
you can't train at these spots, So youre wasting your time. ALL of you are.
Not so elegant but true in it's entirety.
Sign FOr Gallos Dungeon - Manu - 2010-12-10
I just want to quote the petition to show the lovely grammar in it.
Quote:Dear Nexon,
Before the Big Bang Patch many Maplers wished Gallopera Mini-Dungeon. Because of other Problems u did not implented Gallopera Mini-Dungeon, which we accepted.
After Big Bang theres A Mega KS War in Gallopera, which makes training bad.
Pls Remove Mini Dungeon we dont need ( example Pig Dungeon, Sleepywood Dungeon) and make a Gallopera Dungeon to prevent difficulties.
Thank You NexonAmerica
Maplers Sign for the Petition!
Anyway, asking for a mini dungeon doesn't make sense, the mobs are clearly broken and should be put to regular level:exp:hp ratio, I've been training my sniper fairly fast at roids, it's level 90 only, but it works for me, I'll probably move somewhere else soon because I outleveled roids.
There should also be a petition to fix truckers and ghost ship pq, those 2 are broken and give way too much exp.
Sign FOr Gallos Dungeon - Kunagisa - 2010-12-10
Darkmaniak Wrote:I just want to quote the petition to show the lovely grammar in it.
I didn't even click the link to look at the petition, but thanks for showing this. I smiled reading it in Yoda's voice.
And isn't the Ghost PQ glitch already fixed?
Sign FOr Gallos Dungeon - Sarah - 2010-12-10
xLeviathan Wrote:I'm missing the point on why they should change it, though. Obviously, there's not enough room -- so what? It seems selfish to want to take it away from the people that CAN train there because YOU want to do so, also. So instead of maybe providing a fix where everyone can do it, you'd rather take it away, period? If people KS there -- don't go. Pretty simple. You think they're broken anyway, so why would you?
This post:
Not so elegant but true in it's entirety.
It's not true at all. This is an oversight by Nexon, not a feature. Playing there is equal to abusing any other glitch or oversight that Nexon has taken forever to address. It's not a feature; it's not meant to exist as it is. It's not a matter of what's fair or what's unfair, it's a matter of right and wrong. So yes, I would rather they take it away completely because it's an anomaly
Sign FOr Gallos Dungeon - Netto - 2010-12-10
xLeviathan Wrote:I'm missing the point on why they should change it, though. Obviously, there's not enough room -- so what? It seems selfish to want to take it away from the people that CAN train there because YOU want to do so, also. So instead of maybe providing a fix where everyone can do it, you'd rather take it away, period? If people KS there -- don't go. Pretty simple. You think they're broken anyway, so why would you?
So you pretty much say that this was intentional? Almost every monster in the game (including Duku and other SG/MY monsters) have been reduced in experience and/or have a boost in HP as well (will confirm after Maple downloads)l. You believe Nexon intended to keep Gallopera/Trucker this way? I think NOT! They've already fixed most mobs, so why is it that I feel like you will be butthurt if Nexon changes this TO MATCH THE NERFS OF OTHER MONSTERS
*Signs petition to nerf monsters*
Sign FOr Gallos Dungeon - CommanderJinn - 2010-12-10
xLeviathan Wrote:I'm missing the point on why they should change it, though. Obviously, there's not enough room -- so what? It seems selfish to want to take it away from the people that CAN train there because YOU want to do so, also. So instead of maybe providing a fix where everyone can do it, you'd rather take it away, period? If people KS there -- don't go. Pretty simple. You think they're broken anyway, so why would you?
This post:
Some Random Guy on Nexon Forums Wrote:Boo hoo. You're probably just another Q.Qing noob whose entire philosphy about the truckers, or any other
mob that gives off high EXP is "If I can't train here without problems, NO ONE WILL!". Here's what I think.
Stop complaining. Play the game. Or gtfo. The choice is yours. Nexon doesn't care that you're upset that
you can't train at these spots, So youre wasting your time. ALL of you are.
Not so elegant but true in it's entirety.
It's cause Gallos were never meant to exist in Big Bang, KMS didn't know about it, JMS never had it. And GMS is too lazy to go mod world tour areas that aren't there own (with the exception of singapore, but that was still extremely poorly done) I bet that when MSEA gets Big Bang, they'll get the gallos nerf. I think the main point is that it gives an unfair advantage to the people who find a map, and also defeats the entire point of Big Bang to begin with. EXPLORE OTHER CONTENT. Without gallos, you essentially have a dozen maps per level, that yield the same exp rate, but each has a different experience due to map efficiency, monster skills, and general aesthetic of the area. Multiply that by 19 channels and you essentially have a bunch of "mini-dungeons" to level on. I'm not one of those so-called "no-lifers" who spent hours at a time to gain 5%. I'm only lv 98. But even I think that gallos are so incredibly broken. Sure gallos were great before, but they have no place in this game now unless their balanced with the rest of the mobs.